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_LUL_ #1 Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:06 AM

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i don't even know why the 2nd shot didn't pen...  i had to pay 2 win



BravelyRanAway #2 Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:18 AM

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You mean you don't buy Gold ammo using credits?:amazed:

RamRaid90 #3 Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:31 AM

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:facepalm:

 

Doesnt understand the word "Random"...

 

Claims "Rigging" instead...

 

Watched the video, you're hitting the armour at an effective angle of around 60-70 degrees...the vast majorty of shots there will bounce. Since the Defender has 55mm roof armour you cannot overmatch so you always run the risk of a ricochet at extreme angles.

 

In future watch your own video before posting and it's fairly obvious straight away.

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Edited by RamRaid90, 08 October 2017 - 10:38 AM.


_LUL_ #4 Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:53 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 08 October 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

:facepalm:

 

Doesnt understand the word "Random"...

 

Claims "Rigging" instead...

 

Watched the video, you're hitting the armour at an effective angle of around 60-70 degrees...the vast majorty of shots there will bounce. Since the Defender has 55mm roof armour you cannot overmatch so you always run the risk of a ricochet at extreme angles.

 

In future watch your own video before posting and it's fairly obvious straight away.

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so u say it's pay 2 win , right? cause i had to load apcr 

BravelyRanAway #5 Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:58 AM

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View Post_LUL_, on 08 October 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

so u say it's pay 2 win , right? cause i had to load apcr 

 

No...you say it's pay to win even though you didn't spend a cent to do it.

RamRaid90 #6 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:03 PM

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View Post_LUL_, on 08 October 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

so u say it's pay 2 win , right? cause i had to load apcr 

 

No, again watch your own video.

 

First shell, hit the top of the commanders hatch, angle between 60/70 degrees = auto bounce.

 

Second shell, hit the top of the turret, effective angle between 60/70 degrees = auto bounce.

 

Third shell hit the FRONT of the commanders hatch, effective angle between 10/20 degrees = penetration, even with a standard shell.


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_LUL_ #7 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:03 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 08 October 2017 - 11:58 AM, said:

 

No...you say it's pay to win even though you didn't spend a cent to do it.

 

you don't get it , don't u ? i would have to load more often prem ammo to pen a defender than the defender has to pen me in my t32, and u can just buy the defender with real money even if u suck d*ck , that sounds p2w to me, but i guess you're too ignorant to realize that 

_LUL_ #8 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:06 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 08 October 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

 

No, again watch your own video.

 

First shell, hit the top of the commanders hatch, angle between 60/70 degrees = auto bounce.

 

Second shell, hit the top of the turret, effective angle between 60/70 degrees = auto bounce.

 

Third shell hit the FRONT of the commanders hatch, effective angle between 10/20 degrees = penetration, even with a standard shell.

 

i don't f care at which angle i hit , all i do care is that this tank is a premium tank and u can buy it with real money, which makes it pay 2 win, do u understand that? or you're also too ignorant ?

CoDiGGo #9 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:06 PM

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Ricochet. Defender p2w true

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ThebaldEagle #10 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:08 PM

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All we say is not P2W what all are thinking is Typical reroller whine. have a nice sunday

BravelyRanAway #11 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:08 PM

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View Post_LUL_, on 08 October 2017 - 11:03 AM, said:

 

you don't get it , don't u ? i would have to load more often prem ammo to pen a defender than the defender has to pen me in my t32, and u can just buy the defender with real money even if u suck d*ck , that sounds p2w to me, but i guess you're too ignorant to realize that 

 

Again.....how much cash did you spend on Gold ammo?

_LUL_ #12 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:13 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 08 October 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

 

Again.....how much cash did you spend on Gold ammo?

 

i think you're actually ... i don't wanna say it cause it will get edited by mods 

 

u don't seem to get the point though , imma have to end our discussion here cause you're a lost cause 



BravelyRanAway #13 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:20 PM

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View Post_LUL_, on 08 October 2017 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

i think you're actually ... i don't wanna say it cause it will get edited by mods 

 

u don't seem to get the point though , imma have to end our discussion here cause you're a lost cause 

Sure....get salty over a simple question.

