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mega_man10 #1 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:57 AM

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now i know i might get a lot of hate for this but just read first then form an opinion

 

so recently ive had a lot to grind at t9 which is fine recently got the st-I, but because ive being doing heavy tanks at t9 i keep meeting the type.

i just think they destroy gameplay yea sure it may be fun to come around a corner not giving 2 f's about angling or what ammo to use and just derp people in the face, but what does that teach the player nothing they is absolutely no skill required to play them.

 

im going to guess im not the the first to bring up this issue but its just soul destroying and is why i refuse to play them and i have zero respect for anyone who does.

now ive played WoT for a while now (since before physics was a thing) and i know nothing will change.

 

personally i think wargaming need to rethink this line and instead of putting made up tanks i.e china td's and they mutant elephant tanks they should be concentrating on more maps, more polishing of the game, new modes and i do know things like this are coming but i still find it hard to have fun..

 

anyway ive rambled for too long , would like to know what everyone else thinks



Liviguy #2 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:59 AM

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The Japanese heavies are a joke, they ruined tier 5,6 when introduced. And some of them are way too fast for their size/weight and the amount of armour they have. Go look at the old threads when the line was first introduced they had a shocking affect on gameplay, and yet quite a few posters said the usual guff “get gud”, “ flank them”, while tiers were ruined with 2 or 3 in every bloody game.

Edited by Liviguy, 08 October 2017 - 01:04 AM.


Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 08 October 2017 - 02:34 AM

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Wow that's some news....nobody ever came up with that fact before.

Phobos4321 #4 Posted 08 October 2017 - 04:30 AM

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gameplay destroyed by :

 

prem ammo

arties

auto loader

platoons

mm

superheavies

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strange the game is still alive while its gameplay is destroyed so many times ... 



VarzA #5 Posted 08 October 2017 - 06:30 AM

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Throw gold at them .... they are the only tanks i have no qualms about throwing as much gold at them as possible .... and making sure i pen every time.

OdysseusKrieg #6 Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:41 AM

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:popcorn:

 



Sushil #7 Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:53 AM

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View PostLiviguy, on 08 October 2017 - 05:29 AM, said:

The Japanese heavies are a joke, they ruined tier 5,6 when introduced. And some of them are way too fast for their size/weight and the amount of armour they have. Go look at the old threads when the line was first introduced they had a shocking affect on gameplay, and yet quite a few posters said the usual guff “get gud”, “ flank them”, while tiers were ruined with 2 or 3 in every bloody game.

 

I remember there was a thread on tier 6 OI being too OP "I am sick and tired of OI" :) . The highest poster in that thread was Bulldod_Drummond trying to defend OI :teethhappy:

Panzergame2018 #8 Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:59 AM

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in ranged battles against all these super pro WN8 players .IT"S  KILLING TIME WITH TYPE 5 .

 

1 Shot  1400 dmg at bat or obj 140/907 

 

So keep whining and crying 4m silver because of type 5.

All those super unicums cry also ingame LOL.

And yes even with mods those unicums can't pen me LOL.If you know how to p^lay the type sniper tank.

 



jdc302 #9 Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:13 AM

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View PostSushil, on 08 October 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

 

I remember there was a thread on tier 6 OI being too OP "I am sick and tired of OI" :) . The highest poster in that thread was Bulldod_Drummond trying to defend OI :teethhappy:

Haven't seen bulldog on the forums for quite a while now.



ZlatanArKung #10 Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:44 AM

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View Postapolinarisje, on 08 October 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

in ranged battles against all these super pro WN8 players .IT"S  KILLING TIME WITH TYPE 5 .

 

1 Shot  1400 dmg at bat or obj 140/907 

 

So keep whining and crying 4m silver because of type 5.

All those super unicums cry also ingame LOL.

And yes even with mods those unicums can't pen me LOL.If you know how to p^lay the type sniper tank.

 

 

So much [edited]in one single post.



HundeWurst #11 Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:11 AM

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View Postapolinarisje, on 08 October 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

in ranged battles against all these super pro WN8 players .IT"S  KILLING TIME WITH TYPE 5 .

 

1 Shot  1400 dmg at bat or obj 140/907 

 

So keep whining and crying 4m silver because of type 5.

All those super unicums cry also ingame LOL.

