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Derethim #21 Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:16 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 02 October 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

Stop camping, obviously *doohhhhhhhhhhhhhh*

 

Well WG did not really change low tier arty at all. Just compare the Hummle with the tier 9 BC arty. Damage wise they are on paar, even though the BC arty is 3 tiers higher. Makes total sense does it now?

 

They are too lazy to fix lower tiers. Nothing new.

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 02 October 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

 

So, is it a good idea to play the game as laulau says, or not? I put it to you that it's a rubbish way to play the game, and will result in a low win rate and poor stats.

 

It is a terrible way to play the game.

 

In general,  best way to play against arty is to ignore it's existence and pray to rngesus.



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I got one shotted in my Type T-34 in Erlenberg when I wasn't camping but actually doing a frontal charge at the enemy base...:arta:

HundeWurst #24 Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:52 PM

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 02 October 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

 

So, is it a good idea to play the game as laulau says, or not? I put it to you that it's a rubbish way to play the game, and will result in a low win rate and poor stats.

 

Yes exactly. Its more a question of priorities.

Do you hate arty so much that you are willing to sacrifice your fun for that or are you dealing with this cancerous element and try not to go full retard arty save mode.

As per usual thats not the players fault but the fault lies in the arty design.

The only real thing that bothers me are the people who claim that you can play for victory and at the same time avoid arty. They are the real clueless among us.



Mike_Mckay #25 Posted 02 October 2017 - 05:11 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 02 October 2017 - 11:05 AM, said:

You should have just avoided to be hit by arty.

If you don't know how, i will tell you:

-never try attack or push

-never try to flank

-never try to spot

-hide behind the biggest building/mountain/rock on the map, and do NOT try to look or shoot the enemy tanks

 

Sure, playing like this sounds like not so much fun, but you are 'arty safe'  :trollface:

 

P.S: I also took today i nice shot from arty:

 

So youre saying my entire game strategy for every tier and class of tank is WRONG?


OMG!!!!


That explain a LOT :)

ArtyIsSuperior #26 Posted 07 October 2017 - 03:05 AM

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one shot from arty is normal thing, it is supposed to do that.

Big guns.

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View Postlaulaur, on 02 October 2017 - 11:05 AM, said:

You should have just avoided to be hit by arty.

If you don't know how, i will tell you:

-never try attack or push

-never try to flank

-never try to spot

-hide behind the biggest building/mountain/rock on the map, and do NOT try to look or shoot the enemy tanks

 

Sure, playing like this sounds like not so much fun, but you are 'arty safe'  :trollface:

 

P.S: I also took today i nice shot from arty:

 

But but but, arty deters camping! Right? ...right guys?.......

Phobos4321 #28 Posted 07 October 2017 - 03:51 AM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 02 October 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

I guess people primarily complained about tier 7 till 10 arty. That stuff was and still is seriously broken. The lower tiers were never the biggest concern as of now.

 

I does not matter how often that happens. It first should not ever happen and second if it happens you get so damn frustrated. Its super unfair.

 

thats bs and you know it

 

are ammoracks unfair ?

you should play lottery   propability to win doesnt matter ...

 

if i oneshot happens once every 2 game its an issue,  if it happens once in 10k games it isnt

 

its just being selectivly salty vs arty

ff by platoon - ok

oneshotted by td - ok

oneshotted by heavy- ok

ammoracked - ok

clipped by autoloader - ok

and every single one of that is more likely than being oneshotted by arty

 

just look at the OP when the arty hits him for 0 damage everything was ok he stayed there and than the arty said "thx" and got a lucky hit in  and he comes here with a whinethread 

View PostJigabachi, on 02 October 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

 

btw: Arty being toptier is one of the major things that should get fixed. That simply shouldn't happen.

scouts being toptier is a far bigger issue

View Postlaulaur, on 02 October 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

You should have just avoided to be hit by arty.

If you don't know how, i will tell you:

-never try attack or push

-never try to flank

-never try to spot

-hide behind the biggest building/mountain/rock on the map, and do NOT try to look or shoot the enemy tanks

 

Sure, playing like this sounds like not so much fun, but you are 'arty safe'  :trollface:

 

P.S: I also took today i nice shot from arty:

 

playing a doomstar bitching about being hit for 1k      hypocrite ... 

Shaade_Silentpaw #29 Posted 07 October 2017 - 04:10 AM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 07 October 2017 - 02:51 AM, said:

playing a doomstar bitching about being hit for 1k      hypocrite ... 

