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LordJohnOfHall #1 Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:17 PM

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There is something seriously wrong with the matchmakingsystem in this game.

It is so not working properly.

Every game is decided on forehand wich team that is supposed to win or not.

My recent about 1k games its 9/10 autoloss first game with my tank x2 or more game.

Cannot be coincident.

Cannot be coincident that 8/10 games my team winchance is below 50%

If it all was random then all would have even up efter a while, but no, never happens.

So the question is why wargaming have such need to be in power and control that each and every game one way or another is just predestinated.

Somethings are just not right and are not what they seem to be.

 

 



K_A #2 Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:20 PM

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I actually thought this was going to be a thread about the new template system and how it sucks, so I opened it expecting to be on the same side as OP. How naive I was.. Just another rant about rigged mm..:facepalm:

CoDiGGo #3 Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:27 PM

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In a random mm experienced players will decide games, less room for noobs. In russian random mm decide games, so noobs have room in those easy one sided games.

LordJohnOfHall #4 Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:42 PM

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View PostK_A, on 25 September 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

I actually thought this was going to be a thread about the new template system and how it sucks, so I opened it expecting to be on the same side as OP. How naive I was.. Just another rant about rigged mm..:facepalm:

 

Well, I think you are used to be wrong so this is no exception for you.

SandDanAdua #5 Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:51 PM

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So many players say this but people keep believing it's all "random".

I have one example. One streamer asked ppl to join in battle in tier 6 at the same time.

I did as well and then the game took 20 seconds to put me into a tier 8 battle at the bottom with designated losers.

I'm pretty sure the matchamking is rigged as it's also not statistically likely to have 10 good players in one team and 15 sub 48% ones in other team as often as it's happening at the moment.

WG just don't want to admit this because they are gonna lose all the bots playing the game if they actually make it fair and not rigged.



LordJohnOfHall #6 Posted 25 September 2017 - 06:29 PM

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View PostSandDanAdua, on 25 September 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

So many players say this but people keep believing it's all "random".

I have one example. One streamer asked ppl to join in battle in tier 6 at the same time.

I did as well and then the game took 20 seconds to put me into a tier 8 battle at the bottom with designated losers.

I'm pretty sure the matchamking is rigged as it's also not statistically likely to have 10 good players in one team and 15 sub 48% ones in other team as often as it's happening at the moment.

WG just don't want to admit this because they are gonna lose all the bots playing the game if they actually make it fair and not rigged.

 

 

Exactly! and not 15 sub 48%-games 10 times in a row-it is simply not likely.

You have no problem in public games soloplayer losing 10 games in a row-but its almost impossible to win 10 games in a row.

And I know the drill by now. Its always in the beginning of the game the enemy scores 0-1 and then the loss just come pouring of itself.



Kartoshkaya #7 Posted 25 September 2017 - 06:36 PM

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View PostLordJohnOfHall, on 25 September 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

Somethings are just not right and are not what they seem to be.

 

Maybe just maybe, you may be the problem.



Isharial #8 Posted 25 September 2017 - 06:40 PM

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View PostSandDanAdua, on 25 September 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

So many players say this but people keep believing it's all "random".

I have one example. One streamer asked ppl to join in battle in tier 6 at the same time.

I did as well and then the game took 20 seconds to put me into a tier 8 battle at the bottom with designated losers.

I'm pretty sure the matchamking is rigged as it's also not statistically likely to have 10 good players in one team and 15 sub 48% ones in other team as often as it's happening at the moment.

WG just don't want to admit this because they are gonna lose all the bots playing the game if they actually make it fair and not rigged.

 

it IS random... you base all your opinions on MM and WG because "a streamer told me"? do you have no mind of your own?

"I did as well and then the game took 20 seconds to put me into a tier 8 battle at the bottom with designated losers." -> streamer doesn't control MM, and MM doesn't stick you purposely with the "losers" as you call them... jesus :facepalm:


 

 

"as often as its happening"

show the last 2000 games you have and show that it is rigged in such a way? please don't say "I have replays off" because that would invalidate your entire statement. You obviously have some form of evidence to back up your claims right? please don't tell me you base everything on gut feeling......


 

you say all this, but I don't see you proving it at all... all I see is "its rigged, I know so its true" which, in the real world, is not considered as evidence, either that in a criminal trial, or anywhere else


 

View PostLordJohnOfHall, on 25 September 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

 

 

Exactly! and not 15 sub 48%-games 10 times in a row-it is simply not likely.

You have no problem in public games soloplayer losing 10 games in a row-but its almost impossible to win 10 games in a row.

