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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 13 October 2017 - 05:49 PM

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https://thearmoredpa...branch-changes/

 

 

Changes are inbound for the pancake medium branch of the USSR. All stats are subject to change.

 

A-44

Tier: MT-VII, USSR
HP: 1100
Max. speed forwards/backwards: 59 / -20 km/h
Traverse speed: 44 °/s
Turret traverse speed: 38 °/s
View range: 370 m

Hull armor: 150 / 60 / 60
Turret armor: 90 / 90 / 90

Damage: 300 / 300 / 360
Penetration: 167 / 184 / 54
Reload time: 10.5 s
Accuracy: 0,42
Aim time: 3.0 s

 

Object 430 Version II

Tier: MT-VIII, USSR
HP: 1450
Max. speed forwards/backwards: 45 / -18 km/h
Traverse speed: 44 °/s
Turret traverse speed: 35 °/s
View range: 370 m

Hull armor: 120 / 80 / 40
Turret armor: 223 / 166 / 63

Damage: 390 / 390 / 530
Penetration: 202 / 270 / 61
Reload time: 13.8 s
Accuracy: 0,42
Aim time: 2.9 s

 

Object 430

Tier: MT-IX, USSR
HP: 1800
Max. speed forwards/backwards: 50 / -18 km/h
Traverse speed: 52 °/s
Turret traverse speed: 38 °/s
View range: 380 m

Hull armor: 120 / 80 / 40
Turret armor: 248 / 185 / 63

Damage: 390 / 390 / 530
Penetration: 238 / 248 / 61
Reload time: 9.7 s
Accuracy: 0,42
Aim time: 2.5 s

 

 

Object 430U

Tier: MT-X, USSR
HP: 2000
Max. speed forwards/backwards: 50 / -18 km / h
Traverse speed: 52 °/s
Turret traverse speed: 38 °/s
View range: 400 m

Hull armor: 160 / 90 / 45
Turret armor: 300 / 195 / 65

Damage: 440 / 440 / 530
Penetration: 252 / 340 / 68
Reload time: 10.2 s
Accuracy: 0,4
Aim time: 2,3 s

 


Edited by Search_Warrant, 13 October 2017 - 06:06 PM.


Sfinski #2 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:03 PM

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Thanks but I already have 121. Dont need another one. 

Search_Warrant #3 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:06 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 13 October 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

Thanks but I already have 121. Dont need another one. 

 

But tis RUSSIAN so its BETTER conrad :P

Kooallu #4 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:08 PM

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so WG remove obj416 and make it prerium with unique camo

soul3ater #5 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:10 PM

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what the hell!

 

I have got the 430 II on my way to 430. I was putting it off for a long time but now might be tempted to actually try to get to tier 10,

 

what's the point of this change? correct if I am wrong but the current 430 has the highest dpm so giving it the same gun as 121 doesn't make the tank anything special. unless it has way too good soft stats.


Edited by soul3ater, 13 October 2017 - 06:14 PM.


DuncaN_101 #6 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:10 PM

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Question is how are they going to change this?

I got the frying pan and the 430... What am I going to end up with? 


Edited by DuncaN_101, 13 October 2017 - 06:11 PM.


brumbarr #7 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:12 PM

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So they  want to make the russian meds different by makign them the same as chinese heavys/meds?

leggasiini #8 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:13 PM

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Im curious what is gonna happen for the Object 416... I guess it might become to a TD probably for a new line maybe. or new premium

 

inb4 taran as tier 10



Uebergewicht #9 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:18 PM

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So they change the line, knock the back turrets to tiers 7 and 8, and have a medium line with heavy tank guns starting from tier 7? And what happens to the 416?

