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What do you think will happen to T-10?

  1. WG is gona make it a reward tank like Fosh (7 votes [13.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.73%

  2. Its going to be tire 8 premium tank (9 votes [17.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

  3. 2 line from IS 3 to get IS-7 or something (25 votes [49.02%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 49.02%

  4. It will be removed completely(no reward or prem tank) (10 votes [19.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.61%

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stevek34 #1 Posted 10 October 2017 - 04:16 PM

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So I'm curious what do you guys think will happen. It is a little bit early to talk about this tank but who cares. I hope we will get the tank free like it was with Fosh.

Balc0ra #2 Posted 10 October 2017 - 04:24 PM

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View Poststevek34, on 10 October 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

 I hope we will get the tank free like it was with Fosh.

 

You won't. As of now, it won't be removed from the tech tree like the 155. It will be replaced and relocated like the Maus was.

 

The idea is that now the IS-3 and IS-7 are assault HT's, T-10 is not. Thus the 257 will make the line more consistent. The T-10 will move to a new more mobile HT line going parallel or starting from the IS-3. What other tanks will be there? That we don't know yet. 



tajj7 #3 Posted 10 October 2017 - 04:27 PM

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Not even sure this story is accurate so far but from what they are saying the 257 would replace the T-10 as a more natural successor of the IS3 and before the IS7, the T-10 then would have it's own mini-branch so you precedent point would be what happened to the Maus/Panzer VII lines, not what happened with the Foch and is planned to happen with the 215b and 215b 183. 

 

EDIT:

 

Comes down to whether they just switch the 257 and T-10 and then the T-10 gets it's own line at a later date or whether the T-10 gets put in the new line at the same point, then you'd get the Mauschen, VKB situation where if you were grinding towards the tier 10, that tier 10 basically changed. But if you have the tier 10 unlocked (in this case the IS7) you'd have the T-10 with the ability to grind the new tier 10 AND you'd have the 257 researched (because it would now proceeds the IS7)


Edited by tajj7, 10 October 2017 - 07:49 PM.


Balc0ra #4 Posted 10 October 2017 - 04:31 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 10 October 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

If you have a T-10 you'll get the 257 instead and you'll have to grind the T-10 from whatever new point they put it on, possibly the IS. 

 

Yeah that's what I'm guessing. Just like the German split from the Tiger P. Question is tho, will they do the same as with the German line when they moved the Maus? If you have the tier X or the T-10. Will you get the tier 8 at least or most of the line unlocked? Or will you have to grind XP from the IS again regardless.

stevek34 #5 Posted 10 October 2017 - 04:36 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 October 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

 

You won't. As of now, it won't be removed from the tech tree like the 155. It will be replaced and relocated like the Maus was.

 

The idea is that now the IS-3 and IS-7 are assault HT's, T-10 is not. Thus the 257 will make the line more consistent. The T-10 will move to a new more mobile HT line going parallel or starting from the IS-3. What other tanks will be there? That we don't know yet. 

There may be a chance for Object 777 that would be awesome.

View Posttajj7, on 10 October 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

Not even sure this story is accurate so far but from what they are saying the 257 would replace the T-10 as a more natural successor of the IS3 and before the IS7, the T-10 then would have it's own mini-branch so you precedent point would be what happened to the Maus/Panzer VII lines, not what happened with the Foch and is planned to happen with the 215b and 215b 183. 

 

If you have a T-10 you'll get the 257 instead and you'll have to grind the T-10 from whatever new point they put it on, possibly the IS. 

That's what I was afraid of that I have to grid it from IS. IS is not a problem for me because I fa**ing love that tank but it would be nice to... you know have it unlocked for free.



Lord_Edge #6 Posted 10 October 2017 - 04:40 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 10 October 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

If you have a T-10 you'll get the 257 instead and you'll have to grind the T-10 from whatever new point they put it on, possibly the IS. 

 

Urrgh, that sucks, though on the plus side you could sell the 257 to help fund the T-10 so only the XP that needs re-grinding.



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View Posttajj7, on 10 October 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

If you have a T-10 you'll get the 257 instead and you'll have to grind the T-10 from whatever new point they put it on, possibly the IS. 

 

I seriously doubt this. Dit VK B owners get a Mauschen instead and lose the VK? I can't remember, but I find it hard to believe.

 

In any case, I want to keep my T-10 and don't want that ugly 257 bastard. 



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View Posttajj7, on 10 October 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

Not even sure this story is accurate so far but from what they are saying the 257 would replace the T-10 as a more natural successor of the IS3 and before the IS7, the T-10 then would have it's own mini-branch so you precedent point would be what happened to the Maus/Panzer VII lines, not what happened with the Foch and is planned to happen with the 215b and 215b 183. 

 

If you have a T-10 you'll get the 257 instead and you'll have to grind the T-10 from whatever new point they put it on, possibly the IS. 

 

Normally when this happens we get both, the new tank and the old tank.

 

See also:

IS-4 (t9)=>IS8 (t9) + IS-4 (t10)

T34 (T9)=>M103 (t9) + T34 (t8 prem) (this is how I got mine)

Foch(155) => FochB + Foch(155) "premium"

 

etc.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 10 October 2017 - 05:00 PM.


