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scorpiontank1 #1 Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:45 AM

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holy crap this tank suck , i dont have the top engine but i do have the top gun , and it sucks balls , gun handling , penetration , and even gold rounds are crap 

 

seriously why was this tank so hyped at 

 

what about kran vagn ? 



uglycousin #2 Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:47 AM

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Kranvagn is better. 

Erwin_Von_Braun #3 Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:09 AM

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View Postscorpiontank1, on 24 September 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:

holy crap this tank suck , i dont have the top engine but i do have the top gun , and it sucks balls , gun handling , penetration , and even gold rounds are crap

 

seriously why was this tank so hyped at

 

what about kran vagn ?

 

Not a clue - got bored with the Swedes very quickly.

I'm sure someone will come up with a 'statistical' anal ysis at some point tho.



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View Postscorpiontank1, on 24 September 2017 - 08:45 AM, said:

holy crap this tank suck , i dont have the top engine but i do have the top gun , and it sucks balls , gun handling , penetration , and even gold rounds are crap 

 

seriously why was this tank so hyped at 

 

what about kran vagn ? 

 

If you play stock is the emil 2 totall crap and can only play as support tank.

tajj7 #5 Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:17 AM

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View Postuglycousin, on 24 September 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

Kranvagn is better. 

 

Not by much. Very situational the Swedish heavies and I didn't find them fun. 

UrQuan #6 Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:19 AM

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Emil 2 is a specialist tank, meaning the tank decides how you must play it, not you. Go to locations you can hulldown & deny the enemy easy access to those locations. Make sure it's locations where they have a hard time getting sideshots in.

When enemy gets closer, fall back to next ridge/hulldown location. Use the gun-depression to maximize turret armor. Yes gun handling is bad, but with the great front turret armor it has, you can actually aim while shots pling off you (do keep an eye if any high pen tanks are around that can shoot you)

 

Play anywhere else & the tank is bad. That's the deal with specialist tanks. Want to have more freedom on where to go? Play a more generalist tank, IS-3 is a token example of it, as it can play a multitude of ehavy roles.

 

Specialist tanks shine when played in their natural environment, but are bad anywhere else.



Aikl #7 Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:23 AM

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How do you explain it best...?

 

 

On a more serious note, there are limits to how bad something with an arguably abuseable feature can be. Just like 183mm-armed TDs and even T54E1 that is trash except for the part where you spend 6,66s removing 1560HP from the battlefield. Turret armor and gun depression? Situational just means you can't expect it to perform consistently good on every map; unlike certain generalist tanks.


Edited by Aikl, 24 September 2017 - 09:24 AM.


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I found the Emil II to be very capable. As others said, its hulldown game is on point, if you can play around that, you are usually golden. The mobility is usually good enough to get to the places you need to be, but don´t press it too hard, with the slow turret traverse you can get outplayed if an enemy gets arouind you. If you find yourself in a less ideal situation, like a city fight, just remember the good old autoloader rules, be opportunistic and ready to fall back, but dont play peek a boom or push other heavies frontally, you are not made for that.

Regarding the gun, yeah, it can be quite trollish. It´s unreliable at range and also not exactly made to engage superheavies with. As a rule of thumb, let the first shot fully aim whenever possible, Emil II is pretty lousy at snap-shotting... though if you play it right, you probably won´t have too. Also try to avoid rushing in too hard to "clip out" an enemy unless you have one or even two shells spare; in a frantic battle the dispersion and turret traverse combo often results in some misses or bounces, and if your clip is empty but your enemy is not dead, you are usually screwed.

 

So, yeah, I wouldnt say it sucks. If you know your limitations and play around them, the Emil II is quite capable and can even be show stopper for your enemies on many of the maps... and on the others, you at least got good supporting potential. Just dont expect to carry in every environment.



scorpiontank1 #9 Posted 24 September 2017 - 12:08 PM

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Thanks a lot for info , indeed the issue is me not able to play it correctly but God damn the gun handling is so bad that you are guaranteed that 1 shell will miss from the mag (At LEAST 1 shot , mostly 2 shots ) , combined with bad pen and low DPM and low mobility and piss hull  armor kills any form of joy I could get in this tank 

 

 


Edited by scorpiontank1, 24 September 2017 - 12:09 PM.