NUKLEAR_SLUG #10 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:22 PM

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416 is so going premium. :P

Aikl #11 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:25 PM

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Some of those penetration figures look really funky at best. T7 and T9 in particular, premium ammo gives +20 and +10mm penetration respectively? Sure it's gonna be enough penetration, but with the utterly backwards approach to weakspot removals and whatnot it'll be a pain. I guess an A-44 just isn't meant to deal with a VK100.01P unless it flanks...

leggasiini #12 Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:30 PM

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...why does the tier 9 have like 22 mm worse premium pen than the tier 8? Lol? I do not really see the point of this change. So instead of being semi-clone of other tier 10 russkies it is now semi-clone of 121. Ehh? Also turret layout goes mid -> rear -> rear -> mid -> mid (tier 6-10). Doesn't really make sense to me, especially considering that they are now generalizing the top tiers of the branches making them more consistent. 

 

If they wanted to make it truly unique, they should have bumped the Object 430 II as a tier 10, give it a big gun (probably even a bigger gun than a 121, like 490 alpha or something) but as a tradeoff, crap depression and limited turret traverse. If anything, the STG should have been used as a tier 9, but its already a premium so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Then again, I am pretty sure there still are some spare rear-turretted Russian designs in archives (probs related to obj 416 development or something).

 

EDIT: So A-44 gets prem ammo nerf? Lol, lmao


Edited by leggasiini, 13 October 2017 - 06:31 PM.


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I dont get it ether. its basically china mediums Version2. who bets the rear turret tanks get 6 gundep? or heck. -10 the way WG are going nowadays.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 13 October 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

I dont get it ether. its basically china mediums Version2. who bets the rear turret tanks get 6 gundep? or heck. -10 the way WG are going nowadays.

 

Inb4 they go full a full cycle and implement 100 mm guns for Chinese MTs :trollface::trollface::trollface:

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View Postleggasiini, on 13 October 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

 

Inb4 they go full a full cycle and implement 100 mm guns for Chinese MTs :trollface::trollface::trollface:

 

You mean a fake china medium line? oh wait im pretty sure the lines already fake we have in game :P

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Eh, Honestly i like this change.

 

No point in having the 430. Way my T62A is set up i have a 5.2 sec reload with far better accuracy and turret armour. Losing all that accuracy for just 0.2 better reload isnt worth it and the reason its gathered dust in my garage. And no point playing it over the 140 seeing as 140 has better hull armour and better turret now..

 

It needed to be different


Edited by xx984, 13 October 2017 - 07:16 PM.


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View Postxx984, on 13 October 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

Eh, Honestly i like this change.

 

No point in having the 430. Way my T62A is set up i have a 5.2 sec reload with far better accuracy and turret armour. Losing all that accuracy for just 0.2 better reload isnt worth it and the reason its gathered dust in my garage. And no point playing it over the 140 seeing as 140 has better hull armour and better turret now..

 

It needed to be different

But it isnt different, its a 113/121.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 13 October 2017 - 06:17 PM, said:

But it isnt different, its a 113/121.

 

121 has better accuracy and reload, but less armour. 

 

Eitherway i should of worded it differently, I like the look of this change so far. 

Gonna wait until its officially announced before i form an opinion 100%

 

Edit-

Also the upper hull armour may not be that effective, Its 160mm but in the picture the angle doesnt look great. Although that may just be the way the picture is


Edited by xx984, 13 October 2017 - 07:22 PM.


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Well 430U will be way better then 121. 300 mm turret front, 195 sides, 160!! upper plate, more then famous E50m!  

By far, 121 look paper in compere. A bit less dpm then 121 and superior armor. Aim time is better too. Dont look bad, and WG will fix it. 

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View Postxx984, on 13 October 2017 - 07:21 PM, said:

 

121 has better accuracy and reload, but less armour. 

 

Eitherway i should of worded it differently, I like the look of this change so far. 

Gonna wait until its officially announced before i form an opinion 100%

 

Edit-

Also the upper hull armour may not be that effective, Its 160mm but in the picture the angle doesnt look great. Although that may just be the way the picture is

 

I know we need to wait for more information, but I dont like the direction of this change.

Really, how much different can they make if from a 113 or 121. And I dont mean useless differences like a bit of speed here, some rof there and some gunhandling there.






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