I've play since beta and have never spent cash on Gold ammo....ever. That is just a simple fact.

I also have a second account on which I have never spent any cash at all.....I've even used Gold ammo now and again with no cash spent.

Now....answer the question....how much cash have you spent on Gold ammo?



HidesHisFace #14 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:29 PM

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This guy is really dense, isn't he?

 

While it is true that defender is OP crap that should be nerfed, the situation presented here is nothing else but the lack of basic understanding of game mechanics on player's end - nothing more. 

 

At this angle, he would bounce of a Tier V KV-1 with this gun. It has nothing to do with any pay2win crap at this stage.



_LUL_ #15 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:29 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 08 October 2017 - 12:20 PM, said:

Sure....get salty over a simple question.

I've play since beta and have never spent cash on Gold ammo....ever. That is just a simple fact.

I also have a second account on which I have never spent any cash at all.....I've even used Gold ammo now and again with no cash spent.

Now....answer the question....how much cash have you spent on Gold ammo?

 

make a simple test , make an account on which u buy credits and gold from the shop and u run premium account and make another free to play account on which u won't spend a dime, reach on both accounts on tier 8 or even 10

 

on the p2w account since u buy credits from the shop you can literally spam premium ammo and use prem consumables (for credits) on all of your tanks , it will be expensive af though but np , you're rich , u have money and you can buy endless credit bundles from the WG website 

 

on the 2nd account you're poor, u run standard consumables and you can barely shoot a couple of prem ammo , especially on tier 10 cause you'll be broke in no time

 

now if those 2 account meet each other in game, the p2w and the f2p account, i bet your [edited]that the p2w account will have a huge advantage over the f2p one

 

let's take maus for example , both account meet each other in  a t10 battle, both mauses face to face, the skill of the player is the same, the tanks are the same but only one thing differs , the type of ammo, the p2w account will spam apcr , the f2p one maybe will shoot a couple here and there cause it's expensive for him, after the battle the f2p account will have to play 5-10 games in a tier 5 tank to make up for the credit loss for shooting apcr in his maus , meanwhile the p2w account just leaves the battle after he's done and joins another t10 match where he can enjoy spamming prem ammo

 

i hove i've been clear with my explanation , if you guy are actually too ignorant to understand and keep funding this p2w game, then i'm sorry for you guys cause you work and spend money and this game

 

end of discussion , have "fun" in battles 



_LUL_ #16 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:30 PM

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View PostHidesHisFace, on 08 October 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

This guy is really dense, isn't he?

 

While it is true that defender is OP crap that should be nerfed, the situation presented here is nothing else but the lack of basic understanding of game mechanics on player's end - nothing more. 

 

At this angle, he would bounce of a Tier V KV-1 with this gun. It has nothing to do with any pay2win crap at this stage.

 

bounce a kv-1 at that angle? test it and send me the replay , please do it

Mike_Mckay #17 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:33 PM

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HE is the cheapest ammo and that would have done damage too as well as being more likely to incapacitate crew members and destroy modules


I also don't see the advantage of having a premium account as "P2W" either tbh, more like playing for free is just an endless "free trial", and premium is the equivalent of buying the game


Would you prefer that the "free trial" only lasted for a month and the game cost £50? Because personally I would tbh as I think the game would be a lot better if they ONLY made money if people got the game as a one off purchase as it wouldn't get by being an endless ongoing beta

Edited by Mike_Mckay, 08 October 2017 - 12:38 PM.


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View Post_LUL_, on 08 October 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

 

waffle

The simple question is the sword......and there's you dancing around it......such a simple question.



RamRaid90 #19 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:36 PM

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View Post_LUL_, on 08 October 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

 

bounce a kv-1 at that angle? test it and send me the replay , please do it

 

Unless you can triple overmatch the armor (your gun caliber is more than 3x the nominal thickness of the plate you hit) you will ALWAYS richochet at 70 degrees.

 

The KV-1 has 40mm of roof armour, you need a 121mm or more gun to T.O.M, you would also have bounced off the roof of the KV-1 at the same angle with the T32.

 

 


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Kartoshkaya #20 Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:39 PM

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Learn game mechanics before complaining.

 







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