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Buff old premiums !?

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    Percentage of vote: 6.56%

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mikrock #1 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:00 AM

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Hello commanders ! i've just wondering will WG listen to us ? Should they buff old premium like IS6,KanoneJagdpanzer,SP,and others!

Defender have Skoprion G Gun and Is7 hull at tier 8, so is6 is like Tier 7 and Defender like Tier 10, Good job WG. We love u :P  >:|



brumbarr #2 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:06 AM

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They have already been doing that for thr past year or so.

Sirebellus #3 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:12 AM

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WG are never going to do that - they want you to spend money on New premiums


 



Pvt_Duffer #4 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:31 AM

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View PostSirebellus, on 05 October 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

WG are never going to do that - they want you to spend money on New premiums


 

 

They also want you to spend money on "Classics" too.

 

And anything else they can think  of.



StrikeFIN #5 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:49 AM

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Yes "old premiums" buff in general.

Coldspell #6 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:52 AM

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Kanonen jagdpanzer was never good so why would it need a buff


Also they regularly buff old prems you just aren't paying attention, JagdTiger 8,8 buffed last patch, t-34-3, type59 and type59 Patton buffed next patch. Type 62 and 13 57gf got indirect buff a few patches ago.

Balc0ra #7 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:56 AM

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View Postmikrock, on 05 October 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

Hello commanders ! i've just wondering will WG listen to us ? Should they buff old premium like IS6,KanoneJagdpanzer,SP,and others!

Defender have Skoprion G Gun and Is7 hull at tier 8, so is6 is like Tier 7 and Defender like Tier 10, Good job WG. We love u :P  >:|

 

IS-6 & KV-5 is getting buffed. They just don't know what of the two directions to take it. As in removing the limited MM and giving it a massive buff. Or a minor pen buff like the T26E4 got, and keep the limited MM. The KanoneJagdpanzer is getting a 105mm gun instead. When? Who knows. They said that until March, every patch will mainly focus on balance changes. Inc premium tanks.

Edited by Balc0ra, 05 October 2017 - 11:56 AM.


Homer_J #8 Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:58 AM

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View Postmikrock, on 05 October 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

Defender have Skoprion G Gun and Is7 hull at tier 8, so is6 is like Tier 7 and Defender like Tier 10, Good job WG. We love u :P  >:|

 

That's why IS-6 only meets tier 9 like tier 7 tanks do while Defender has to deal with tier 10.  Seems fair to me.



Pandabird #9 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:11 PM

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IV/BP need some love too

VeryRisky #10 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:14 PM

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Buff T14....give it the M3 Lee gun stats (yes, it's that bad).

Lord_Edge #11 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:43 PM

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View Postmikrock, on 05 October 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

Defender have Skoprion G Gun and Is7 hull at tier 8, so is6 is like Tier 7 and Defender like Tier 10

 

I fully agree the IS6 needs a buff but c'mon that's a bit far fetched.  Firstly the Defender may have arguably the best tier 8 Soviet HT gun but it's nowhere near as good as the Skorpions, it doesn't have the pen, ROF or handling.  It has higher alpha than the IS-3 but longer reload resulting in roughly the same DPM, this can be a positive or a negative depending on the situation, and it's noticeably inferior to the gun the tier 9 T-10 and ST-I get.  To address it's armour, yes it's good but it's not as good as the IS-7's, not even close.

 

The big problem the IS-6 has right now is that 175mm pen and 217mm gold simply do not cut it when mostly facing tier 8 or 9 opponents, and this really needs sorting.  logically speaking this shouldn't be too hard for WG to fix, one really simple solution would be to give the IS-6 a second non-historical gun just like they did with the IS-4, I.E players could choose to use the D-30 with it's 175mm pen and sick DPM, or they could choose to use an alternative gun with good pen and worse DPM.



K_A #12 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:45 PM

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View PostVeryRisky, on 05 October 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

Buff T14....give it the M3 Lee gun stats (yes, it's that bad).

 

I'd play mine much more if it had the M3 Lee gun. That thing was really powerful.