 

Deathstar*

 

Bitching about being hit for 1k by an enemy likely outside his render range, line of sight and completely safe from any retaliation*



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View PostShaade_Silentpaw, on 07 October 2017 - 04:10 AM, said:

 

Deathstar*

 

Bitching about being hit for 1k by an enemy likely outside his render range, line of sight and completely safe from any retaliation*

Yes that is arty. Great concept



Phobos4321 #31 Posted 07 October 2017 - 06:29 AM

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View PostShaade_Silentpaw, on 07 October 2017 - 04:10 AM, said:

 

Deathstar*

 

Bitching about being hit for 1k by an enemy likely outside his render range, line of sight and completely safe from any retaliation*

 

time to learn what tracers are and how they work

Yaccay #32 Posted 07 October 2017 - 06:37 AM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 07 October 2017 - 05:29 AM, said:

 

time to learn what tracers are and how they work

 

*Edited How would tracers help that guy in the FV183?? He can shoot back at arty or what?

You can NOT fight against arty *Edited

 

P.S.: Look at all those nice bounces, and BAM arty hits you for everything you have :arta::facepalm:  That is what i call 'fun'.....


Edited by Nohe21, 08 October 2017 - 11:59 AM.
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View PostIulian_ro, on 07 October 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:

*Edited How would tracers help that guy in the FV183?? He can shoot back at arty or what?

You can NOT fight against arty *Edited

 

P.S.: Look at all those nice bounces, and BAM arty hits you for everything you have :arta::facepalm:  That is what i call 'fun'.....

indeed it is fun when you play arty.



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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 02 October 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Hmm. Arty hits twice for no damage, t-34 hits 3 times, damaging twice and op claims arty one shot him. 

Perhaps you had better recheck your screen shot. 

 

Actually he hit the T34 twice and then got one shotted by the Hummel. As the OP described it and bloody annoying no doubt.

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View PostPhobos4321, on 07 October 2017 - 05:29 AM, said:

 

time to learn what tracers are and how they work

 

Time to learn what wheels and tracks are, and how they work.

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View PostJigabachi, on 02 October 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

To be fair: How often does that happen these days?

I didn't play lowtiers that much since quite a long time, but I can't remember seeing many oneshots, let alone getting oneshot.

 

Playing arty a bit lately it may only be my perception but one shots happen more often than they used to.  Certainly pre 0.8.6 I only ever had a couple while working my way through the entire Russian arty line, these days I can expect one a day, usually Swedish TDs.

 

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Arty being toptier is one of the major things that should get fixed. That simply shouldn't happen.

This is completely a perception thing, today's tier X arty is not as powerful as the pre 0.8.6 tier 8, which was no more powerful than the tier 6 of late beta.


Edited by Homer_J, 07 October 2017 - 07:35 AM.


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View PostIulian_ro, on 07 October 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:

 

*Edited How would tracers help that guy in the FV183?? He can shoot back at arty or what?

You can NOT fight against arty *Edited

 

P.S.: Look at all those nice bounces, and BAM arty hits you for everything you have :arta::facepalm:  That is what i call 'fun'.....

 

*Edited

 

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 safe from any retaliation*

  this claim is just *Edited wrong

every arty shot results in a tracer  that gives away the position of the arty so the other teams arty could fight them  without destroying any object or being spotted   just shooting, no tank near  and you can be fought   and on top of that your HP are so low  that even a close splash might kill you 

 

besides any heavy tank rushing a arty would be save from retalation, even if arty can shoot it, even if they hit it they will do some minor damage and die  and somehow that applies  for meds, tds and even scouts too  at least if they are full - half hp

 

by the way a well played td would be save from retalation too  being hull down or stealthy with some double bush

this "i could fight back" is just a giant bs 


Edited by Nohe21, 08 October 2017 - 12:27 PM.
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View PostPhobos4321, on 07 October 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

 this claim is just mindblowing ignorant and wrong

every arty shot results in a tracer  that gives away the position of the arty so the other teams arty could fight them  without destroying any object or being spotted   just shooting, no tank near  and you can be fought   and on top of that your HP are so low  that even a close splash might kill you

 

Any arty that has any clue what they are doing repositions after each shot - this negates tracers.

There's also the fact that 9 times out of 10, arty is too busy farming free exp from the rest of the tanks in the game to be wasting time looking for enemy arty tracers.

 

View PostPhobos4321, on 07 October 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

besides any heavy tank rushing a arty would be save from retalation, even if arty can shoot it, even if they hit it they will do some minor damage and die  and somehow that applies  for meds, tds and even scouts too  at least if they are full - half hp

 

The TD/heavy/med/light tank has to fight through the rest of the arty's team first.

 

View PostPhobos4321, on 07 October 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

by the way a well played td would be save from retalation too  being hull down or stealthy with some double bush

this "i could fight back" is just a giant bs 

 

They still have to be in range where the enemy tanks have a chance to retaliate - Arty does not.

They also cannot fire across the map, over hills and buildings and hitting things that would be impossible to do so with any other class.

 

 



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View PostPhobos4321, on 07 October 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

 

*Edited

 

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