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Codename_Jelly #1 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:04 AM

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If this is true and this is really getting replaced does anybody know when this will happen, estimated ?

Balc0ra #2 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:17 AM

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It's true, as WG's dev team more or less confirmed it in one of the latest patch videos that the change is coming, and that the 183 will become a special vehicle. When? Well next patch is less then a week away. So I suspect the next after that, around mid December I would guess at the earliest.

xx984 #3 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:21 AM

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Guess i gotta free XP to tortoise and grind the 183, no chance in hell im playing the ones before it. Tortoise doesn't seem half bad however..

Balc0ra #4 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:34 AM

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Well here is the WG confirmation if you were wondering. @ the 3:00 min mark he starts to talk about it. But confirms the special status tank of the 183 at the 3:35 mark.

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 15 October 2017 - 01:35 AM.


Dennyb #5 Posted 15 October 2017 - 03:13 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 15 October 2017 - 12:34 AM, said:

Well here is the WG confirmation if you were wondering. @ the 3:00 min mark he starts to talk about it. But confirms the special status tank of the 183 at the 3:35 mark.

 

I'm going to reinstall the game, buy the 183 then uninstall it again just in case WarGaming gets their craptogether in the future and WoT becomes playable again. Always wanted the 183 and I was just waiting for it to go on sale before I quit so I'll make sure to snag it before it's gone for good.

jack_timber #6 Posted 15 October 2017 - 08:27 AM

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Well I have one but rarely take it out. Wait 25 seconds to load, 4 seconds to aim, boom, shave somewhere between 500 to 1900 hp off, if it doesn't miss, then do it all over again....

Can be a fun tank but can also be a black hole for credits.



tajj7 #7 Posted 15 October 2017 - 08:56 AM

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It's 100% a meme tank, you have to play it with zero expectations, you go into a game and you can basically have games that range from zero damage to like 7k damage with very little input on your side deciding which game you get.

 

If there is any tank I have had more zero damage games in, it's the 183, get a crappy team, fire 3-4 shots RNG trolls you and then the game is over. At the same time it's the easiest tank to do 5k damage in because you can do that with 3 shots. 



KillingJoker #8 Posted 15 October 2017 - 09:24 AM

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I was testing this tank yesterday on the Test server and its so frustrating...

i even used the best crew possible, placed the best percs, and equipment (+12% ones) so i had  the best possible setup..

 

the 0.4 of the gun feel like worse than 0.45 of the 122mm russian gun you get on the IS

the aiming circle is so big at more than 400 meters shots, that even aiming to the middle of the mass target, you tend to fail, its amazingly innacurate for a tank destroyer.... 

specialy one with such low rate of fire. 

 

you could eventualy argument this tank have armor and you need to play them close to the enemy, but no.. the armor is crap anyway, at tier x level only idiots will bounce by shoting the parts of the turret that are fairly protected. 

 

its complete waste of time, and i dont understand this tier X model, it doesnt have anything to do with the Toirtoise and the line in general... perhaps they will bring a super tortoise?(imaging the joke of WG releasing another tank that requires gold to kill... ) 



HundeWurst #9 Posted 15 October 2017 - 09:35 AM

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Yes there are rumors and more often than not these are true as well.

 

So there will be some kind of SuperTortoise replacing the Deathstar. Well the replacement is more accurate than the tank we have ingame right now anyway.

 



redgismo #10 Posted 15 October 2017 - 09:37 AM

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View PostKillingJoker, on 15 October 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

I was testing this tank yesterday on the Test server and its so frustrating...

i even used the best crew possible, placed the best percs, and equipment (+12% ones) so i had  the best possible setup..

 

the 0.4 of the gun feel like worse than 0.45 of the 122mm russian gun you get on the IS

the aiming circle is so big at more than 400 meters shots, that even aiming to the middle of the mass target, you tend to fail, its amazingly innacurate for a tank destroyer.... 

specialy one with such low rate of fire. 

 

you could eventualy argument this tank have armor and you need to play them close to the enemy, but no.. the armor is crap anyway, at tier x level only idiots will bounce by shoting the parts of the turret that are fairly protected. 