And I know the drill by now. Its always in the beginning of the game the enemy scores 0-1 and then the loss just come pouring of itself.

 

 

you think that a system that puts 15 random players on 2 teams and then shoves them in a game will produce 50% winrate games every game? when the average winrate of players is 48%? seems to me that the system works as intended as its giving you what the winrate average is....


 

you can lose 10 games, you can win 10 games, but to win 10 games you have to put more effort in than to lose, thus when you do lose, you pay more attention to it

I have won many times 10 games in a row, but I remember the 10 losses far more...


 

everyone has that type of game session sometimes, they aren't rigging you personally.. so why make the claim that they are? :amazed:


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Alabamatick #9 Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:38 PM

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View PostK_A, on 25 September 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

I actually thought this was going to be a thread about the new template system and how it sucks, so I opened it expecting to be on the same side as OP. How naive I was.. Just another rant about rigged mm..:facepalm:

 

I admire your optimism :)

jabster #10 Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:53 PM

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View PostSandDanAdua, on 25 September 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

So many players say this but people keep believing it's all "random".

I have one example. One streamer asked ppl to join in battle in tier 6 at the same time.

I did as well and then the game took 20 seconds to put me into a tier 8 battle at the bottom with designated losers.

I'm pretty sure the matchamking is rigged as it's also not statistically likely to have 10 good players in one team and 15 sub 48% ones in other team as often as it's happening at the moment.

WG just don't want to admit this because they are gonna lose all the bots playing the game if they actually make it fair and not rigged.

 

So then how often does it happen and how often is it expected to happen. Now I'm sure you can answer this fairly quickly otherwise you'd look a bit silly by just claiming what you did.



Jigabachi #11 Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:00 PM

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View PostIsharial, on 25 September 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

it IS random...

Actually. No, that is not correct, either.

The only true answer you can give in this case: Nobody knows if the game is random or rigged, because nobody managed to come up with meaningful evidence for one of the two sides yet. But that doesn't mean that we can't disagree with all the deluded bobs sharing their brainfarts.

It's like with religion. Nobody knows if there is a god, but we don't even need to know it to disagree with the nonsense the believers spout.



Sirebellus #12 Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:33 PM

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I'd like to agree with the OP cos I've been on the losing side 8 out of 10 games so far today.....

Though for balance I have to say I was on the winning side for 9 of the last 10 games I played yesterday, but the Matchmaking system is definitely rigged today

K_A #13 Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:42 PM

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View PostSirebellus, on 25 September 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

I'd like to agree with the OP cos I've been on the losing side 8 out of 10 games so far today.....

Though for balance I have to say I was on the winning side for 9 of the last 10 games I played yesterday, but the Matchmaking system is definitely rigged today

 

So, yesterday you won 8 out of 10 because you were just so awesome and perfect in your games, but today when you lost 8 out of 10 it's definitely rigged? Seems legit!

Jigabachi #14 Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:49 PM

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View PostSirebellus, on 25 September 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

I'd like to agree with the OP cos I've been on the losing side 8 out of 10 games so far today.....
Though for balance I have to say I was on the winning side for 9 of the last 10 games I played yesterday, but the Matchmaking system is definitely rigged today

Erm... do you even understand what the term "rigged" means?



NUKLEAR_SLUG #15 Posted 25 September 2017 - 10:20 PM

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I'm on 70% winrate this weekend. Edited WG and your rigged game! 

 

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing. 


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SandDanAdua #16 Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:08 PM

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View Postjabster, on 25 September 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

 

So then how often does it happen and how often is it expected to happen. Now I'm sure you can answer this fairly quickly otherwise you'd look a bit silly by just claiming what you did.

 

Ok i'll check my last 200 replays just for you and tell you the number.

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View PostSandDanAdua, on 26 September 2017 - 12:08 AM, said:

 

Ok i'll check my last 200 replays just for you and tell you the number.

 

That's what you should have done before drawing conclusions.

jabster #18 Posted 26 September 2017 - 04:22 AM

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View PostSandDanAdua, on 25 September 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

 

Ok i'll check my last 200 replays just for you and tell you the number.

 

I'm looking forward to it as after all you have claimed it occurs too often.



Startrek_Fanboy #19 Posted 26 September 2017 - 06:07 AM

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I liked this game but those one sided or badly screwed battle balance system make me stop.

There is one thing more,when you have that forced to lose battle then you have really bad RNG too.

But really,i was liked that game.



vasilinhorulezz #20 Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:45 AM

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We need arty topics back!

I'm tired reading mm topics allday long.

WG plz!!!






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