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m3hm3d #1 Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:30 PM

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XVM causes following problems this days :

 

1. A lot of hate and toxic behavior towards players 

2. Negative approach to the battle when you see different colors in each team 

3. Focusing XVM by players . ( suicide runners / arties etc ) 

4. Stats padding on low tiers by experienced players destroying game experience for new players.

 

WG needs to add it as illegal mode or give us option to hide your stats...

 

 



Humansland #2 Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:48 PM

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Bulllshhit. XVM is awesome!

Edited by Humansland, 06 October 2017 - 11:49 PM.


430Umad #3 Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:50 PM

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what crapgames out there consider exposing ratings of each player during a battle as well?

 

complete jackshit


Edited by JOHN_HOLLYWOOD, 06 October 2017 - 11:53 PM.


Steve8066 #4 Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:54 PM

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XVM needs leaving ingame but everything it shows needs removing from actual battles (stats/colours etc.)

K_A #5 Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:55 PM

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I read somewhere that hiding your stats from the new hall of fame might've hid them from the api also, meaning xvm wouldn't show them anymore. Not sure if it was hearsay or something more.

430Umad #6 Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:56 PM

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View PostK_A, on 07 October 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

I read somewhere that hiding your stats from the new hall of fame 

 

that's possible?



K_A #7 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:01 AM

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View PostJOHN_HOLLYWOOD, on 06 October 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

that's possible?

 

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/hall-of-fame/

 

Just at the bottom: HIDE MY RESULTS



HeidenSieker #8 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:02 AM

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View Postm3hm3d, on 06 October 2017 - 11:30 PM, said:

XVM causes following problems this days :

 

1. A lot of hate and toxic behavior towards players 

2. Negative approach to the battle when you see different colors in each team 

3. Focusing XVM by players . ( suicide runners / arties etc ) 

4. Stats padding on low tiers by experienced players destroying game experience for new players.

 

WG needs to add it as illegal mode or give us option to hide your stats...

 

"WG to disable the display of stats of the enemy team only, in battle".

 

That's all. Then carry on.



430Umad #9 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:03 AM

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That would be actually amazing :O

Tomorrow i am going to check that, after the next result's adjustment :O

 



Balc0ra #10 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:14 AM

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View Postm3hm3d, on 06 October 2017 - 11:30 PM, said

1. A lot of hate and toxic behavior towards players

 

Yeah, that would happen even if they removed it. Then everyone would just take a piss on anyone playing badly there and then, regardless of skill. As then people would blindly pick on anyone better then them even. As he "yolo rushed" alone. Or failed to pen a 1 on 1 due to RNG. Not because their WN8 is lower. So I suspect then it will be worse. Now most shut up because "he is better then me".

 

View Postm3hm3d, on 06 October 2017 - 11:30 PM, said

2. Negative approach to the battle when you see different colors in each team

 

That works both ways. I've lost "easy" wins because your blue or better players over push the flanks way to fast and die instantly. Because XVM said it was a 80% Chance to win. It should say 20% to screw the match up instead.

 

View Postm3hm3d, on 06 October 2017 - 11:30 PM, said

3. Focusing XVM by players . ( suicide runners / arties etc )

 

And if that was gone, they go for the "OP" tank or the dangerous tank vs the OP stats. And will yolo that equally bad to "take it out" early. That won't go away. Then again people do like tho show their stats... I suspect that's why you have a WN8 sig.

 

View Postm3hm3d, on 06 October 2017 - 11:30 PM, said

4. Stats padding on low tiers by experienced players destroying game experience for new players.

 

The only thing that will die out if XMV is removed is alt accounts. As alt accounts buy tier 8 premiums to "pad" credits early on. So WG needs those.  And most will still play low tiers regardless. Mostly for crew training. As gift tanks is still the only way to train tier X scout crew on most nations. 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 07 October 2017 - 12:15 AM.


