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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:08 PM

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FV4202 – armor reverted to 9.20 values. Statistics have shown that the tank was OP and now it was decided to test the tank without the changes. Tests will show which version will land on the second CT.

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  • Lowered engine power from 650 to 510 HP
  • Power-to-weight ratio fell from 15,63 to 12,26 HP/t
  • Armor decreased:
    • Front hull armor from 76.2 to 50.8 mm
    • Front turret armor from 240 to 170 mm

 

 

Source: https://thearmoredpa...-20-1-new-info/

 

HA u thought they was actually going to buff that thing? its british! of course we wasent getting a buff! ITS BRITISH!


Edited by Search_Warrant, 27 September 2017 - 11:10 PM.


laulaur #2 Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:26 PM

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Perfectly balanced Primo Victoria from live server (9.20) vs ''crazy op, pls nerf'' FV4202 from test server (9.20.1)

 

 

I would tell you what i think about WG and the monkeys from the 'vehicle balance' team, but that would bring me another warning point.....



upsetti_spaghetti #3 Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:27 PM

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Yeah turret was to strong, but butchering the speed even more? Do they test the tanks only going downhill?

Balc0ra #4 Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:41 PM

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They did not say they are not buffing it anymore. They are reverting it to compare it to the buffed stats on CT. Then consider what buffs will go on live.  Tho I agree that the turret buffs would make it OP. It still needs more turret armor vs live. And it still needs a mobility buff. If not they really need to buff that 20 pdr.



Dexatroph #5 Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:52 PM

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The version in the common test was without the hull armor buff already and the tank looked well balanced. The gun handling is just as bad as the gun from the Primo , but the Primo has much better turret armor what compensate for the bad gun handling so you can aim for some longer. So why the turret armor needs to be reverted again?

 

The engine power increase from 510 hp to 650 hp looked a way too much. 620 hp might sound better. They would have to buff the gun handling when they dont want buff the turret armor to the same level as the Primo Victora.

 

But I don't understand why they just revert all changes and test them again? Don't they have enough stats from the live server yet?


Edited by Dexatroph, 27 September 2017 - 11:55 PM.


laulaur #6 Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:59 PM

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View PostDexatroph, on 27 September 2017 - 10:52 PM, said:

But I don't understand why they just revert all changes and test them again? Don't they have enough stats from the live server yet?

 

Good question... 



Userext #7 Posted 28 September 2017 - 12:01 AM

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I don't see how it'd be op if it had such high armour value. But i didn't test it in CT so what do I know

They definetly didn't need to revert stats though... maybe fake news?

 

Correction from google translate

"we roll back the tower to 9.20. As the statistics showed, the premium Briton showed too high combat effectiveness on the overall test, and we decided to test its updated version without improving the booking. We will experiment and decide how to release it for the second general test."

 

So as you may understand they are only rolling its armour back to 9.20 value which even though I didn't test it, the turret buff was badly needed so that's still crap.


 

GaryThomasBolton #8 Posted 28 September 2017 - 12:40 AM

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View PostDexatroph, on 27 September 2017 - 10:52 PM, said:

The version in the common test was without the hull armor buff already and the tank looked well balanced. The gun handling is just as bad as the gun from the Primo , but the Primo has much better turret armor what compensate for the bad gun handling so you can aim for some longer. So why the turret armor needs to be reverted again?

 

The engine power increase from 510 hp to 650 hp looked a way too much. 620 hp might sound better. They would have to buff the gun handling when they dont want buff the turret armor to the same level as the Primo Victora.

 

But I don't understand why they just revert all changes and test them again? Don't they have enough stats from the live server yet?

 

I don't agree the 650 engine buff was too much. I use the FV4202 all the time, 99% of the time - it's the tank I play with mostly. Tried it on the test server and really, I just couldn't tell that much difference with mobility after the engine buff. Going uphill you could most on speed, but driving on the flat seemed very unnoticeable the difference. It still also felt sluggish when turning the tank, if anything I thought that still should have been improved with it. So I really don't get this reverting the engine buff at all.

 

And this power to weight ratio changing with the 550 engine put back, will that make it worse or better than before the buffs took place. I don't really understand that one, what difference changing that will make?


Edited by GaryThomasBolton, 28 September 2017 - 12:42 AM.


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Userext #10 Posted 28 September 2017 - 12:49 AM

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I'm still trying ot understand how 4202's buffed turret would be too strong. It's CT for fun sake. No one actively tries to play there. I hope they won't mess with the turret buff any further

Coldspell #11 Posted 28 September 2017 - 01:33 AM

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They need to keep it worse then the Primo so they can sell more Primo's in the Christmas calendar.

 



ares354 #12 Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:29 AM

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I see, for WG its too [edited]HARD to buff what is bad about this MT, GUN and make his ammo cheaper. 

600 HP engine with his softs stats on track, and good gun buff will make this MT good. Plus, ammo cost around 250 credtis per shoot, done. 

Long_Range_Sniper #13 Posted 28 September 2017 - 07:27 AM

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I'd be interested in how WG actually test armour in CT. How do they have enough data from standard ammo?



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The hull armour nerf is pointless since they didn't give it the 76mm upper plate in the first place

Timewarp76 #15 Posted 28 September 2017 - 07:51 AM

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Typical WG, tell us British tanks are getting a buff so people start grinding the lines again. Once enough people have grinded for awhile they then change their mind so everyone's time is wasted. good job WG.

adameitas #16 Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:09 AM

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well i guess instead of that they gonna buff is-3 turret or so since that tank needs buff more..

tajj7 #17 Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:14 AM

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So Defender was fine but a medium tank with less DPM than it and 230 alpha is suddenly OP, good joke WG. 

 

FV4202 turret is no better than the Primo Victoria turret or the buffed Cent 1 turret......... 

 

It's honestly the most stupid thing they have probably done. 


Edited by tajj7, 28 September 2017 - 08:15 AM.


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Comedy gold, WG. 

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Timewarp76 #19 Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:26 AM

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Primo Victoria with 254mm of armor no problem at all, you paid for it, so you deserve to win. FV4202 proposed 240mm of armor.....oops customers you didn't pay real money for it so NO you don't deserve to win.



shishx_the_animal #20 Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:30 AM

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I really want to smoke what they're having in the balance department...




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