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Is something wrong with Batchat 25t armor?


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Noivilbo #1 Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:49 PM

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I've played around 15-20 games today and I've had batchat's bouncing/ricochet 308 pen and even 350 pen APCR shots. 

 

And on top of that I've had 3 cases where the crew said "That one didn't go through" and/or "We didn't even scratch them"

 

Bouncing on a batchat 25t should be a pretty rare event but yea, it can happen. How can it not go through?



HundeWurst #2 Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:53 PM

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THe upper frontal plate is 50mm (???) strong and well angled. It can easily produce some weird angles which then fall into the autobounce zone.



Noivilbo #3 Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:58 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 04 October 2017 - 09:53 PM, said:

THe upper frontal plate is 50mm (???) strong and well angled. It can easily produce some weird angles which then fall into the autobounce zone.

 

yes buddy, as I said above, it didn't autobounce. It said didn't go through. That in english translates "armor too much for shell to penetrate"

Homer_J #4 Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:59 PM

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It's also covered in odd bits of troll spaced armour but  the usual reason for bouncing AP/APCR on it is hitting the gun.

 

Replay will help.



brumbarr #5 Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:01 PM

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View PostNoivilbo, on 04 October 2017 - 08:58 PM, said:

 

yes buddy, as I said above, it didn't autobounce. It said didn't go through. That in english translates "armor too much for shell to penetrate"

 

Do not rely on the sound messages, they are messed up.

Noivilbo #6 Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:06 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 04 October 2017 - 09:59 PM, said:

It's also covered in odd bits of troll spaced armour but  the usual reason for bouncing AP/APCR on it is hitting the gun.

 

Replay will help.

 

I'm done posting replays on the forum "Naming and shaming too stronk, mods are hating on every replay uploaded". Instead, I'll send it to the appropriate people.

 

View Postbrumbarr, on 04 October 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

 

Do not rely on the sound messages, they are messed up.

 

It didn't bounce as I would of seen the shell's animation, unless that's messed up as well? In that case how about the armor? Why that wouldn't be messed up?



HundeWurst #7 Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:08 PM

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View PostNoivilbo, on 04 October 2017 - 08:58 PM, said:

 

yes buddy, as I said above, it didn't autobounce. It said didn't go through. That in english translates "armor too much for shell to penetrate"

 

And how much f***s does the game give about that? Non

The game does not differ. It randomly picks one of the statements which work for the situation: hit but no damage, neither external modules damaged.

 

View PostNoivilbo, on 04 October 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

 

I'm done posting replays on the forum "Naming and shaming too stronk, mods are hating on every replay uploaded". Instead, I'll send it to the appropriate people.

 

 

It didn't bounce as I would of seen the shell's animation, unless that's messed up as well? In that case how about the armor? Why that wouldn't be messed up?

 

OK a replay would help. Also there is a mod out there which analyses the replay AFTER the battle. Then you can see all your shots you fired and you recieved in a very helpfull manner, with 3d model and everything.

Its included in the modpack "PRO mod" however i do not know how the mod itself is called.

 

PS: If you just upload some random replay nobody is gonna do anything.


Edited by WunderWurst, 04 October 2017 - 09:15 PM.


Homer_J #8 Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:57 PM

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View PostNoivilbo, on 04 October 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

 

I'm done

 

Cool.

 

May as well ask for the thread to be closed then since we will never know the answer.



SirTogII #9 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:47 AM

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Still laugh at the time when my bat bounced an Obj261 AP shell on Ensk. Bet he was chuffed with his choice of ammo :-)

trispect #10 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:21 PM

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bc.JPGI was pretty shocked to learn just recently how much you can sidescrape in BatChat against medium caliber apcr's. :O But against HEAT or large caliber I wouldn't test the luck.:D

 

 

 

The mod is called Battle hits mod: http://forum.worldof...ewer-in-hangar/ It's pretty useful and cool to check those penetrations/non-penetrations after match. 



Bennie182 #11 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:26 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 04 October 2017 - 08:59 PM, said:

It's also covered in odd bits of troll spaced armour but  the usual reason for bouncing AP/APCR on it is hitting the gun.

 

Replay will help.

 

Hitting the gun is no bounce, it will say "critical hit"

Pandabird #12 Posted 05 October 2017 - 02:39 PM

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Bat ufp is unpennable by 80 pen HE, i know that much. Just shoot it in the turret.

Edited by Pandabird, 05 October 2017 - 02:40 PM.


denisdenikr #13 Posted 05 October 2017 - 02:51 PM

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its not that BC has stronk armor, but it has some shi*y angles, and it is small and fast... so it can actually bounce many shots from far distance... Plus Add to that Russian ("random" ) Number Genarator (RNG) that sometimes behave like drunk Russian guy that had  to many vodka drinks...

Edited by denisdenikr, 05 October 2017 - 02:54 PM.


Dava_117 #14 Posted 05 October 2017 - 02:53 PM

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View PostBennie182, on 05 October 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

 

Hitting the gun is no bounce, it will say "critical hit"

 

only if you actually damage it. But it happens only 33% of time. The oter time you will hear the no pen vocal message.




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