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OG_Dino #1 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:11 PM

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French TD line is now little bit OP....its my opinion

 

T4 is good tank but i had bad wnr and RNG with him

 

T5 isnt so bad and other tanks in line also

 

from T you have autoloader yey

 

and T10 is like beast on paper

 

what you other guys think...is french td line worth of grinding?

 

and will WG nerf them...i think op t8,t9 and t10 td?



Quintuss #2 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:49 PM

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Still meh imho.

 

Tier 2-7 are mostly bad (the T5 is ok, but not T67 level of good), tier 8-10 are not as bad as before but still very limited without turrets and with bad pen (for TDs). As much as people imitially cryed about the foch-B: i don't see it dominating battles anywhere as much as a Maus, Type 5 or a well played BC/Skoda.

 

Additionally with the FV4005 buff next patch the number of Fochs getting 1-shotted will rise a fair bit.



commer #3 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:54 PM

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Why would you play a tank with no turret?

Press2ForSkill #4 Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:59 PM

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FochB is completely broken unless u really suck .. not worth the grind since no one will ever respect u

Jigabachi #5 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:01 PM

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View Postcommer, on 05 October 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

Why would you play a tank with no turret?

Because there are people who don't just chose their tanks based on their pwning rating.



Isharial #6 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:06 PM

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the T6 is useless, and don't even think about playing it stock, GET THE TRACKS FIRST!!!! (otherwise your stuck with a T3 gun until you do and that makes you even more worthless)

it cant hide, it cant flank, and it cant spot, the only good thing about it is that it can pen anything you come across and has 330 alpha if you run gold on the 105mm... (which I didn't when I owned it, wasn't a dinger then!)


 

the T7 goes about the same way, its a "fun" vehicle but irritating at times as you really cant hide a tank the size of an O-NI in a bush....

it has no armour either so unless your top tier the armour is 50/50 bounce chance at best, most know about the glaring weakspots on the hull roof....

the gun is alright, but derpy...

its not an easy tank to play and there are far better alternatives at T7


 

I have yet to play higher as im still on the T7 atm...


 

View Postcommer, on 05 October 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

Why would you play a tank with no turret?

 

why do you play tanks with turrets?

 



OG_Dino #7 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:24 PM

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View PostQuintuss, on 05 October 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Still meh imho.

 

Tier 2-7 are mostly bad (the T5 is ok, but not T67 level of good), tier 8-10 are not as bad as before but still very limited without turrets and with bad pen (for TDs). As much as people imitially cryed about the foch-B: i don't see it dominating battles anywhere as much as a Maus, Type 5 or a well played BC/Skoda.

 

Additionally with the FV4005 buff next patch the number of Fochs getting 1-shotted will rise a fair bit.

 

HMMMM

jack_timber #8 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:27 PM

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View Postcommer, on 05 October 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

Why would you play a tank with no turret?

Swedish TD T8 to 10! No turret but.... And has a cloaking device.

Been pondering about French TD line at T5 but kinda started on Chinese so swithering between these two....

Years ago used to be indecisive now I just can't make my mind up:)



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View PostJigabachi, on 05 October 2017 - 01:01 PM, said:

Because there are people who don't just chose their tanks based on their pwning rating.

 

WTF is a pwning rating? You are suggesting I want to only play op tanks? TD's are simply frustrating to play. That's all. The narrower the traverse the more frustration you get. 

 

View PostPress2ForSkill, on 05 October 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

FochB is completely broken unless u really suck .. not worth the grind since no one will ever respect u

 

It's broken but very frustrating and situational. One game you stomp everyone, another you are useless

 

View Postjack_timber, on 05 October 2017 - 01:27 PM, said:

Swedish TD T8 to 10! No turret but.... And has a cloaking device.

Been pondering about French TD line at T5 but kinda started on Chinese so swithering between these two....

