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avr7002 #1 Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:59 AM

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When will be WoT fix Strv103 ridiculous armour? It is just impenetrable joke, in already ridiculous computer game WoT. Just watch replay. Normal ammo, 120 mm gun, E5 hits this ugly joke 8 times in row, but only 1 pen. This ugly joke had no problems to deal with moving, hull down E5. And it is not first time. I had tried with different big guns, on different areas, with different ammo (big calibre HE deals low dmg to Strv103). Fix it ASAP.  Or leave it, as it is. I anyway dont take WoT seriously already long time. Meet Strv? Just finish battle fast and hope for next better battle. WoT has now on ladder huge, but OP, WT E100, then smaller, but just as OP Grille, now even smaller, OP, and impenetrable Strv103. What will be next TD? Invisible? Personally, I stopped buying or grinding new tanks. Even, if they are invisible. I have already too many tanks to play with, including almost all tier 10 tanks.

 

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

 


Edited by avr7002, 02 October 2017 - 08:21 AM.


Mimos_A #2 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

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A 120mm gun doesn't overmatch its frontal armour. So you have to either hit the cupola or the side armour. Don't blame the game for not knowing where to shoot. If you fire HE at it, make sure you don't fire into the fence on the front. It's very far from impenetrable.

 

If you can't deal with it that way, shoot its tracks and flank it. Just don't sit there trying to trade with a gun with great rate of fire and pen...


Edited by Mimos_A, 02 October 2017 - 08:12 AM.


Lentomies1 #3 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

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Aim at the side armor. Its 30mm thick and you will overmatch it with 91mm+ guns EVERYSINGLE time. Even when strv is aiming you, you can still shoot the side even tho it looks impossible to hit. Also, it has a cupola.

Dava_117 #4 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:13 AM

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Sure you will bounce. STRV armor is 40mm thick, so 120mm will just autobounce. Plus the anti HEAT sheield also works on HE. You have 4 option to deal with it.

1) use higher caliber gun. 122mm already autopen it (except in the two 50mm area that looks like a grid)

2) if it has the high ground aim to lower plate

3) if you have the higher ground aim to commander cupola

4) track it or flank it



HugSeal #5 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:23 AM

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May I suggest learning the very basics of game mechanics?

brumbarr #6 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:24 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 02 October 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

Sure you will bounce. STRV armor is 40mm thick, so 120mm will just autobounce. Plus the anti HEAT sheield also works on HE. You have 4 option to deal with it.

1) use higher caliber gun. 122mm already autopen it (except in the two 50mm area that looks like a grid)

2) if it has the high ground aim to lower plate

3) if you have the higher ground aim to commander cupola

4) track it or flank it

5) shoot heat at the lowerr plate or middle of the tank, or the strip above and below the gun.

 



Mike_Mckay #7 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:27 AM

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As its so "wedgy" I'm still waiting to see a replay where someone just drives over one :)

Dr_ownape #8 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:34 AM

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View PostMike_Mckay, on 02 October 2017 - 07:27 AM, said:

As its so "wedgy" I'm still waiting to see a replay where someone just drives over one :)

 

under the rear whilst in the same team seems to be deriguour

Uebergewicht #9 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:41 AM

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Rule of thumb: 

 

- if your gun is 120mm or below, don´t bother engaging the STRV frontally. You can only try to snipe its tiny cupola or maybe spam HE, which is not worth it. Wait for an ally to distract it or go elsewehre. However the tank is an autopen in pretty much any other situations - even the tiniest bit of side armor can be overmatched at super sharp angles.

 

- if your gun is larger than 120mm, the tier 9 STRV is basically an autopen, even frontally. The tier 10 STRV you can shoot in the center above or below the gun or into the lower plate.



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View PostHugSeal, on 02 October 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

May I suggest learning the very basics of game mechanics?

 

No.

avr7002 #11 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:46 AM

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Strv103 weak spots are microscopical. In high tier battle you have to shoot very fast. Near impossible to hit this microscopical commander cupola, LFP or part of sides. I tried, but missed. Flanking TD in this situation? Is it sarcasm?



