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Mike_Mckay #1 Posted 15 October 2017 - 05:23 AM

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I am not a fan of arty and don't really enjoy playing them, but to get all of the tier 10s at some point I have to knuckle down and work my way through them plus it would start working through the first block of artillery personal missions

So I was curious what lines people would recommend for someone who isn't a fan of them and rarely plays them


The US line seems like a good choice at a first glance, but I was thinking of chipping away at two arty lines whenever there are XP events running or I have XP/crew XP PRs active

So which two arty lines are the most noob/artyphobic friendly? :)

Homer_J #2 Posted 15 October 2017 - 05:29 AM

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Probably US and French although I am enjoying the Hummel right now.

 

Most of the missions revolve around stun which for me the French were better for because they reload faster and don't tend to kill your targets as much.

 

French - fast relocating, fast firing, turrets on the high tiers.

 

US - big hitters, slow reload, wide arc of fire on many of them, mostly not too slow.



Strappster #3 Posted 15 October 2017 - 05:46 AM

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What Homer said. The French are great for relocating quickly but have the least punch tier-for-tier, the US is the line most often recommended as all-rounders. Although the GW Panther is probably all the arty you could need since the introduction of stun - wide gun arc, accurate and decent shell arcs with a quick reload. It's been my go-to arty since Bert was hobbled.



CaptinKatyusha #4 Posted 15 October 2017 - 12:40 PM

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Im not a fan when it comes to artys
I have a m12 and i really hate it (used to be better before the stun change) .. but i suggest to u the french artys .. their reload is fast . And their top speed is nice too
germans r pretty good too

PhooBar #5 Posted 15 October 2017 - 12:55 PM

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'Murrican or German are good but severely nerfed.

Since the stun thing was introduced, don't bother looking for the big hurt anymore.



Tommy_Atkins_Teapot #6 Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:45 PM

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Dear Mike,

Artillery lines recommendation?

"pulls pin and rolls in hand grenade". Just awaiting the avalanche of sky cancer recommendations;)

Not a big arty player, but initially enjoyed the French line up to T4/5 with both being particularly rapid.

Did mericun up to M44 big bangs really, but now grinding the German line to get to GW.

I think the 105 leFH has probably pissed most tankers off, because of sheer rate of fire.

Anyway that's my two penneth 

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Kicky92 #7 Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

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Go French. 

CaptainThunderWalker #8 Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:18 PM

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Depends a bit on the tier I think?

 

I think each arty line has its ups and downs, I think all arty lines have a tier where they outclass the opposition and none of the Tier X arty are actually bad.

However even the weaker arty pieces rarely have bad MM - they do not give a damn about being bottomtier.

 

Arty however, does hate certain maps and spawns, like Mines or Ensk, so there's that, and you get yolo'ed at all tiers on some maps too (hi, Ensk).


Edited by CaptainThunderWalker, 15 October 2017 - 02:21 PM.


tankqull #9 Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

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S-51 -> you can do all missions with it, huhge splash, hughe dmg

easy to grind as branches from a heavy line



Aikl #10 Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:28 PM

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French are really anemic. Pre-rebalance they were OK, and usable as a scout in a pinch. Rebalance made the guns rather weak, made going into the field to provide accurate fire quite pointless - and view range nerf removed the main point of medium tank mobility - filling in as a spotter. That part was rather salty for me; had tons of fun going scouting in the T6 one. I have a patrol duty with 4k-ish spotted somewhere. Shell arc isn't anything to brag about either. Maybe the T10 is worth getting, it tends to be the most annoying one by far (even with low damage and huge clip reload).

Go for the US ones. They can move and have big guns. Soviet ones are slow and have low shell arcs. Brits... well, CGC is the ultimate ...you know what I mean. The rest are quite meh.

(It's generally in everyone's best interest to recommend OP the best SPG line, simply because he'll likely play it less than a shitty one.)

PS: A Netflix subscription helps a ton with enjoying arty gameplay.

Edited by Aikl, 15 October 2017 - 02:30 PM.