 

its complete waste of time, and i dont understand this tier X model, it doesnt have anything to do with the Toirtoise and the line in general... perhaps they will bring a super tortoise?(imaging the joke of WG releasing another tank that requires gold to kill... ) 

 

Hence the reason they are replacing the the Deathstar as it's game play isn't consistent with that of the Tortoise

jack_timber #11 Posted 15 October 2017 - 10:08 AM

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Now a super Tortoise sounds interesting:)

arthurwellsley #12 Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:45 AM

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FV205



xtrem3x #13 Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:49 AM

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Looks like the Tortoise and the T95 had a baby :child:

RiflemanThick #14 Posted 15 October 2017 - 12:12 PM

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Hope they replace FV4005 as well

Bucifel #15 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:09 PM

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View PostRiflemanThick, on 15 October 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

Hope they replace FV4005 as well

 

hope not !

i dont want to grind another line just for that :D



KillingJoker #16 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:11 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 15 October 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

FV205

 

whats the gun caliber?

 

edit (found this online)

 

 

does anyone understand Rusky? 

 

 

 

Tier X Tank Destroyer
Hit Points 2,050
Gun OQF 123mm Mk1
Shell Type APDS Mk I / APDS Mk II / HESH Mk I
Shell Avg. Penetration 272 / 320 / 130 mm
Shell Avg. Damage 420 / 420 / 520
Reload Time 6.81s
Rate of Fire 8.81 rounds per minute
Aiming Time 1.63s
Average Damage per Minute 3,700
Accuracy 0.288
Gun Depression/Elevation Angles -10 / +20
Hull / Gun Traverse Speed 22 / 16.7 deg/s
Top Speed / Reverse Speed 34.3 / 12 km/h
Terrain Resistance  
Hard 1.726
Medium 1.918
Soft 2.877
Hull Armour 304 / 101 / 31 mm
Weight / Max Load 65.0t / 70.0t
Engine Power 950
Specific Power 14.62 hp/t
Concealment of Stationary Vehicle 24.2 %
Concealment of Moving Vehicle 14.5 %
View Range 390 m
Signal Range 782 m
Crew 6

Edited by KillingJoker, 15 October 2017 - 01:14 PM.


KillingJoker #17 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:20 PM

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My toughts on the numbers here:

 

mediocre penetration for a tier X TD', but 271 AP do the job if the player knows where to hit most tanks... very low alpha for a tier X, but good ROF and DPM 

very good accuracy 0.28. 

fairly good cammorating of 28 stacionary... well protected frontaly with 304 hull armor... (is this the thickness or allready the overal effectivness? because its sloped...)

mobility isnt bad either, 14,5

 

I dont get it why a 123mm gun needs 2 loaders to have a 6 crew man... but anyways, perhaps thats only because it will replace the crews of the 183...

 



Balc0ra #18 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:40 PM

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View PostKillingJoker, on 15 October 2017 - 01:20 PM, said:

mediocre penetration for a tier X TD', but 271 AP do the job if the player knows where to hit most tanks... very low alpha for a tier X, but good ROF and DPM

 

And yet 1000 more DPM then most tier X TD's. Foch B has mediocre pen to for a tier X TD. But with 2400 burst damage, 300 pen would be a tad overkill. So would it be with 3700 base DPM, when the Obj with 303 pen has 2700 base dpm.  So I kinda get that. And the Tortoise works wonders with 259 pen, so I suspect this will work to.

 

View PostKillingJoker, on 15 October 2017 - 01:20 PM, said:

I dont get it why a 123mm gun needs 2 loaders to have a 6 crew man... but anyways, perhaps thats only because it will replace the crews of the 183...

 

I suspect they wanted the crew setup to be the same as the 183, so they can directly transfer all the crew like on the 155 vs B etc. Then again the AT-8 has two loaders on a 17 pdr. But like the tier 8 Foch that has two, vs the tier 9/X that has one. Is that they have the 2nd loader in the MG turret on the roof. And they gave him loader skills.


Edited by Balc0ra, 15 October 2017 - 01:44 PM.


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View Posttajj7, on 15 October 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

It's 100% a meme tank, you have to play it with zero expectations, you go into a game and you can basically have games that range from zero damage to like 7k damage with very little input on your side deciding which game you get.

 

If there is any tank I have had more zero damage games in, it's the 183, get a crappy team, fire 3-4 shots RNG trolls you and then the game is over. At the same time it's the easiest tank to do 5k damage in because you can do that with 3 shots. 

 

I think peoples expectations are already low by the time they get up to Tier 10 :D

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View Postxx984, on 15 October 2017 - 12:21 AM, said:

Guess i gotta free XP to tortoise and grind the 183, no chance in hell im playing the ones before it. Tortoise doesn't seem half bad however..

 

Oh you're in for a treat, be prepared to be penned by everything, losing atleast 2 crew members every time.




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