 

As a whole, I really would like to see some of the older premiums brought up to current standards, but at the same time I'm hesitant to call out and enforce an all-round buff to all of them. Knowing WG's heavy-handedness concerning buffs (*cough* Maus *cough*), inevitably some of them would end up way overbuffed, and that would just add to the constant powercreep problem, because then some tech tree tanks would start looking like hummingbird eggs in a basket full of ostrich offspring. I'd much rather see the current overperforming premiums nerfed for the sake of game balance. WG has nerfed premiums before, and they have every right to do so in case of a couple tanks (looking at you Defender), but sadly I guess they are afraid of the ensuing inevitable backlash from the window lickers who's only way to win a 1v1 is in a Defender against a T-34-85, and even then they will lose half the time.


Edited by K_A, 05 October 2017 - 12:53 PM.


Jethro_Grey #13 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:53 PM

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I voted yes because i'm not in a 'no' mood.

AtomkickShinoski #14 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:54 PM

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Best thing would be to completely get rid of pref. MM and give necessary buffs to those tanks.

japtank #15 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:04 PM

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View PostAtomkickShinoski, on 05 October 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

Best thing would be to completely get rid of pref. MM and give necessary buffs to those tanks.

 

Is +1/-1 getting rid of pref. MM?

 

I guess it is, so I vote yes :)



arthurwellsley #16 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:06 PM

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@mikrock

 

WG have already stated that they will buff the old premiums on a nation by nation basis between now and next summer;

 

(a) Lowe got a good buff, and is now competetive, JadgTiger 8.8 also buffed.

(b) Warcimes M10/Panther got a buff and is now no longer completely rubbish, although the mm stiffs it a little,

(c.) Type 59, T34-3, and Type 59/Patton will get their buff towards end of December 2017,

(d) T54 mod1 and T44-100 have had a buff tested,

(e) KanoneJagdpanzer is slated for a new gun,

(f) FV4202 has been tested with armour buffs, but the test was reverted, as it's a UK tank nothing might happen to it.

(g) WG have said that they are under pressure on RU server to make the IS6 and KV-5 more "relevant", but have been struggling with how to buff them,

(h) T34 and FCM (come to that CDC) no mention yet of anything in the pipeline.

(i) Type 62, Blackdog and AMX13 57GF all got an indirect in patch 9.18 with the changes to mm for light tanks. AMX 13 57GF used to suck extremely hard, and is now somewhat amusing.

(j) SPershing might not even need a buff.

(k) wz 112 good armour buff a few patches ago. Will wz 111 get a similar buff to IS6?

 

Did I miss any rumours?


Edited by arthurwellsley, 05 October 2017 - 01:08 PM.


Spurtung #17 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:14 PM

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View PostColdspell, on 05 October 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

Kanonen jagdpanzer was never good so why would it need a buff

There's no arguing with this sort of logical reasoning. :rolleyes: 



Junglist_ #18 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:22 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 05 October 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:

 

That's why IS-6 only meets tier 9 like tier 7 tanks do while Defender has to deal with tier 10.  Seems fair to me.

 

Lol as if any tier 8 tank meets tier 7s on regular basis these days. So prem HTs fighting tier 8s and 9s vast majority of the games with 175 pen. Totally fair.. 

Coldspell #19 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:31 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 05 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

There's no arguing with this sort of logical reasoning. :rolleyes: 

Well let's be honest anyone who even glanced at its stats from test server would have realised it was literally a turd. But QB in his infinite wisdom compared it to an E25 and the fan club opened their wallet. 

We're talking about a tank that on release was worse than its tier 7 counterpart in almost every aspect.

If anything people who purchased it should be offered a refund and a short informative video on how to read stats and use the test server.

 

In short caveat emptor, this tank wasn't power creeped it was trash on release. 


Edited by Coldspell, 05 October 2017 - 01:34 PM.


StrikeFIN #20 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:36 PM

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View PostPandabird, on 05 October 2017 - 01:11 PM, said:

IV/BP need some love too

 

IV atleast pen buff, BP maybe a little more mobile (top speed same as normal Matilda)

Edited by StrikeFIN, 05 October 2017 - 01:48 PM.





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