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View PostAikl, on 15 October 2017 - 02:28 PM, said:

French are really anemic. Pre-rebalance they were OK, and usable as a scout in a pinch. Rebalance made the guns rather weak, made going into the field to provide accurate fire quite pointless - and view range nerf removed the main point of medium tank mobility - filling in as a spotter. That part was rather salty for me; had tons of fun going scouting in the T6 one. I have a patrol duty with 4k-ish spotted somewhere. Shell arc isn't anything to brag about either. Maybe the T10 is worth getting, it tends to be the most annoying one by far (even with low damage and huge clip reload).

Go for the US ones. They can move and have big guns. Soviet ones are slow and have low shell arcs. Brits... well, CGC is the ultimate ...you know what I mean. The rest are quite meh.

(It's generally in everyone's best interest to recommend OP the best SPG line, simply because he'll likely play it less than a shitty one.)

PS: A Netflix subscription helps a ton with enjoying arty gameplay.

 

I would disagree about French. Right now arty is not only about damage  but about stun as well. And Fr arty provides a fairly decent line with good mobility. 

Tier per tier: 

t6: 

M44 is the real beast. Even if you don't go with US arty line further, you might want to have this one. Even w/o bells and whistles the reload time on it is 20sec (6 sec faster then french). Mine is at 16sec. 
French t6 is a bit of a pain at 26sec reload time. 

T7: 
Both trees are pretty much equal

T8:
The big difference comes here. French is pretty much having same 28 seconds of reload with 750 dmg. US arty M40/43 can be used with stock at 29sec or with better gun but at wooping 44 sec. reload time. In short, tier 8 us arty is a very very painful experience.

As for t9, both trees are fine. M53/55 is still packing quite a punch at reasonable 30-35 reload time, and perhaps still the best t9 arty in the game. But with French BC-155, if you use the stock gun you get reload time 10 sec faster. 

I cant give much advice on T10s since I dont play them.
 

Personally, I have both in the garage.



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View Postvixu, on 15 October 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

As for t9, both trees are fine. M53/55 is still packing quite a punch at reasonable 30-35 reload time, and perhaps still the best t9 arty in the game. But with French BC-155, if you use the stock gun you get reload time 10 sec faster.

 

I think it's worth noting that while the M53/55 has a decent gun arc of 30 degrees each way, the BC arty has a turret. Makes it much easier to adjust aim for moving targets.



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View PostStrappster, on 15 October 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:

 

I think it's worth noting that while the M53/55 has a decent gun arc of 30 degrees each way, the BC arty has a turret. Makes it much easier to adjust aim for moving targets.

 

Yes. true. It is a notable advantage. Still 30 degrees is wide enough to aim comfortably in most cases.

mrmoff10 #14 Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:24 AM

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I've started the American line to do the missions. It's so boring though. I couldn't grind arty to tier 10.

Mike_Mckay #15 Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:01 AM

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View Postmrmoff10, on 16 October 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

I've started the American line to do the missions. It's so boring though. I couldn't grind arty to tier 10.

 

I know how you feel, even on console where I have 15 tier 10s a single tier 9 is my highest arty after that I think 6 is the highest lol


But I want all the tier 10s on PC and console, so I kind of have to :(

K_A #16 Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:27 AM

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View Postmrmoff10, on 16 October 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

I've started the American line to do the missions. It's so boring though. I couldn't grind arty to tier 10.

 

The only line I'm on the way to getting to tier 10 is the Russians, at tier 9 now, and even that's only because you can start it at tier 7 and just do the end bit.. :) The other arty lines are somewhere at tier 6 or 7 still.. And going along veeeery slowly.

Coldspell #17 Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:39 AM

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Japanese Artillery line is probably the best, they have better armour and view range also their HE shells do more damage tier for tier.... their shell arc is a little bit to direct which can be a problem in cities where you can't shoot over the buildings but if you load prem HE and aim on the ground near the building you can usually splash for 300-400.

Mike_Mckay #18 Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:22 AM

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View PostColdspell, on 16 October 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

Japanese Artillery line is probably the best, they have better armour and view range also their HE shells do more damage tier for tier.... their shell arc is a little bit to direct which can be a problem in cities where you can't shoot over the buildings but if you load prem HE and aim on the ground near the building you can usually splash for 300-400.

 

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I don't want to start from scratch on the Asian server though lol :)

SaintMaddenus #19 Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:01 PM

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French For speed, their ability to relocate is useful.    Though I enjoy the bishop now much more than my M40/43.



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Don't go for the French, their artillery is garbage.




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