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View PostAuroraBoreaIis, on 10 October 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

 

I seriously doubt this. Dit VK B owners get a Mauschen instead and lose the VK? I can't remember, but I find it hard to believe.

 

In any case, I want to keep my T-10 and don't want that ugly 257 bastard. 

 

Vkb owners kept vkb but didn't receive Mauschen iirc. That's why I was in a hurry to grind Maus before the patch hit (So I didn't have to grind a entirely new line).

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View PostAuroraBoreaIis, on 10 October 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

 

I seriously doubt this. Dit VK B owners get a Mauschen instead and lose the VK? I can't remember, but I find it hard to believe.

 

In any case, I want to keep my T-10 and don't want that ugly 257 bastard. 

 

+1

The gun is great and a lot of people have a hard time dealing with it when you play it hull down, so I'd rather play T-10 then the 257 piece of trash. Armor might be better, but I'd never give up that gun handling and alpha for that!!

 

btw.. "WG is gona make it a reward tank like Fosh"  ??? Foch is not a reward tank, but simply a "special" tank. It's not like you can win tanks like Foch and FV215B in the future. You either unlock and buy it, or never get it.


Edited by Bennie182, 10 October 2017 - 05:10 PM.


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View PostAuroraBoreaIis, on 10 October 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

 

I seriously doubt this. Dit VK B owners get a Mauschen instead and lose the VK? I can't remember, but I find it hard to believe.

 

In any case, I want to keep my T-10 and don't want that ugly 257 bastard. 

 

VK B owners got nothing but a new tier X to unlock. If you had the tier X unlocked.. as in the Maus before the line changed. You still got to keep the VK B, but had the 2 new tanks unlocked in the tech tree. And a new tier X to unlock from the VK B. You did not get neither the Vk 100.01 or Mauschen added to your garage if you had the Maus prior to the unlock.

 

I suspect if they do move the T-10 to a new line, you will still get to keep it. Question is what happens to the tier 8 that will appear before it on the new line if you already have an elite T-10 etc. As in it's research status.

 



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Basically anyone grinding towards the IS7 at the time of the switch will find themselves grinding towards the 'new' tier 10 they are going to put after the T-10, not the IS7. 

 

That is IF they have the new line ready, from the way they are talking it looks more likely that the T-10 will just go away for a bit until it's line is ready and the 257 will just replace it. 


Edited by tajj7, 10 October 2017 - 07:46 PM.


Rimsplitter #13 Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:44 PM

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If the T-10 disappears then I'd better get my permapaint and emblems back.

arthurwellsley #14 Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:49 PM

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http://tankarchives....first-is-7.html

 

I would vote for a new mini line, so that the T10 remained at tier IX, and the tier X could be the Object 279

 

Of course after T10M the USSR produced two more tanks, both more powerful than T10M. They were Object 268 and Object 777.

 

Both the 268 and 777 are already modelled in the game files (and sold on the CH server)

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Derethim #15 Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:19 PM

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I actually think it's gonna be made a tier VIII premium tank. As-is. The only thing, that will change statswise, is HP.

And it's going to have the worst HP out of all tier VIII heavy tanks ... by five points. Because balance. :trollface:


Edited by Derethim, 10 October 2017 - 10:20 PM.


HundeWurst #16 Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:45 PM

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Who cares? However the last option aint going to happen. I guess WGs move will be to reintroduce it as a tier 8 premium. Just nerf the HP down to tier 8 average and call it a day because why not? Make some more cash that way, and another nail in the coffin.

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View PostRimsplitter, on 10 October 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

If the T-10 disappears then I'd better get my permapaint and emblems back.

 

If it gets moved, you will. If it gets removed. It will go to the new tank, like the 155 did on the Foch B. But considering the possible tier X have been on super test for years, so the new line might be more complete then we think. Even more so if it's just an IS-3 split vs an IS split that it might be.

 

View Posttajj7, on 10 October 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

 

That is IF they have the new line ready, from the way they are talking it looks more likely that the T-10 will just go away for a bit until it's line is ready and the 257 will just replace it. 

Even if it goes "away". I suspect it will only be from the tech tree. I guess those that already own it will get to still drive theirs. If not then that's a first.



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View PostWunderWurst, on 10 October 2017 - 10:45 PM, said:

Just nerf the HP down to tier 8 average and call it a day because why not? Make some more cash that way, and another nail in the coffin.

 

Because if the T-10 was reduced to a tier 8 premium then it would require removal of it's historical gun, which would result in the completely bizarre situation where the best/most advanced HT the USSR ever produced it is a tier 8 piece of junk using an IS-3 gun, while it's actual gun is present on the vastly inferior (yet higher tier in game) IS-4 (which used an IS-2 gun) to make it competitive.



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 10 October 2017 - 09:49 PM, said:

Of course after T10M the USSR produced two more tanks, both more powerful than T10M. They were Object 268 and Object 777.

 

The Object 268 was a TD based on the T-10 hull (and is in game as a tier X TD), the Object 777 was a HT that competed with the T-10 design but never entered production.  Both preceded the T-10M.






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