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TeddyMosby #1 Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:20 AM

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Seriously the worst tank I've ever played how has this not been looked at for getting a buff? 

 

Idk might just be the win rate lately but wtf this is so bad it's got literally 0 camo I'm spotted from full view distance away 

 

Gun is mediocre at best like wow worst prem tank I've bought or am I just poo in this tank? And it's good



StinkyStonky #2 Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:29 AM

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You didn't buy it in the recent "Tier VIII Piece of crap of the week" did you ?

 

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/646277-tier-viii-of-the-week-fcm-50-t/page__p__14850677#entry14850677



qpranger #3 Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:39 AM

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I like this tank on the enemy team.

TeddyMosby #4 Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:42 AM

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No I had it already and never play the thing it sucks so bad but just wtf it needs putting in tier 6 that thing

SirTogII #5 Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:44 AM

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200 dpm buff and sort out the soft stats on the gun, then I'll play it again

G_U_N_D_A_M #6 Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:51 AM

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KillingJoker #7 Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:05 PM

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i think Its a decent/nice tier 8 medium...

 

fairly accurate 90mm gun, with 212 penetration (not many tier 8 mediums have better than this pen with AP)

top speed 50, 18 hp/t ration makes it really mobile, again, not many tier 8 mediums have this sort of mobility! 

8 degrees of gun depression wich is more than enough to work some ridge lines

 

excelent ammunition capacity, 91 shells, you can basicly have 20 or 30 premium rounds shells and other 20 or 30 HE shells if you wish... 

 

according to the Tanks.gg the terrain resistances arent bad as well...

 

so please, before you say anything else about the FCM, 50 T, just make sure you dont play it like a heavy tank...

 

because its not a heavy tank! 

 

https://tanks.gg/com...-34-3~pvictoria

 


Edited by KillingJoker, 09 October 2017 - 12:20 PM.


Matankiller #8 Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:31 PM

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FCM 50 is fast with good gun, but is just to big and easy a target for the little armour it has.

 

Problem of playing it like a medium is your team becomes short 1 heavy tank in the places where it needs heavies.

 

Traded mine in the last trade-in for a T-54 Mod.1...very nice tank.

Latter this month going to trade-in my IS-6 for a STA-2.


Edited by Matankiller, 09 October 2017 - 12:33 PM.


SirTogII #9 Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:34 PM

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It used to be one of the best and most fun premiums. Problem is that back then, the worst thing you fought were an IS3/IS6 and occasionally you had to flee from an E75 but that was it. The gunhandling sucked [edited]back then too but 212 was enough to go through most things even if you did miss the weak spots.
Now, in a regular match you will face 5 tier 9's where Mauschen and Type4 didn't exist before. Emil2 with impenetrable turret faces you at the ridge, but ok, it was never good at tier 9. At tier 8 tho...well you face VK100P, Defender, Patriot, Lorraine, Skorpion, 3 new good premium TDs that will outspot you everyday of the week even with your 400m base view range. Even the medium tanks that you used to eat for breakfast have been buffed so no longer will you pen their turrets and the gunhandling effectively means you're screwed trying to hit cupolas and such.

I think it's sad, it's so far away from what it used to be, and it was never OP even though the unicorns could perform magic in it. 200dpm and soft stats on gun would make it playable.  

magkiln #10 Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:50 PM

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View PostMatankiller, on 09 October 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

Problem of playing it like a medium is your team becomes short 1 heavy tank in the places where it needs heavies.

 

Latter this month going to trade-in my IS-6 for a STA-2.

 

They're down a heavy anyway, because there is no way to play the FCM as a typical heavy. On the other hand, they've gained a flanker wth good mobility. STA-2 is interesting. Not a great tank, but it can be very effective. Unfortunately, with the buff to the FV4202, the STA seems to be falling behind.


Edited by magkiln, 03 December 2017 - 01:42 PM.


SuperOlsson #11 Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:51 PM

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View PostKillingJoker, on 09 October 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

i think Its a decent/nice tier 8 medium...

 

fairly accurate 90mm gun, with 212 penetration (not many tier 8 mediums have better than this pen with AP)

top speed 50, 18 hp/t ration makes it really mobile, again, not many tier 8 mediums have this sort of mobility!

8 degrees of gun depression wich is more than enough to work some ridge lines

 

excelent ammunition capacity, 91 shells, you can basicly have 20 or 30 premium rounds shells and other 20 or 30 HE shells if you wish...

 

according to the Tanks.gg the terrain resistances arent bad as well...

 

so please, before you say anything else about the FCM, 50 T, just make sure you dont play it like a heavy tank...

 

because its not a heavy tank!

 

https://tanks.gg/com...-34-3~pvictoria

 

 

What kills the FCM is the horrendous aim time, and with aim time i mean its horrible soft stats not shown in-game or when it's advertised.

Edited by SuperOlsson, 09 October 2017 - 01:53 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #12 Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:14 PM

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The only thing that could get a bit of adjustment is the soft stats of the gun, it's a snapshot tank and the gun doesn't cooperate very well, other than that I think it's decent. Most likely, the introduction of the Liberte made it less appealing to the playerbase.

