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Hellfoxe #1 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

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Dear tankers

 

Finland have tanks and let Finland join wot tech tree? A full working tech tree with tanks Finnish army in wo2 and cold war.

 

Tier 1: Finnish Koiras

Tier 2: T-26

Tier 3; T-28

Tier 4: T-50

Tier 5: pz IV 

Tier 6: T-34/76

Tier 7: T-34/85

Tier 8: Comet 

Tier 9: T-54

Tier 10: T-55

 


Edited by Hellfoxe, 17 October 2017 - 02:25 PM.


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View PostHellfoxe, on 17 October 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

Dear tankers

 

Finland have tanks and let Finland join wot tech tree? A full working tech tree with real tanks.

 

Tier 1: Finnish Koiras

Tier 2: T-26

Tier 3; T-28

Tier 4: T-50

Tier 5: pz IV 

Tier 6: T-34/76

Tier 7: T-34/85

Tier 8: Comet 

Tier 9: T-54

Tier 10: T-55

 

When you say they had tanks you mean they had other people’s tanks surely?



Wayneable #3 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:26 PM

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So you want a tech tree full of clones in the game. I would have to say no thanks.

qpranger #4 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:28 PM

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Boring, too many clones even by WG's recent low standards. 

OP, just buy the relevant tanks from the corresponding tech trees

and stick the Finnish flag on them and then  please ota iisisti.



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You do realize this is a troll topic made to ridicule the poles?

Edited by commer, 17 October 2017 - 02:29 PM.


K_A #6 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:29 PM

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To be fair they would be even worse copy/paste tanks than what the Chinese are. Finland had tanks but they literally were just Russian tanks but we painted our own insignia to the side. Also Finland never really had Pz IV's, not properly. 

Aikl #7 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:30 PM

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Remodel those tanks, use the mod that replaces only your own tank, and go ham with Finnish markings. Everyone happy!

 

Yes, it'll take some work, but shouldn't be impossible, or maybe people have made skins already. Heck, in War Thunder I have a RNoAF (Royal Norwegian Air Force) skin for a Griffon-engined Spitfire...

 

(Besides, what kind of lakupiippu have you been smoking if you think the Comet would work at T8? :D )



Phobos4321 #8 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:31 PM

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more clones  and of russian tanks ontop ?

dont tell me russian and chinese trees didnt got enough russian tanks

 

on top of that they wouldnt have even a single unique tank

 

do we see a austrian tank full of german tanks soon ?

or some belarus tree as complete russian clone tree?

 

no thx



Jigabachi #9 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:33 PM

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What about no? We have enough clone tanks already. What would be the point of those tanks if the only difference would be the flag?

Besides that, we already have enough nations that are waiting for additional lines.

leggasiini #10 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:36 PM

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Even as a Finn by myself, I have to say that I do NOT want a full Finnish tech tree, and even less a branch like yours that contains literally nothing but clones (and as an icing cake, the top tiers are just yet another super uninteresting bunch of Russian hovermedium clones...). I don't see any form of appeal on it, sorry. If one really wants a Finnish branch, a TD line would be more unique and even that would need some stupid dark magic on it and it would basically contain tanks that were meant to be arties at top tiers, AKA more derp tanks...and I certainly feel like we do not need more of those. And even if the line would be semi-unique when it comes to gameplay it all but 2-3 tanks would be basically clones with unhistorical guns slapped and/or on different tiers as their in-game counterparts.

 

Just introduce the BT-42 as a tier 5 LT/TD on either as special premium tank under Finnish nation (like the Polish Blysckawica or whatever it is called on WoWS with no tech tree with it, or like the Type 59 was back inday) or under German tech tree. Like Toldi and Turan.


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It would just be full of Russian and German tanks already in the game, some even in several other variants under other flags already. So why bother? Just play those and toss a Finnish flag on it. Job done.

