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Enderman21 #1 Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:19 PM

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Worse HP.

Worse aim time.

Worse DPM.

Worse view range.

Significantly worse mobility.

 

For a center mounted turret and like 5 more shells? Really?

 

Why do you remove a tank like FV 215b when it actually has its own unique play style? This new S. Conqueror is just awful. Nothing special about it. It's just a worse T110E5.

 

I know FV 215b can't really compete with the new heavies, but it's still better than the S. Conqueror.



MrEdweird #2 Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:24 PM

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They won't leave it as it is, I'm pretty sure.

They're a bit too focused on making it balanced in terms of give and take in relation to what the FV215b was.

I was expecting more of a situation where both FV215b and SConq would be better than old FV215b.


Edited by MrEdweird, 25 September 2017 - 11:25 PM.


Grand_Moff_Tano #3 Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:25 PM

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The FV215b with the 120mm gun was a WG fake, so they likely removed it because of that reason.

Derethim #4 Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:25 PM

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I'm sad about it too, won't probably make it to the FV in time... :(

Balc0ra #5 Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:28 PM

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View PostEnderman21, on 25 September 2017 - 11:19 PM, said:

 

I know FV 215b can't really compete with the new heavies, but it's still better than the S. Conqueror.

 

Conq is highly situational, but can still dominate if in the right spot with support. FV only has the DPM, and will get rolled regardless. As it will get penned easy, even when side scraping or going hull down, as everyone knows about those two weak spots. Tho that won't make the Super Conq better either as such.

 

Tho they can't buff it to much either with that armor. Tho giving it a bit better gun handling and dpm would not hurt. Crap thing was that they just left the FV as is. And that's even worse. Not even and HD model to remove that stupid roof weak spot.


Edited by Balc0ra, 25 September 2017 - 11:30 PM.


Homer_J #6 Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:50 PM

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View PostEnderman21, on 25 September 2017 - 11:19 PM, said:

Worse HP.

Worse aim time.

Worse DPM.

Worse view range.

Significantly worse mobility.

 

In CT1.



K_A #7 Posted 26 September 2017 - 12:00 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 25 September 2017 - 10:50 PM, said:

 

In CT1.

 

It's a British tank so in all likelihood the good folks at WG will deem it just a tad too strong and nerf the alpha a bit for CT2.

MrEdweird #8 Posted 26 September 2017 - 12:10 AM

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View PostK_A, on 25 September 2017 - 11:00 PM, said:

 

It's a British tank so in all likelihood the good folks at WG will deem it just a tad too strong and nerf the alpha a bit for CT2.

 

Even though they were testing giving the 120mm guns 440 alpha *cough*

Coldspell #9 Posted 26 September 2017 - 02:12 AM

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View PostDerethim, on 25 September 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

I'm sad about it too, won't probably make it to the FV in time... :(

 

When is in time? I have like 200-300k free exp I can convert and I am only like 40k from the conqueror.

I am debating whether or not to just gold it up.



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View PostColdspell, on 26 September 2017 - 02:12 AM, said:

 

When is in time? I have like 200-300k free exp I can convert and I am only like 40k from the conqueror.

I am debating whether or not to just gold it up.

 

10-12th of October, maybe couple of days later.

Ceeb #11 Posted 26 September 2017 - 06:19 AM

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Well at least the FV is in my garage

K_A #12 Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:31 AM

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Yay got the FV yesterday:) Now make it HD pls coz it looks like crap.

SirDixie #13 Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:37 AM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 25 September 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

The FV215b with the 120mm gun was a WG fake, so they likely removed it because of that reason.

 

But there's still a bug WG thumbs up for the Chinese TD line:trollface:

Grand_Moff_Tano #14 Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:38 AM

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View PostSirDixie, on 26 September 2017 - 06:37 AM, said:

 

But there's still a bug WG thumbs up for the Chinese TD line:trollface:

 

Can't wait to see what the sekrit dokumints say about the Chinese Self-Propelled Artillery lol.

Schepel #15 Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:53 AM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 26 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

 

Can't wait to see what the sekrit dokumints say about the Chinese Self-Propelled Artillery lol.

 

Lost in nuclear trials, obviously.

tajj7 #16 Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:54 AM

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OP put your feedback here - http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/644426-new-tank-super-conqueror/

 

Hopefully with enough feedback WG will make some changes for the second test, I doubt they are checking the gameplay section for feeback on the current test. 



SlyMeerkat #17 Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:08 AM

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Im on the grind up to the FV 215b as i would like to get it before they replace it and get 2 for 1, currently on the Black Prince though so just seeing how far i get and may free xp straight to it at last minute i think

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View PostColdspell, on 26 September 2017 - 02:12 AM, said:

 

When is in time? I have like 200-300k free exp I can convert and I am only like 40k from the conqueror.

I am debating whether or not to just gold it up.

To get full Free XP you need (assuming you have all Caernarvon modules unlocked) around 25k for turret + 60k for gun + 210k for FV. Not sure about exact numbers but something around it.

So, free XP Conq research is around 300k Free XP from when it is unlocked. If you plan to play it than it is more (25k for tracks and 45k for engine).

 

As you are 40k from Conqueror my advice would be just to simply grind FV (if you are interested to grind it) instead of gold it.

Specially if you have XP boosters piled up. Just play with XP boosters up, Free XP Conqueror turret and top gun (to avoid stock pain) and than you can keep golding option for last day if you want and if you see you will not make it on time. With top gun Conqueror is quite fun tank to play. Armour is meh unless you can hide your hull but that gun is pure s.ex.

I have crew with BIA and with 400 alpha and 259 pen it have bellow 8,7sec reload, 0.3 accuracy and 1.7x sec aim time. Just awesome gun.

 

I had 68 2hr 100% XP boosters on stock that piled up over time when I started FV grind and played all time with them up. And in meanwhile got some back through this September mission.

Now on full researched Conqueror with 150k XP till FV215B. And as tank is really fun to play rest of grind should not be tedious at all.

 

 

 



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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 25 September 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

The FV215b with the 120mm gun was a WG fake, so they likely removed it because of that reason.

 

You do realize a chinease TD line has just been introduced to the game?

ewancfc #20 Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:28 PM

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People underestimate how useful actual armour can be, the fv is complete paper, the top speed on both tanks makes them slow regardless and the opportunities a centre mounted turret afford are significant, as well as the ability to side scrape without getting shafted.




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