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View PostSuperOlsson, on 09 October 2017 - 01:51 PM, said:

 

What kills the FCM is the horrendous aim time, and with aim time i mean its horrible soft stats not shown in-game or when it's advertised.

your kidding right?

 

the FCM gets the best aimtime compared to all these premium tier 8  mediums

 

2.21 aim time is bad? its better than every other premium tank...

check this comparison https://tanks.gg/com...-34-3~pvictoria

 

and you can use vertical stablizers and gun laying drives and drop it to some ridiculous numbers....

 



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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 09 October 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

The only thing that could get a bit of adjustment is the soft stats of the gun, it's a snapshot tank and the gun doesn't cooperate very well, other than that I think it's decent. Most likely, the introduction of the Liberte made it less appealing to the playerbase.

 

FFS the liberte can be easly hit by a player who knows its weakpoints....

 

the side is cheese, and its a very tall tank, he cant angle what so ever his tank, otherwise will get pened, and if is not angled a tank with a decent crew with 0.36 acuracy like the fcm wont have trouble in hitting the commander coppula... 

 

still... if you play the FCM properly, you wont see tanks like the libertee frontaly so often, but much more their sides...

 

The FCM have every features of a medium tank, plus, it gets better health, 1500 hit points... despite its considered a heavy, your hull traverse is better than many other tier 8 mediums... 

 

and the best thing about the FCM when i check his stats was by far, the ammunition price, 255 credits per shell is a bargain... seriously, this tank should be an excelent money maker...

 

Im seriously considering buying the FCM, since i have a spared medium tank french crew waiting in the garage. 



RiflemanThick #15 Posted 09 October 2017 - 03:06 PM

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FCM 50 t is my favorite heavy t8 tank to farm it's HP.. Why would anyone buy it instead of AMX CDC, makes no sense to me..

I mean look to T26E5 then look to it xD



Obsessive_Compulsive #16 Posted 09 October 2017 - 03:10 PM

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Mine has sat in my garage like a second hand blow up doll for some time now.. discarded soiled yet somehow endearing in a way that prevents me from selling it..

 

Gone are the days of 6k+ damage carries.... a distant slightly fishy memory...



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View PostKillingJoker, on 09 October 2017 - 02:48 PM, said:

your kidding right?

 

the FCM gets the best aimtime compared to all these premium tier 8  mediums

 

2.21 aim time is bad? its better than every other premium tank...

check this comparison https://tanks.gg/com...-34-3~pvictoria

 

and you can use vertical stablizers and gun laying drives and drop it to some ridiculous numbers....

 

 

You do notice pretty much every tank on that list has much better turret and moving dispersion modifiers right? With the ones that don't having better accuracy making their overall aiming better anyway. 

 

Aimtime is a meme stat, dispersion and it's modifiers are what truly make a tank feel accurate and able to snap. Hence why the Is-3 is so ridiculous as it has a way better turret traverse modifier than any medium on that list and most meds at tier 10, making it's 3.26s aimtime largely irrelevant since the bloom almost never gets to max out. 


Edited by HeathLedger_, 09 October 2017 - 04:07 PM.


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View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 09 October 2017 - 02:10 PM, said:

Gone are the days of 6k+ damage carries....

 

Those were the days when it's Pref MM meant something and it regularly saw tier 6s.

 

Those 6k carries must have raked the cash in (it has/had a great credit multiplier).  When I bought it, it was the #1 credit earner on vbaddicts.  Now it's #25.  That's what happens when it sees tier 9 almost every game.



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View PostHeathLedger_, on 09 October 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

 

You do notice pretty much every tank on that list has much better turret and moving dispersion modifiers right? With the ones that don't having better accuracy making their overall aiming better anyway. 

 

Aimtime is a meme stat, dispersion and it's modifiers are what truly make a tank feel accurate and able to snap. Hence why the Is-3 is so ridiculous as it has a way better turret traverse modifier than any medium on that list and most meds at tier 10, making it's 3.26s aimtime largely irrelevant since the bloom almost never gets to max out. 

 

even comparing the dispersion values with all of the examples i gave you, the FCM have overall a medium tank gun handling... 

 

its certainly not a superb gun handling, but its agile enough to let any player operate the tank as well as any other medium, 

 

 

 



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View PostStinkyStonky, on 09 October 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

 

Those were the days when it's Pref MM meant something and it regularly saw tier 6s.

 

Those 6k carries must have raked the cash in (it has/had a great credit multiplier).  When I bought it, it was the #1 credit earner on vbaddicts.  Now it's #25.  That's what happens when it sees tier 9 almost every game.

To be honest the big games where in tier 9 mm where an open map enabled full use of the view range and the mobility. My replays are lost to quicky fegs archives.. I recall one game with over 7k damage and a loss netted 190k+

 

Still it was possible to get steel walls on the thing when top tier simply by going with mediums and laughing at cromwells. It only needs a dpm buff and a bit of soft stats on the dispersion to be back in the game. I have 6 skill crew on mine and it still feels gimped.






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