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Levana777 #361 Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:35 PM

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View Postsomegras, on 06 October 2017 - 06:32 PM, said:

 

If only we lived in a socialist utopia. That is why we must start the revolution in WoT, so that other institutions based on the same system as WoT, this elitist structure, will follow after our success! Davaj, comrade!

 

You can laugh all you want and make fun, but its sad that a game mirrors the injustices of real life. Obviously you haven't experienced those things, if you would you wouldn't find it so funny.

somegras #362 Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:47 PM

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View PostLevana777, on 06 October 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

You can laugh all you want and make fun, but its sad that a game mirrors the injustices of real life. Obviously you haven't experienced those things, if you would you wouldn't find it so funny.

 

I might have, or haven't encountered this myself, but that is not relevant to me. If you pay attention I am just trying to take a piss at your idea of justice in a game like this. Most games are designed around effort and reward, the more time you put into it, the more rewards you get. WoT is especially like this because it is a F2P game, and a customer that pursues these higher rewards are willing to spend more time, and money, into this game. There are not many games that don't follow this structure, because otherwise games would not have any meaning to them. A key part of games is that it rewards you, and it makes you feel like you are being rewarded, either through achievements, gear and equipment, stats etc. The only games that don't have this system are sandbox games, and even those reward you for your effort put into it since you can create something amazing when you put effort into it, see Minecraft etc.

 

Real life in the end is different from games because of so many factors. But most importantly, it is not always clear what reward you get for the amount of effort you put into work/school/hobbies etc. whereas in games these are set values or goals most of the time.

 



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View Postsomegras, on 06 October 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

 

With 3 kids I don't think that is very realistic. Daycare isnt cheap and always available everywhere.

 

With 2 parents working + the goverment support you get for each kid there should be no problem at all.

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I still can't even begin to fathom why this guy would even want a tier 10 tank, he's gotten nowhere near tier 10 on the regular tech tree yet, he'd have no clue how to play it and what to do with it and would probably end up with 300 damage and 0.1 kills per game average. I mean that can't be fun.

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View Postsomegras, on 06 October 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

 

I might have, or haven't encountered this myself, but that is not relevant to me. If you pay attention I am just trying to take a piss at your idea of justice in a game like this. Most games are designed around effort and reward, the more time you put into it, the more rewards you get. WoT is especially like this because it is a F2P game, and a customer that pursues these higher rewards are willing to spend more time, and money, into this game. There are not many games that don't follow this structure, because otherwise games would not have any meaning to them. A key part of games is that it rewards you, and it makes you feel like you are being rewarded, either through achievements, gear and equipment, stats etc. The only games that don't have this system are sandbox games, and even those reward you for your effort put into it since you can create something amazing when you put effort into it, see Minecraft etc.

 

Real life in the end is different from games because of so many factors. But most importantly, it is not always clear what reward you get for the amount of effort you put into work/school/hobbies etc. whereas in games these are set values or goals most of the time.

 

 

Yeah, the values and goals which benefit a certain type of privileged player. One that is willing to spend money and most of all time. As a casual player you get nothing.

 

View Postbrumbarr, on 06 October 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

 

With 2 parents working + the goverment support you get for each kid there should be no problem at all.

 

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View PostK_A, on 06 October 2017 - 06:53 PM, said:

I still can't even begin to fathom why this guy would even want a tier 10 tank, he's gotten nowhere near tier 10 on the regular tech tree yet, he'd have no clue how to play it and what to do with it and would probably end up with 300 damage and 0.1 kills per game average. I mean that can't be fun.

 

Its not only about the tier 10 tank, its the whole system that rewards privileged players is just wrong.

 

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View PostLevana777, on 06 October 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

 

Its not only about the tier 10 tank, its the whole system that rewards privileged players is just wrong.

 

Hate to break it to you mate, but life rewards privileged people, usually. Now, the way I see it you have these options:
-complain about how underprivileged you are for your whole life and not have anything changed;
-get up and try to change the system so that people like you have a chance of getting something out of life;
-get up and play the rules by the system while putting some effort in in order to get better rewards from life.

 

So, this is life. WOT is basically the same: you've got two kids to maintain? Your wife doesn't work? You're poor? Well, thing is nobody cares. WG especially. And if you keep complaining about how unfair the game is without trying to improve... Well, man, sucks to be you. Can't say much more.



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View PostLevana777, on 06 October 2017 - 06:01 PM, said

 

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Edited .


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Getting back on topic: does anyone know what the other rewards should be? Bonds? Gold? Medkits?

somegras #369 Posted 06 October 2017 - 07:28 PM

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View PostLevana777, on 06 October 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Yeah, the values and goals which benefit a certain type of privileged player. One that is willing to spend money and most of all time. As a casual player you get nothing.

 

You get what you work for. Maybe it is a tech tree tank that you really want, maybe it is just the fun of the game. Even you will be able to get what you want, but that might take months, or years. As long as you put enough effort into it, you will achieve what you want in this game. This is certain, since this is how it works in WoT.


