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Liviguy #1 Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:43 AM

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Another bane of the conventional tanker. It’s a tad irksome when some alien looking freak show of a contraption appears out of nowhere and pumps numerous shells into you before disappearing into the hole it crawled out of, all before you can turn your turret in its general direction. I think that the dispersion rate for each successive shot should increase. The amount of damage they can deal in a short period of time is excessive.


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Homer_J #2 Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:22 AM

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View PostLiviguy, on 30 September 2017 - 04:43 AM, said:

Another bane of the German fanboy.

FTFY

 

How to deal with autoloaders.

 

1. Look at the enemy team list during the 30 second countdown.

2. Don't trundle off alone when there are autoloaders on the other team.

3. Catch them when they are reloading.



Liviguy #3 Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:42 AM

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Ah I take it you were one of those crying when WG threatened to nerf the gun on the batchat. You think it’s fair that they can do so much damage in a few seconds.

Homer_J #4 Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:55 AM

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View PostLiviguy, on 30 September 2017 - 05:42 AM, said:

Ah I take it you were one of those crying when WG threatened to nerf the gun on the batchat. 

 

Nope, I would have preferred the 6 shot magazine with less alpha, most of my games in the Batchat were played before they switched it to tier X.

 

Yes it's fair.  If you think it isn't then I suggest you branch out a little and play a nation which has autoloaders, then come back and tell us they aren't at all frustrating to play.

 

It might be interesting for you to know I currently have only the one a few autoloaders in my garage,  which I never play but I don't like selling tier X tanks.

 

Batchat 25t

[edit] I forgot that tier 6 Swedish thing is also an autoloader.  I don't sell premium tanks either.

[edit2] Also forgot those two useless tier X French TDs.

[edit3] And the AMX50b

 

But still, none I actually play.  Heck I can't even remember which ones I've got.


Edited by Homer_J, 30 September 2017 - 06:09 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #5 Posted 30 September 2017 - 06:06 AM

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If you get caught out alone you deserve to get clipped.

PointZero #6 Posted 30 September 2017 - 06:35 AM

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11 432 battles and 19 tanks researched, actually 6 of them are premium tanks so make that 13... I don't even. 

View PostLiviguy, on 30 September 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

appears out of nowhere and pumps numerous shells into you before disappearing into the hole it crawled out of, all before you can turn your turret in its general direction. I think that the dispersion rate for each successive shot should increase.

This is the ideal scenario for an autoloader, you've already played into his hand by either being a solo hero or failing to pay attention to the map and reacting to the huge gap in your flank. If the autoloader fires the next shot faster than what its aimtime is then this is exactly what happens, that's why most of them like to get up close and personal.

 

I suggest you get one of the OP autoloaders - get rekt and use the knowledge on how you got rekt to fight against them.



ZlatanArKung #7 Posted 30 September 2017 - 08:17 AM

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After playing full autoloader TB I can say that autoloader are very op.
Just imagine playing 7 Lorraine 40t against 7 Defender/IS-3

Jigabachi #8 Posted 30 September 2017 - 08:24 AM

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Yes, many of the autoloaders are gamebreaking. They completely change the pacing of the game and there simply are too many of them.

We already had this numerous times. Use the search-function.

Nishi_Kinuyo #9 Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:15 AM

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Whine about autoloaders being OP?

Chi-Ri says hi.

Spoiler

 



Liviguy #10 Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:18 AM

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View PostPointZero, on 30 September 2017 - 06:35 AM, said:

11 432 battles and 19 tanks researched, actually 6 of them are premium tanks so make that 13... I don't even. 

This is the ideal scenario for an autoloader, you've already played into his hand by either being a solo hero or failing to pay attention to the map and reacting to the huge gap in your flank. If the autoloader fires the next shot faster than what its aimtime is then this is exactly what happens, that's why most of them like to get up close and personal.

 

I suggest you get one of the OP autoloaders - get rekt and use the knowledge on how you got rekt to fight against them.

What does it matter how many tanks I’ve played or researched?

My suggestion was to make the dispersion rate increase with each successive shot thus making it harder for autoloaders to rapid fire 4 or 5 shots into a tank within seconds. 



Enforcer1975 #11 Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:24 AM

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Well OPs complain is valid. As Jigabachi wrote there are just too many and every 40ish % bob can ruin your game by yoloing into you and clipping you for most of your hitpoints even if he loses his tank like a one clip wonder and you don't even have to be in the wrong position because this kind of player picks a tank in a group, attempts to drive circles around it and clicks away. Being able to do that is more than enough for players like that.

Too many break the game like too many arties do for some special players or what i have been observing recently half of both teams are TDs which turns the game into a campfest. 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 30 September 2017 - 11:26 AM.


laulaur #12 Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:37 AM

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View PostLiviguy, on 30 September 2017 - 10:18 AM, said:

What does it matter how many tanks I’ve played or researched?

My suggestion was to make the dispersion rate increase with each successive shot thus making it harder for autoloaders to rapid fire 4 or 5 shots into a tank within seconds. 

 

It matters because you have not experienced playing yourself autoloader tanks.

How can you give advice about something you do not know?

Is like i would give advices to Tiger Woods on how to play golf, and i have seen a golf course only on tv.....



Liviguy #13 Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:47 AM

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View Postlaulaur, on 30 September 2017 - 11:37 AM, said:

 

It matters because you have not experienced playing yourself autoloader tanks.

How can you give advice about something you do not know?

Is like i would give advices to Tiger Woods on how to play golf, and i have seen a golf course only on tv.....

I’ve had experience of these freaks pumping out multilple shots within seconds. 



PointZero #14 Posted 30 September 2017 - 12:45 PM

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View PostLiviguy, on 30 September 2017 - 01:18 PM, said:

What does it matter how many tanks I’ve played or researched?

 

11 426 / 11432 battles in German tanks, I think I see where this if coming from. The point being that you have barely touched any of the variety this game has to offer apart from the bare minumum amount of tanks that let you research & play German heavy tanks and yet you seem to know perfectly how other tanks & lines should be changed.

 

Here's a Tiger I that won't get bullied by all those nasty autoloaders


Edited by PointZero, 30 September 2017 - 01:07 PM.


Jigabachi #15 Posted 30 September 2017 - 01:20 PM

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View PostLiviguy, on 30 September 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

I’ve had experience of these freaks pumping out multilple shots within seconds. 

I'm not really a fan of the "You have to play it before you can judge it!"-argument, but in your case it's valid. 

You are, once again, talking about things you have no idea about.



Rati_Festa #16 Posted 30 September 2017 - 02:22 PM

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Op is right imo, far to easy for one clip hero to yolo. The dispersion idea is a good on as well, they are game breaking and more irratating than arty. The batchat vs t10 lights in the current meta is a gross mismatch as they are both looking for scouting spots at start of the matches. 

CrySpy #17 Posted 30 September 2017 - 03:15 PM

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Boohoohoo! I was in the middle of an open field in my big slow heavy tank and an autoloader clipped me!! :'(



Rati_Festa #18 Posted 30 September 2017 - 03:18 PM

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Or behind a bush spotting and some bot in a batchat yolos over clips me and then dies by my team mates? See the difference?

RamRaid90 #19 Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:01 PM

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Yup the TVP T50/51 which I sold after over 300 battles of attempting to make it work is so gamebreaking...I wonder why it is that you rarely see them anymore?

 

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ExclamationMark #20 Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:08 PM

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How to deal with autoloaders:

 

- don't play badly.

- play better

- try not to play poorly

- be a better player

 

You're welcome.






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