And yes even with mods those unicums can't pen me LOL.If you know how to p^lay the type sniper tank.

 

Another post, after reading it I feel a bit stuider.



ThebaldEagle #12 Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:09 AM

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And i am sick of the whiners here on forum.

Nerf this tank

Buff this tank

bad MM ( ok thats a ok one )

Name and shamers

 



Balc0ra #13 Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:33 AM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 08 October 2017 - 04:30 AM, said:

strange the game is still alive while its gameplay is destroyed so many times ... 

 

Because everyone inc you is whining about it. But still plays it. And numbers = happy investors to name one.

 

I can agree with the tier 6 HT. That's still a bit silly. Tier 5 got slapped in the face, and no one fears that anymore. But tier 7 and up... well, anyone that has played that line up knows it's a mixed bag. The tier 8 did not even have gold ammo when it came. And you're not gonna do much with 215 AP pen vs a Maus. So most used the derp on that to. So thus WG thought it was "neat" if they gave the tier 9/X a derp to. But the gold ammo was overdone. It should give more pen and less high damage like the 152 derps, not same pen and more damage.  As now it can take out tier 8 meds or tier 9 lights if he hits the right spot with one shot. Or even tier 7 HT's if top tier if he gets the rear or side.



leggasiini #14 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:16 PM

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The derps on Type 4/5, if they actually need to stay in the game (which IMO they shouldn't), should be more like the O-Ho derp instead of a land arty gun - favoring RoF and gun handling over massive alpha damage. Giving it 950 HE damage and then around 25% better gun stats than the O-Ho would be way to go IMO rather than the current abomination. Give it an AP shell with 750 alpha and 180 pen. With lower HE damage you actually need to aim at proper spots to do effectively more damage. Combine that with an alternative ammo round type to use for example, overmatching, the derp gun would be bit more skill-based than it is now. 

 

I dont find the tier 7-8 problematic at all. The O-I is annoying but it has been shafted quite a few times now and only way to properly fix it is to majorly buff it and bump it to tier 7. Do the same for the O-I Exp, add a new tier 5 and then make the O-Ni a premium vehicle. O-I Experimental is now balanced as well so there is that.

 

So in nutshell they need to remove or at least severely tweak the derp gun on the Type 4/5. The AP guns from tier 6-10 need all around buffings, especially at tier 9 and 10. Making them actually viable would make less people use derp guns.



IncandescentGerbil #15 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:51 PM

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The thing about the Type5 is that it is fun to play. You get to eat as many sandwiches in a typical battle as even the cuddliest arty player, and annoy those same munchkins by just sitting there and laughing at their pitiful attempts to damage you.
But then you get in a game where the opposition has learned to count to 2, at which point you realise that its armour is not everything it is claimed to be.
Best solution with OP tanks is probably to get one yourself. If nothing else, it will show you how vulnerable they can actually be.

sgtYester #16 Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:25 PM

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good, these heavy derps are there to counter all the op and broken prem tanks that cant be penned normally.  also to kill the overbuffed is7

 

they are huge, slow, and easy to flank.  just ignore them and later shoot them in the [edited].  

 

and u will spot them and know where they are.  how about these skykmonkeys that can hit u from unspotted form the other side of the map. 

 

i guess u want to pen any tank frontally.... gg ur playing it wrong



Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #17 Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:54 PM

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View PostThebaldEagle, on 08 October 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

And i am sick of the whiners here on forum.

Nerf this tank

Buff this tank

bad MM ( ok thats a ok one )

Name and shamers

 

 

So don't go to the forum :)

Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #18 Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:58 PM

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To be honest, playing the Type 4 is some kind of simple mode. Except sometimes opponents make it too easy... they keep on fighting the type 4 frontally, which they're gonna lose, unless you have a great gun and enough armour or speed to take or avoid the hits.

At the moment it's the tank that makes sure I keep my sanity while grinding through the Tortoise. So bear me for now :) 

I probably will never unlock the Type 5 though, because that feels too much like cheating.



vasilinhorulezz #19 Posted 08 October 2017 - 06:14 PM

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We all are, but if everyone, who got derped by a Type 5 made a post about it, the forum would probably crash!:)

Bordhaw #20 Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:58 PM

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Wait til the Japanese super heavy TD's arrive...




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