Mimos_A #12 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:58 AM

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View Postavr7002, on 02 October 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:

Strv103 weak spots are microscopical. In high tier battle you have to shoot very fast. Near impossible to hit this microscopical commander cupola, LFP or part of sides. I tried, but missed. Flanking TD in this situation? Is it sarcasm?

 

I watched your replay. To be honest, the problem is not the STRV. He repeatedly gave you the side of his tank to overmatch and you didn't shoot it... You could have easily bagged the guy by just shooting him in the side every time he wiggled. Also, the 103B wasn't your only problem, be more aware of your surroundings and don't tunnelvision so hard, you just let that 907 shoot you for free for no reason...

 

You put yourself in a bad position for the situation and didn't take the shots you had. You got punished for it, these things happen, learn from it and move on.


Edited by Mimos_A, 02 October 2017 - 09:01 AM.


Aikl #13 Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:03 AM

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View PostMimos_A, on 02 October 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

 

I watched your replay. To be honest, the problem is not the STRV. He repeatedly gave you the side of his tank to overmatch and you didn't shoot it... You could have easily bagged the guy by just shooting him in the side every time he wiggled. Also, the 103B wasn't your only problem, be more aware of your surroundings and don't tunnelvision so hard, you just let that 907 shoot you for free for no reason...

 

You put yourself in a bad position for the situation and didn't take the shots you had. You got punished for it, these things happen, learn from it and move on.

 

Okay, what should we do about gold ammo spam then?!??!?

 

(Simply applying the level of logic used by so many forum posters of OP's calibre. : - ) )



tajj7 #14 Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:19 AM

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The Strvs are just a silly concept all round to be honest, virtually immune frontally to 60% of the guns they face, auto-aim pens pretty much to the rest, broken levels of camo and every single focker camps in the back with them uselessly. When you are like bottom tier and you have one of these things on your team, you are basically down a top tier tank because they won't do anything. 

 

All round they are just an annoying addition to the game. 



Mike_Mckay #15 Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:23 AM

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View PostDrownape, on 02 October 2017 - 07:34 AM, said:

 

under the rear whilst in the same team seems to be deriguour

 

Yeah but driving up the front of one then just "parking" till it dies would be funnier


I landed on top of a tier 8 waffle once when trying to get the death from above badge on console and almost pissed myself laughing while it was dying, then cursed when I realised none of my wheels were touching anything and I was stuck for the rest of the game lol

uglycousin #16 Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:26 AM

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View PostMike_Mckay, on 02 October 2017 - 10:27 AM, said:

As its so "wedgy" I'm still waiting to see a replay where someone just drives over one :)

 

Shishx had a video on youtube where he and Daki tried just that. I even think they managed to pull it off. Cannot find the video tho'. :(

Mike_Mckay #17 Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:28 AM

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View Postuglycousin, on 02 October 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

 

Shishx had a video on youtube where he and Daki tried just that. I even think they managed to pull it off. Cannot find the video tho'. :(

 

If you do could you PM the link?


I figured someone somewhere must have done it by now lol


Every time I've tried I either fell off or got killed by the DPM whilst trying

 



uglycousin #18 Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:35 AM

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View PostMike_Mckay, on 02 October 2017 - 11:28 AM, said:

 

If you do could you PM the link?

 

 

Will do.

 

Here it is:

 


Edited by uglycousin, 02 October 2017 - 09:50 AM.


HundeWurst #19 Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:26 AM

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Is the armor not penetratable as you claim? No

Is the armor stupid? Yes

 

And why? Because the armor is not about penetration values but overmatching and the use of HEAT rounds. If you have neither of these two luxuries you are now left with trying to snipe a tiny cupola most on long range. Thats fun, oh wait it isnt.

 

What is funny though that a high performance gun such as what the Conqueror has will get outperformed by the stock IS3 gun because that gun has 2 mm more calibre. But oh well. Its all stupid in the end. Its not like the swedish TDs added anything good to the game. New yes but in this case new does not mean good.



tumppi776 #20 Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:09 AM

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I find the camo rating more stupid than the armor.

 

Fire a couple HE with 120mm gun and he'll quickly find something else to do. But mostly you can't see it firing direcly at you in the open - makes it kind of hard to shoot it.

 

Its a badly designed min max tank that needs some tweaking.


Edited by tumppi776, 02 October 2017 - 11:10 AM.





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