UrQuan #10 Posted 24 September 2017 - 01:06 PM

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Assuming at least one shell will miss & another will bounce when firing on something with armor, is a pretty correct way to play any autoloader tbh. Don't expect all shots to pen, else you'll land in way too many nasty surprises with any autoloader tank.

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I find it okay but boring most of the time, would have liked it better with a single shot gun. that 38s clip reload coupled with long intraclip and bad gun handling is just zzzzzz.... 



Kartoshkaya #12 Posted 24 September 2017 - 02:37 PM

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Emil II is awesome, you just suck.

SlyMeerkat #13 Posted 24 September 2017 - 02:49 PM

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I have the Emil 2 researched but not purchased it yet but i did enjoy the Emil 1 so hoping its some what the same?

Shaade_Silentpaw #14 Posted 24 September 2017 - 03:22 PM

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Eh? Emil II is an absolute beast if you play it properly.

 

After 209 games, I have almost 65% winrate and 3000 WN8 in it - and that is waaaaayyy above my average, as you can see in my sig...



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View Postuglycousin, on 24 September 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

Kranvagn is better. 

 

Oddly enough THIS is apparently better tier for tier than Kran. WotNews stats wise anyways.

 

I got the Emil2 a week or so ago. havent touched it as i refuse to grind such a POS stock. the guns pure aids on tier 8. im sure as hell NEVER using it on this giant paper slug of a "tier 9" "heavy tank". it sucks major balls.



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View Posttajj7, on 24 September 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

 

Not by much. Very situational the Swedish heavies and I didn't find them fun. 

 

View PostSearch_Warrant, on 24 September 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

 

Oddly enough THIS is apparently better tier for tier than Kran. WotNews stats wise anyways.

 

I got the Emil2 a week or so ago. havent touched it as i refuse to grind such a POS stock. the guns pure aids on tier 8. im sure as hell NEVER using it on this giant paper slug of a "tier 9" "heavy tank". it sucks major balls.

 

Yes and yes.

 

Both are very situational. Can be fun in some battles, and very frustrating in others.

 

Funny enough, I hated the Emils but I kinda like the Kranvagn. Kinda. 



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View Postuglycousin, on 24 September 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

 

 

Yes and yes.

 

Both are very situational. Can be fun in some battles, and very frustrating in others.

 

Funny enough, I hated the Emils but I kinda like the Kranvagn. Kinda. 

 

Never understood why they got paper armor everywhere other than the front turret, T29 has better all around armor with a better (on flat ground) turret than Emil1, at tier 7!.

Edited by Search_Warrant, 24 September 2017 - 04:06 PM.


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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 24 September 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Never understood why they got paper armor everywhere other than the front turret, T29 has better all around armor with a better (on flat ground) turret than Emil1, at tier 7!.

 

Same reason Wg decided to give the tank impenetrable turret armour: they wanted to make the EMIL-series "zpeshul" regardless of historical background.

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View Postscorpiontank1, on 24 September 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:

holy crap this tank suck , i dont have the top engine but i do have the top gun , and it sucks balls , gun handling , penetration , and even gold rounds are crap 

 

seriously why was this tank so hyped at 

 

what about kran vagn ? 

 

The top engine makes a massive difference, I enjoyed it without the top engine but felt it was that slow that I had to chase the battle, but when I got the top engine wow I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more, I have just finished grinding for the Kranvagn.

pagandk #20 Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:43 AM

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Just like every other "specialist" tank it has to be played to its strengths in order to shine. And when you do that, it is a beast. OP turret armor and gun depression = seek out hulldown positions on the map and dominate from there.




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