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Dr_ownape #1 Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:59 PM

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Nothing official yet from WG even though it's up. One of my clan mates has deep dived (he does this a lot) and found out the following so far - all needs confirmation and raw, sorry:

 

Superconq -

reload 8.92 -> 8.34 (all stats 100% crew)

disp 0.13 0.15 0.10 -> 0.1 0.12 0.12 (turret, hull move, hull trav)

+50 hp

 

conq unchanged from 1st

 

caernarvon unchanged from 1st

 

4202 reverted armor buffs, engine buff stayed

 

conway top speed 50 -> 40

 

FV4005 top speed 50->35 and removed turret dispersion buff

 

Will update with more if there is any

 

 



Dava_117 #2 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:06 PM

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Sounds good to me! Thank you for the news! :great:

FluffyRedFox #3 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:06 PM

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Super Conq and Conq have -10* gun dep now and fv215b is HD

Jotneblod #4 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:07 PM

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Yeah, just rub it in. Brits can't have nice things. :(

 

Really happy about the engine buff on the FV4202 though, now I can get wrecked faster!



HundeWurst #5 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:10 PM

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conway top speed 50 -> 40

Well when I played that tank it did not ever got over 35 anyway. But oh well not the worst change.

4202 reverted armor buffs, engine buff stayed

Who would have thought... Well with the engine buff its still going to be a turd. It needs WAY WAY WAY better DPM (give it 1.5 more rounds per minute, hell even 2 might work) and buff the gunhandling big time.

FV4005 top speed 50->35 and removed turret dispersion buff

Boy oh boy they actually listened. That seems alright now. Maybe still a bit to powerfull since that tank will be at top speed at any given point but it needed a buff. Also remember the -10 degree gun depression stayed. This is how its done WG!

Superconq -

reload 8.92 -> 8.34 (all stats 100% crew)

disp 0.13 0.15 0.10 -> 0.1 0.12 0.12 (turret, hull move, hull trav)

+50 hp

Well why buff the one dispersion stat and nerf the other? Also why did the turret not get a proper weakspot in return for a better lower plate? Well not that I am going to complain but that tank looks but one thing: BORING.



The_Georgian_One #6 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:10 PM

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View Postfishbob101, on 05 October 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Super Conq and Conq have -10* gun dep now and fv215b is HD

 

Too good to be true:harp:

thestaggy #7 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:11 PM

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Something needed changing on the FV4005, but don't those changes basically put it back to where it was?

 

View PostWunderWurst, on 05 October 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

4202 reverted armor buffs, engine buff stayed

Who would have thought... Well with the engine buff its still going to be a turd. It needs WAY WAY WAY better DPM (give it 1.5 more rounds per minute, hell even 2 might work) and buff the gunhandling big time.

 

I don't know why, instead of giving EVERYONE a turret buff, they don't just buff the gun handling of some tanks? A -10 gun depression tank doesn't need 250+ turret armour, but just make it a handy snapshotter. 

Having gone through the Cent I, 7/1 and tried the FV202 on the Test Server, it really wouldn't break the game by buffing their potato-throwing guns and leaving everything else as is.


Edited by thestaggy, 05 October 2017 - 04:15 PM.


Userext #8 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:12 PM

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I'd rather see your friend's source for this and translate myself.

FluffyRedFox #9 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:21 PM

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 05 October 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

 

Too good to be true:harp:
Spoiler

 



Homer_J #10 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:23 PM

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View PostUserext, on 05 October 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

I'd rather see your friend's source for this and translate myself.

 

https://worldoftanks...ij-test-vtoroy/

 

Type 59 ammo capacity increased from 34 to 50.  Woohoo!  Moar gold spam!


Edited by Homer_J, 05 October 2017 - 04:26 PM.


HundeWurst #11 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:24 PM

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Well SQ got -10. And a bit better rate of fire. I cant confirm the softstats as I obviously cant see them in the testclient.

However HP also are up to 2400. So why would the changes to the softstats be wrong.



Dr_ownape #12 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:25 PM

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View PostUserext, on 05 October 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

I'd rather see your friend's source for this and translate myself.