ShampoTanker #12 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:46 PM

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View PostHellfoxe, on 17 October 2017 - 02:23 PM, said:

Dear tankers

 

Finland have tanks and let Finland join wot tech tree? A full working tech tree with tanks Finnish army in wo2 and cold war.

 

Tier 1: Finnish Koiras

Tier 2: T-26

Tier 3; T-28

Tier 4: T-50

Tier 5: pz IV 

Tier 6: T-34/76

Tier 7: T-34/85

Tier 8: Comet 

Tier 9: T-54

Tier 10: T-55

 

 

You forgot the Stug ;) Basically you are listing the Parola Tank Museum content

leggasiini #13 Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:59 PM

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In case if anyone is interested what I meant about an "unique" Finnish branch, it would look something like this. However, even then I wouldn't never ever introduce something as stupid line as this is:

 

Spoiler

And it has a meaty list of problems:

 

  • Tier 9/10 is basically an artillery... not just any SPG but literally an artillery. And to make it worse, it's from 80s.
  • Tier 9/10 are basically the exactly the same tanks but split into tier 9/10. Though, realistically this is not a problem as this is how WG balances tanks, anyway.
  • There is hole on either tier 6 or 7. Before you freak about the ISU at tier 6, keep on mind that 1) it would have only the stock 152 mm howitzer 2) it wouldn't have 122 mm guns and 3) it wouldn't have the HEAT shells. Even then ISU can work at tier 7, but this leaves a hole at tier 6 - unless you add BT-42 as regular tier 5 and make Sturmi tier 6 with some very akward unhistorical gun choice (something as stupid as 152 mm howitzer).
  • To make the Charioteer fit the line, you would need to jam a 152 mm derp to it, which obviously is stupid as hell.
  • Lack of actually proper TD premiums; BT-42 would be pretty much the only one and using that leaves a hole at the line, which would result in need to create a fake tank somewhere.
  • It would be horrible addition to game because you all know how well a full line of derp tanks would end. We dont need a full line of land arties. A glass cannon tier 10 with derp gun would be especially toxic vehicle; imagine a Grille 15 that fires just stronger HE shells.
  • You would need to add completely stupid guns (like 152 on Charioteer) to make the line "logical" when it comes to gameplay.
  • Tier 1-5 would still be complete clones, and all but 2-3 tanks would be clones as well, just on different tiers.

 

So in short, I wouldn't add a Finnish branch unless we have absolutely ran out of new lines to add, which won't happen in next 5 years. Believe or not, there are like +20 lines still left to be implemented that doesn't contain complete clones or are abominations like this.



Dava_117 #14 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:06 PM

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T-34 at tier 6, T-34-85 a tier 7 and Comet at tier 8 made me smile! :teethhappy:

Mimos_A #15 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:55 PM

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Ei kiitos.

Makotti #16 Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:56 PM

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Well, I'd rather see few special premium tanks than whole clone tree. Like Leggasiini said BT-42 would be one, also personally I'd like to see StuG III G with finnish markings, camo and crew.

spuriousmonkey #17 Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:58 PM

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We should combine the Finnish tech tree with the Dutch one and everybody will be happy.

Penzijon3r_2017 #18 Posted 17 October 2017 - 05:05 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 17 October 2017 - 02:28 PM, said:

Boring, too many clones even by WG's recent low standards. 

OP, just buy the relevant tanks from the corresponding tech trees

and stick the Finnish flag on them and then  please ota iisisti.

 

what kind of clones did we get recently?

AvengerOrion #19 Posted 17 October 2017 - 06:20 PM

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View Postspuriousmonkey, on 17 October 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

We should combine the Finnish tech tree with the Dutch one and everybody will be happy.

 

Do you really want people to suffer in a Marmon-Herrington CTLS?

You sir, are cruel.



Browarszky #20 Posted 17 October 2017 - 06:22 PM

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View Postjabster, on 17 October 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

When you say they had tanks you mean they had other people’s tanks surely?

 

Literally.




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