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The_Georgian_One #1 Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:23 AM

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Ok, let's start with a caveat that I have not collected any statistics to support my claim. Apparently I'm also crap at google and couldn't find information from previous patches regarding this, so I'm open to critics. However...here's the case...

 

Recent patches, on top of introducing new matchmaking, 'tweaked' map rotation, with the aim to prevent same map from occurring too frequently. And it works. Sort of. However my observation is that this is not the only thing they 'tweaked'.

 

I'm pretty certain that, after a community poll, in one of the earlier patches WG reduced frequency of occurrence of maps such as Windstorm, Kharkov and Stalingrad (them being most hated/least preferred). Now after the 'map rotation tweak' I see these maps rather frequently. Actually, very frequently. Way more often than in previous patches.

 

Thing is...I can play Kharkov and Stalingrad, but I absolutely loathe Windstorm. If I get this map, Abbey, Ensk tier 10 Mines, etc in one session I start to feel nauseous. To make it worse, WG added it to the pool of maps for ranked...

 

Anybody else see Windstorm and other maps that should have reduced frequency of occurrence way to frequently or am I daydreaming and should put my tinfoil hat on?


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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 04 October 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

Ok, let's start with a caviar ...

 

Beluga hopefully.

The_Georgian_One #3 Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 04 October 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

 

Beluga hopefully.

 

Thanks QP, useful as always!

Jumping_Turtle #4 Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:38 AM

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I gt Pilsen a lot these days. Way too much and also WIndstorm indeed. Ad they havent fixed the mountainclimbing on A1/1 also

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 04 October 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

I gt Pilsen a lot these days.

 

I hope that Czech beer brand sues WG for copyright infringement and they will have to remove that map.

anonym_YNch2j0j5oJ9 #6 Posted 04 October 2017 - 11:43 AM

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Kharkov+Paris is kinda nice if u have med/heavy. Stalingrad+Windstorm+Lakeville is the ultimate piece of $H1T this game as to offer..

The_Georgian_One #7 Posted 04 October 2017 - 12:18 PM

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View PostPress2ForSkill, on 04 October 2017 - 11:43 AM, said:

Kharkov+Paris is kinda nice if u have med/heavy. Stalingrad+Windstorm+Lakeville is the ultimate piece of $H1T this game as to offer..

 

Paris is terrible for squishy meds. Go field and pretend you're a TD or brawl with heavies. Or just GTFO.

 

What I was trying to say in the original post: it seems the recent changes to map rotation messed up some earlier map rules. In fact I'm seeing way less Prokhorovka/Fiery Silent than Windstorm lately :(

 

By the way - they should really introduce an option to opt out from 1-3 maps by de-selecting them in the menu.
 


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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 04 October 2017 - 01:18 PM, said:

 

Paris is terrible for squishy meds. Go field and pretend you're a TD or brawl with heavies. Or just GTFO.

 

What I was trying to say in the original post: it seems the recent changes to map rotation messed up some earlier map rules. In fact I'm seeing way less Prokhorovka/Fiery Silent than Windstorm lately :(

 

By the way - they should really introduce an option to opt out from 1-3 maps by de-selecting them in the menu.
 

 

Yep map rotation still terrible, i free exp'd the FV215b line all the way, bought FV, love it, then i bought the tier 9 Conq afterwards, got windstorm for 2/3 battles and did no dmg, i rage sold Conq.

I would instantly un-select Windstorm Lakeville and stalingrad :( Would be awesome if WG did that, but, knowing WG.. 



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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 04 October 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

I'm pretty certain that, after a community poll, in one of the earlier patches WG reduced frequency of occurrence of maps such as Windstorm, Kharkov and Stalingrad (them being most hated/least preferred). Now after the 'map rotation tweak' I see these maps rather frequently. Actually, very frequently. Way more often than in previous patches.

 

They changed it when they introduced 9.18.  Unloved maps came back into normal rotation.

Mimos_A #10 Posted 04 October 2017 - 12:25 PM

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Yeah I do see a lot of maps like Kharkov that before the changes were so rare I didn't even know where the hell to go... I wouldn't mind seeing some of those maps a lot less again...

The_Georgian_One #11 Posted 04 October 2017 - 12:35 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 04 October 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

 

They changed it when they introduced 9.18.  Unloved maps came back into normal rotation.

 

And that is something I don't understand. What's the rationale behind that, dear mods/WG?

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 04 October 2017 - 12:35 PM, said:

 

And that is something I don't understand. What's the rationale behind that, dear mods/WG?

 

Thought we would have forgotten/wouldn't notice?  PITA but probably someone thought that taking them out last time was a mistake & overruled them.

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 04 October 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

 

Thought we would have forgotten/wouldn't notice?  PITA but probably someone thought that taking them out last time was a mistake & overruled them.

 

I think they stated the reason was that if they would implement the new rotation system AND keep the old occurrence value system it would be slow/hard/broken/impossible/whatever.

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 04 October 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

 

They changed it when they introduced 9.18.  Unloved maps came back into normal rotation.

Depends on what you define "normal rotation".

 

Getting Windstorm, Stalingrad etc a sh*tload of times as well in all my tanks. If I play a scout to grind it or do missions in a 2 hour session, I never or rarely get Prokhorovka or Malinovka. Mostly getting Stalingrad or corridor maps.



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View PostMimos_A, on 04 October 2017 - 12:40 PM, said:

 

I think they stated the reason was that if they would implement the new rotation system AND keep the old occurrence value system it would be slow/hard/broken/impossible/whatever.

 

That does sound like bollocks as a reason though.  There are quite a lot of maps in the list so I can't see how reducing the frequency of 3/4 would make it impossible - more likely someone couldn't be arsed to do the work needed to adjust the map picker.

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 04 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

 

That does sound like bollocks as a reason though.  There are quite a lot of maps in the list so I can't see how reducing the frequency of 3/4 would make it impossible - more likely someone couldn't be arsed to do the work needed to adjust the map picker.

 

I can understand the fear of making the system too burdened with complexity. I don't know enough about how the MM works technically to say for sure that it wouldn't present complications, but on the surface it does seem like something that could have been fixed if someone put some proper work into it yeah.







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