 

he posted it, as is, in our clan chat - what more do you want..an invite?

Mike_Mckay #13 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:26 PM

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I don't have faintest idea how the process for testing works so out of curiosity does this give any indication of when (at the soonest) the patch might come?

K_A #14 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:27 PM

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That actually looks surprisingly good:great: 

 

Apart from the FV4202, I don't see why it couldn't have at least somewhat stronger turret than now...



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View Postthestaggy, on 05 October 2017 - 04:11 PM, said:

I don't know why, instead of giving EVERYONE a turret buff....

 

WG are slowly implementing last year's sandbox changes.  Lets hope they stop at armour & don't drop shell penetration and accuracy as well.

Userext #16 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:33 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 05 October 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

 

Thanks!

 

So they really thought buffing the speed of this tank would be enough?

Meanwhile centurion...



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View PostMike_Mckay, on 05 October 2017 - 03:26 PM, said:

I don't have faintest idea how the process for testing works so out of curiosity does this give any indication of when (at the soonest) the patch might come?

 

probably 2 weeks away now

Celution #18 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:37 PM

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As far as vehicle rebalances go, this was done in the second iteration:

 

Conqueror (IX)

  • Changed the gun depression angle of the OQF 32-pdr Gun Mk. II for the Conqueror Mk. II turret from -7 to -10 degrees.
  • Changed the gun depression angle of the OQF 32-pdr Gun Mk. II for the Conqueror Mk. II tABP urret from -7 to -10 degrees.
  • Changed the gun depression angle of the 120 mm Gun L1A1 for the Conqueror Mk. II ABP turret from -7 to -10 degrees.

 

FV4202 (VIII)

  • Reverted turret armor buffs to 9.20 levels.

 

FV4004 Conway (IX)

  • Maximum top speed decreased from 50 km/h to 40 km/h.
  • Maximum reverse speed decreased from 20 to 15 km/h.

 

FV4005 Stage II (X)

  • Maximum top speed decreased from 50 km/h to 35 km/h.
  • Maximum reverse speed reduced from 15 to 12 km/h.

 

Super Conqueror (X)

  • Gun dispersion on movement reduced by 25%.
  • Gun dispersion on hull traverse increased by 20%.
  • Gun dispersion on turret traverse reduced by 29%.
  • Reloading time of the 120 mm Gun L1A1 reduced from 9.3 s to 8.7 s (base DPM increased from 2580 to 2760, same as FV215b).
  • Changed the gun depression angle of the 120 mm Gun L1A1 for the Conqueror Mk. II ABP urret from -7 to -10 degrees.
  • Hitpoints increased from 2350 to 2400.

 

Type 59 (VIII)

  • Ammunition capacity increased from 32 to 50 shells.

 

FV215b (X)

  • Received an HD model.

 

 

 

My opinion:

  1. It is incredibly ridiculous to give the Conqueror and Super Conqueror -10 degrees of gun depression.
  2. The ridiculous Caernarvon DPM is not nerfed at all.
  3. The Conqueror still can't mount the 120 mm L1A1 in its historical turret.
  4. The Charioteer, Conway and FV4005 still have their silly -10 gun depression.
  5. The tier X Super Conqueror still has worse base aim time than the tier IX Conqueror.
  6. Giving the Super Conqueror the same dpm and near-identical gun handling as the FV215b with all the armor improvements it has over it, is just too much.
  7. Super Conqueror did not need more hitpoints.

 

What are they smoking at the balance department, for real?!


Edited by Celution, 05 October 2017 - 04:46 PM.


The_Georgian_One #19 Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:42 PM

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I was planning to sell SQ, but now I'm tempted to keep it. 10 degrees of gun dep plus gun buffs...

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View PostMike_Mckay, on 05 October 2017 - 04:26 PM, said:

I don't have faintest idea how the process for testing works so out of curiosity does this give any indication of when (at the soonest) the patch might come?

 

Maybe middle of next week.  Watch the RU portal for news, that will probably give you a heads up a day early.




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