Maauru #11 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:16 AM

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View PostK_A, on 06 October 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

I read somewhere that hiding your stats from the new hall of fame might've hid them from the api also, meaning xvm wouldn't show them anymore. Not sure if it was hearsay or something more.

 

Don't think that worked.

I tried to see if it work, activated Hide my stats and after 2-3 days I still see my stats and recent games on different stat tracking sites.

I do not have XVM but if those stat tracking sites can still access your stats than I do not see how XVM could not.

 

I think activating Hide my stats could actually hide this new WG ratings from API but they (API) probably use data from old ratings anyway so they will still work.


Edited by Maauru, 07 October 2017 - 12:17 AM.


K_A #12 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:18 AM

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View PostMaauru, on 06 October 2017 - 11:16 PM, said:

 

Don't think that worked.

I tried to see if it work, activated Hide my stats and after 2-3 days I still see my stats and recent games on different stat tracking sites.

I do not have XVM but if those stat tracking sites can still access your stats than I do not see how XVM could not.

 

I think activating Hide my stats could actually hide this new WG ratings from API but they (API) probably use data from old ratings anyway so they will still work.

 

Could be true. I haven't tried myself and it was just a rumor, though I do recall it was ph3lan who claimed it.. 

Derethim #13 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:23 AM

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I'm pro removing XVM from the matches. It would solve a lot of suiciders and people saying "loss" at the start.

Maybe they could limit it to showing the chance of winning the match, but not individual stats.



Panzerfighter_ #14 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:33 AM

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XVM is great and i love to see the stats at battle start so i can check if i can trust the guy next to me or if hes dead in 2min, blocking me and shooting my back.

HeidenSieker #15 Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:41 AM

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Excellent. If WG blocked in-battle stats for the enemy team you could still see your own team's stats.

DeltaOperator #16 Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:03 AM

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View PostPanzerfighter_, on 07 October 2017 - 01:33 AM, said:

XVM is great and i love to see the stats at battle start so i can check if i can trust the guy next to me or if hes dead in 2min, blocking me and shooting my back.

 

Indeed it is. XVM allows you to analyze the capabilities of both teams and make an educated guess on how the battle unfolds before it even started. Of course it is not to be treated as some sort of guarantee, but it definitly adds to the tactical depth of the game. It is valueable addition to the game and makes it very colorful.

m3hm3d #17 Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:05 AM

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View PostPanzerfighter_, on 07 October 2017 - 12:33 AM, said:

XVM is great and i love to see the stats at battle start so i can check if i can trust the guy next to me or if hes dead in 2min, blocking me and shooting my back.

 

:))))

Taht's correct but generally I do not play with 3000 wn8 but with 300 wn8 who drop his top tier tank from the cliff saying LOSS during  countdown..

 

 



Jumping_Turtle #18 Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:06 AM

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No thanks. I like it.

Mimos_A #19 Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:27 AM

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I'm not entirely sure what you think will be solved by banning xvm.

 

Those who act dumb based on what they think xvm tells them will not get less dumb by xvm being gone.


Edited by Mimos_A, 07 October 2017 - 01:28 AM.


qqq10 #20 Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:36 AM

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View PostDerethim, on 06 October 2017 - 11:23 PM, said:

I'm pro removing XVM from the matches. It would solve a lot of suiciders and people saying "loss" at the start.

Maybe they could limit it to showing the chance of winning the match, but not individual stats.

 

What's the big deal with the "lost" guys? Every time there is a discussion about xvm this comes up. In the past month (500ish battles) I can only remember it happening maybe three times: one legitimate claim - team full of bots vs green+, one barely yellow guy complaining about orange team and one where someone jokingly replied "we lose" to a guy asking (he didn't have xvm) about the win chance (the teams were pretty much equal in terms of WNs) - the one asking then drowned himself - which turned out to be pretty hilarious after we won the battle with only one dead tank - apart from the idiot. And it's not some lucky streak, I honestly don't remember it happening that often.

 

 


Edited by qqq10, 07 October 2017 - 01:37 AM.





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