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View PostITALUX, on 06 October 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

Getting back on topic: does anyone know what the other rewards should be? Bonds? Gold? Medkits?

 

manual fire extinguishers

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View PostLevana777, on 06 October 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

 

 

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So wait a second.

First you complain about privilege, yet in your 'culture'  culture revolves around oppresing women and the males being priviliged.

Second of all you complain about not having time because you need to do jobs because you dont let your wife work.

 

I have never seen a bigger hypocryte, I am so done.


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View PostNOPANs_Bicycle, on 03 October 2017 - 09:45 AM, said:

 

it starts in november so probably no news until last week of october, if we're lucky

 

usually about event official info appears about 3 weeks before.

Levana777 #373 Posted 06 October 2017 - 08:07 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 06 October 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

So wait a second.

First you complain about privilege, yet in your 'culture'  culture revolves around oppresing women and the males being priviliged.

Second of all you complain about not having time because you need to do jobs because you dont let your wife work.

 

I have never seen a bigger hypocryte, I am so done.

 

Excuse me how exactly am i oppressing women? Wow what a statement to make. You're obviously completely uneducated and have no respect for other cultures.

 

View Postsomegras, on 06 October 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

 

You get what you work for. Maybe it is a tech tree tank that you really want, maybe it is just the fun of the game. Even you will be able to get what you want, but that might take months, or years. As long as you put enough effort into it, you will achieve what you want in this game. This is certain, since this is how it works in WoT.

 

Work for what exactly? To get something special? Nope, can't have anything. Grind that heavy you wanted? Get it and get shot to shreds by people spamming premium ammo, running premium account and prem tanks, not to mention the biggest [edited]ever, the P2W supercrews. Why work hard and grind your crew, when you can just buy OP crews! Best part? THEY EVEN TRAIN FASTER. Mucho fair yes.



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View PostLevana777, on 06 October 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Work for what exactly? To get something special? Nope, can't have anything. Grind that heavy you wanted? Get it and get shot to shreds by people spamming premium ammo, running premium account and prem tanks, not to mention the biggest [edited]ever, the P2W supercrews. Why work hard and grind your crew, when you can just buy OP crews! Best part? THEY EVEN TRAIN FASTER. Mucho fair yes.

 

I tried to be nice and explain, but you are beyond saving I guess. Sometimes I wonder why I still have faith in people.

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View PostLevana777, on 06 October 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

 

Excuse me how exactly am i oppressing women? Wow what a statement to make. You're obviously completely uneducated and have no respect for other cultures.

 

 

By not letting them work? And I am sure your culture has other special treatment for them aswell.

Sure, very uneducated, I am only in by 3rd bachelor year of  aplied physics engineering at university.

If those cultures have fucked up values, yeah, I dont respect them.



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 05 October 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

 

WG say RU will have no reward tanks due to too much "fixing". Much whine on RU.

WG say not selling Mutant again. WG sell Mutant again. It's not as if they do not change their mind.

WG say criteria for EU may be different from RU. No word yet as to whether EU will or will not get a reward tank.

 

But if no reward tank on EU expect participation to be lower than previously.

 

I think WG says that, because dont wanna get storm so really from angry players on EU server :D we will not get tank too, I guess.

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View PostOber__, on 06 October 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

 

I think WG says that, because dont wanna get storm so really from angry players on EU server :D we will not get tank too, I guess.

 

yeah, pretty sure we wotn get a tank, imagine the shitstorm ffrom RU if they dont get a tank and EU does.

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View Postbrumbarr, on 06 October 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

 

yeah, pretty sure we wotn get a tank, imagine the shitstorm ffrom RU if they dont get a tank and EU does.

 

Yeah, not gonna happen. Sure, in theory the offices are separated, but competition and whining (mostly whining) about who gets the best prices and best missions and best rewards and best tanks has and always will be a part of the big issue WG has to deal with.

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View Postbrumbarr, on 06 October 2017 - 09:23 PM, said:

 

yeah, pretty sure we wotn get a tank, imagine the shitstorm ffrom RU if they dont get a tank and EU does.

 

I think WG now don't know what to do. They are in crossfire between EU and RU server players. EU server brings the best profit $, on the other hands, on the RU server there are much more players. Wahahha... :D so basically about event they inform 3 weeks before it, so if it will be on the end on the november, WG still has let's say about 3 weeks to make the right decission. So I guess after 2 weeks should be some leaked info.

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View PostOber__, on 06 October 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

 

I think WG now don't know what to do. They are in crossfire between EU and RU server players. EU server brings the best profit $, on the other hands, on the RU server there are much more players. Wahahha... :D so basically about event they inform 3 weeks before it, so if it will be on the end on the november, WG still has let's say about 3 weeks to make the right decission. So I guess after 2 weeks should be some leaked info.

 

I mean, they could just... give everyone a tank? Or is that too obvious for WG?




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