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How similar are the T-54 and Obj. 140?


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thestaggy #1 Posted 26 September 2017 - 06:40 PM

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I'm about 50k XP in to the Obj. 140 (fully-upgraded T-54) but I simply cannot do a damn thing in the T-54. I'm guessing it is the lack of gun depression that is murdering me as I just cannot get my gun in to action. My good games tend to be games where I've racked up 3 - 5k spotting damage while dealing 1k damage of my own. May as well be playing the Lwt.

 

While neither tank has a good win rate, I'm significantly better in the Centurion 7/1 as I'm currently sitting on two MOEs and I have a handful of Ace Tankers in it while in the T-54 I'm just botting around.

 

If I look at the T-44 and Centurion I, it was again a case of me getting two MOEs in the Centurion while botting in the T-44, so there is a definite playstyle thing here.

 

With all that in mind, is the Obj. 140 a continuation of the T-44 and T-54 playstyle? If so, I'm considering just quitting the line as I'm not too pumped on investing in another tier X I suck in. My only other tier X is the IS-7 and that is another trainwreck of a tank in my hands. At least I know I can make the Action X work as I played it extensively over the weekend on the Test Server and if I can make the Cent 1 and 7/1 work on Live I'm sure I can get my head around the Action X on Live.


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Obsessive_Compulsive #2 Posted 26 September 2017 - 06:53 PM

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View Postthestaggy, on 26 September 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

I'm about 50k XP in to the Obj. 140 (fully-upgraded T-54) but I simply cannot do a damn thing in the T-54. I'm guessing it is the lack of gun depression that is murdering me as I just cannot get my gun in to action. My good games tend to be games where I've racked up 3 - 5k spotting damage while dealing 1k damage of my own. May as well be playing the Lwt.

 

While neither tank has a good win rate, I'm significantly better in the Centurion 7/1 as I'm currently sitting on two MOEs and I have a handful of Ace Tankers in it while in the T-54 I'm just botting around.

 

If I look at the T-44 and Centurion I, it was again a case of me getting two MOEs in the Centurion while botting in the T-44, so there is a definite playstyle thing here.

 

With all that in mind, is the Obj. 140 a continuation of the T-44 and T-54 playstyle? If so, I'm considering just quitting the line as I'm not too pumped on investing in another tier X I suck in. My only other tier X is the IS-7 and that is another trainwreck of a tank in my hands. At least I know I can make the Action X work as I played it extensively over the weekend on the Test Server and if I can make the Cent 1 and 7/1 work on Live I'm sure I can get my head around the Action X on Live.

 

I think t54  has better protection tier 4 tier. it also has better alpha./ 140 plays like an epileptic t54 more ponderous....

Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:19 PM

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I am still in the process of learning the ropes in my T-54. It's hard to play especially if you have bots as teammates. Was at 48% for quite a bit and scratched 50% today but fell back 1% again... :( but i'm not going to give up :izmena:

 

I have also unlocked the Obj. 140 but i'm hesitating on buying it. Probably trying something else after the next patch.



ExclamationMark #4 Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:21 PM

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Obj 140 is better, but can't bully nearly as much as the T54 can. T54 in -2mm can be utterly brutal.

IncandescentGerbil #5 Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:57 PM

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I did way better in my t54, and had more fun. Not what you want to hear when grinding, I know. I'm sure better players than me would tell you something different though.

hajoittaja #6 Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:15 AM

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Maybe you just have the same curse as I do with the russian med line. T-44 2 marks but 49% WR. T-54 2 marks (getting close to 3rd), but still bot-like 47% WR. I dont know how else to explain such terrible stats...feels like every time I play them my team just melts away regardless what I do. I should probably try some other line....actually maybe that's what WG wants me to do.

Noo_Noo #7 Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:38 AM

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I have just sold my T54 as I have unlocked both the T62a and Obj140. Saving the credits now to buy one of them. Not sure which to be honest. 

I had a similar experience with the T54. Had some monster games but couldn't turn them into wins. Even when I was nearing the end of the grind my results weren't too bad but with the number of games played I couldn't really improve my WR significantly in it. 


sadly I think the only real way to play the T54 is borderline full HEAT with the High DPM gun. I did OKish with the other more accurate higher pen gun but your results do suffer with the lower DPM in it.

 

Despite the supposed playstyle I couldn't brawl in it. Firstly i'm not very good at it but secondly I dont think the armour is all that much. Turret works but your hull cant. It can side scrape depending on what is in front of you though. A lot of the time it cant. My best games happened when I played aggressively without over extending, basically in that second line and then finding that flanking opportunity and taking it.  



thestaggy #8 Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:39 AM

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View Posthajoittaja, on 27 September 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

Maybe you just have the same curse as I do with the russian med line. T-44 2 marks but 49% WR. T-54 2 marks (getting close to 3rd), but still bot-like 47% WR. I dont know how else to explain such terrible stats...feels like every time I play them my team just melts away regardless what I do. I should probably try some other line....actually maybe that's what WG wants me to do.

 

To be fair though, I personally suck in Russian meds. You're doing a helluva lot better than me in them.

 

What you describe though sounds like my Centurion 7/1. Float around 83 - 86% in terms of MOE but no wins for me. 



IncandescentGerbil #9 Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:27 AM

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I have only ever played the game solo. I have no doubt the 140 is a beast when in a platoon, but it has taken me an age to get it to even a 50% WR. For me, whilst it is a lot of fun (more so than the 62a) the relatively low alpha is a big problem at tier 10. The DPM is amazing on paper, but I hardly ever get to use it. I actually wonder if a lot of its reputation was built in less power-creepy times, but I am sure better players have a different opinion.

Tigerfish_Torpedo #10 Posted 27 September 2017 - 02:48 PM

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I rather enjoyed the T54, though my win rate is far from perfect (47-48% I'd guess without checking). That said, I'm struggling to get to grips with the Obj 140. Usually when I get killed by a skilled 140 driver, they seem impregnable, yet when I'm in it, I die far too easily (maybe have a 42% win rate, without checking). Whilst I realise it's my fault, as I don't yet understand it properly, I vastly preferred the T54 in play style. Further to that, I actually prefer the T54-Mod1 to the base 54 following the recent buff.

Ilknur_Ibryam #11 Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:30 PM

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I have the same feeling with the BC. It took me a lot to learn, but since I got the t9 BC I fell in love with that machine. Anyway. Cant freaking win in it, although I do more than fine in it, according to my personal skill level. The grind on it never felt bad. Saving money for the t10 batchat.

I am about to unlock t54 too and I was wondering which tank would suit me better 140 or t62a. I have never noticed 140 to be an influential tank, but when I see t62a it puts respect in everybody. Like nobody wants to engage it and people change flanks.

anonym_YNch2j0j5oJ9 #12 Posted 27 September 2017 - 06:27 PM

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If u cant play t54 then u shouldnt get tier10 russian meds imo

Enforcer1975 #13 Posted 27 September 2017 - 06:37 PM

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View PostPress2ForSkill, on 27 September 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

If u cant play t54 then u shouldnt get tier10 russian meds imo

 

A lot of players can't play anything....not even arty. What should they play?




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