Years ago used to be indecisive now I just can't make my mind up:)

 

They work a bit like turreted tanks

roachex #10 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:46 PM

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Well you missed to get the best vechicle in branch - F155.

F50B is a money sink compared, to F155. The only thing what F50B has, it is DPM/clip versatility.

After gun arc buff and side armor tweak, F155 feels decent ok. With all the armor powercreep, that extra pen goes a long way.



Coldspell #11 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:50 PM

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No its not worth Fochb is overrated, not having a turret, decent pen or passable armour make it meh at best.
It's the same gun 8-10 that should tell you all you need to know.

Press2ForSkill #12 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:51 PM

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View Postcommer, on 05 October 2017 - 02:34 PM, said:

 

It's broken but very frustrating and situational. One game you stomp everyone, another you are useless

 

 

You haven't even played one yet... maybe on test server but that is a pretty terrible place to test one, there's a reason why some of my friends have 4k dpg in their fochB's... FochB is amazing unless u are a bad player that doesn't know how to position.. even my friends that are bad at this game (1.8k~ wn8) have over 3k DPG in the FochB while their other tier 10s have only 2.2k or 2.4k dpg...

 



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View PostPress2ForSkill, on 05 October 2017 - 01:51 PM, said:

 

You haven't even played one yet... maybe on test server but that is a pretty terrible place to test one, there's a reason why some of my friends have 4k dpg in their fochB's... FochB is amazing unless u are a bad player that doesn't know how to position.. even my friends that are bad at this game (1.8k~ wn8) have over 3k DPG in the FochB while their other tier 10s have only 2.2k or 2.4k dpg...

 

 

You suck at looking at stats since they clearly say I have 62 battles in the Foch B. Yeah I have bad DPG i mine and I think we should focus on winning more. Foch being fast + having an autoloader is amazing late game when it can farm empty damage like nothing else which will inflate damge relative to win rate. I played mine with crapcrew since I have no decent crew (seriously not even 6th) but it is a situational tank because it's so bad at both sniping and close range fighting. I'd rather be in the amx50b. 

Jigabachi #14 Posted 05 October 2017 - 02:22 PM

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View Postcommer, on 05 October 2017 - 01:34 PM, said:

WTF is a pwning rating? You are suggesting I want to only play op tanks? TD's are simply frustrating to play. That's all. The narrower the traverse the more frustration you get.

Most tanks that aren't overstronk, OP or simply don't fit into the meta are frustrating to play. But that doesn't keep you from having good and entertaining matches with those tanks.

I chose most of the tanks that I own because they look cool or because they play differently. That balances out lots of fustration for me.



Browarszky #15 Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:01 PM

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Balc0ra #16 Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:03 PM

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In general? Not really. Low tiers are still horrible and die the second they are spotted. The tier 7 is and will be even worse then the Challenger is currently IMO. Tier 8+ is "OP" when getting hit by them in the open with that burst damage like any clip gun. But they still feel bad on other areas when playing them unless you get to play support and farm. Tier 8 is the one that's best off tbh since they all have the same gun and pen. And thus he gets the most out of the burst damage more often with normal ammo.

 

As for nerfing? Who knows. On EU the B is barely doing better then the 155. And not doing better then the Swedish 103 or even the new Chinese TD etc. But we all know that most buffs and nerfs are more so on how they do on RU vs the other servers. And on RU, the 155 is still doing better then the B. But even there the new Chinese TD is getting a way higher WR and stats then anyone of them. If they do anything, I suspect they will remove one round and hardly touch the reload time like they did with the WT.

vixu #17 Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:12 PM

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Had F155, sold it cause it was terribad. Bought it again just to get the "special status". Havn't tried F-B or F155 since then. 

I'd say that with all the other t10 TDs as a possibility, Foch-B does not have much to offer, but grinding to it would be a pain.

250swb #18 Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:24 PM

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Looking on the bright side the S35 CA is great, especially with it's very, very special premium ammo.




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