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The_Georgian_One #1 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:27 PM

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Which tanks do you guys plan to keep after FV215 replacement happens in 9.20.1? I initially planned to keep tier 9 Conqueror and FV (obviously) and sell SuperQ to get 3.000.000 back. However...it seems they (over)buffed SuperQ to the levels that it would be mad to get rid of it.

 

So do I keep all 3? Do I sell Conqueror? Damn, it gets 10 degrees of gun depression, I don't want to sell it :(

The issue is I only have 1 British heavy crew...

 

Or maybe, just maybe I should sell E5, cause it's a total turd now and retrain the crew to tier 10 Patton I will unlock soon?


Edited by The_Georgian_One, 17 October 2017 - 03:27 PM.


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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 17 October 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

The issue is I only have 1 British heavy crew...

 

Lucky for you that the 215b is turning into a crew trainer then, and that WG have tossed on crew xp reserves on us like crazy of late.

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The_Georgian_One #3 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:38 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 17 October 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

 

Lucky for you that the 215b is turning into a crew trainer then, and that WG have tossed on crew xp reserves on us like crazy of late.

 

That still means playing tier 10 with 90% crew. I'd feel guilty doing something like this, especially in a matchup where I'm one of 3 tier 10s in 215 against say Type 5 and WZ111111115

Edited by The_Georgian_One, 17 October 2017 - 03:39 PM.


Jumping_Turtle #4 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:40 PM

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 17 October 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

 

Or maybe, just maybe I should sell E5, cause it's a total turd now and retrain the crew to tier 10 Patton I will unlock soon?

 

Thats what I did.

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After the first changes i thought id sell conq, keep caernarvon and keep the t10s (not because they would be good, but because i dont sell t10 tonks).

 

Then they overbuffed superconq and gave conq 10° gun depression, so those would obviously be too op not to be kept.

 

And now it seems like on live caernarvon is nerfed significantly (0.2 worse reload, 25% worse dispersion on turret traverse, worse turret traverse) to a point where the potato gun handling will make it extremely unfun to play, thus not being worth keeping anymore.



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feeling guilty for leveling and not money pushing a tank? isnt there a limit of how arrogant you can be ?

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The_Georgian_One #7 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:47 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 17 October 2017 - 03:40 PM, said:

 

Thats what I did.

 

Seems Patton is a better heavium now...

View PostDr_Oolen, on 17 October 2017 - 03:40 PM, said:

After the first changes i thought id sell conq, keep caernarvon and keep the t10s (not because they would be good, but because i dont sell t10 tonks).

 

Then they overbuffed superconq and gave conq 10° gun depression, so those would obviously be too op not to be kept.

 

And now it seems like on live caernarvon is nerfed significantly (0.2 worse reload, 25% worse dispersion on turret traverse, worse turret traverse) to a point where the potato gun handling will make it extremely unfun to play, thus not being worth keeping anymore.

 

I guess I will keep all 3 and will have to find a way to blitz to 1st perk with a new crew....2 x crew XP weekend + reserves + a day of premium account should do it.

Homer_J #8 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:48 PM

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 17 October 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

 

That still means playing tier 10 with 90% crew.

 

How many girl crew will you be getting due to the change in the way mission 15 will be skipped?

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i planned to keep Caernavon and Conqueror (T9)

why? Because Caenr will be finally a relevant counterpart for Patriot and good for SH, Random and even CW...Conqueror because its exactly like S.Conq but at tier 9..and if tier 10 dont have enough signifiant advantages i dont keep them.

Both have good turrets, both got -10 gun dep, gun is same and hulls too...or almost, with very small differences

and FV of course...wich is the trainer :)



The_Georgian_One #10 Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:48 PM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 17 October 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

feeling guilty for leveling and not money pushing a tank? isnt there a limit of how arrogant you can be ?

 

Nope. Feeling guilty for potentially gimping my team by playing with a poor crew in a top tier vehicle. You see something wrong with this?
 

View PostHomer_J, on 17 October 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

 

How many girl crew will you be getting due to the change in the way mission 15 will be skipped?

 

That is actually a very good question. I can get 1 girl to be the commander...brilliant, thanks!
 

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 17 October 2017 - 02:48 PM, said:

 

Nope. Feeling guilty for potentially gimping my team by playing with a poor crew in a top tier vehicle. You see something wrong with this?

 

A good player in a gimped tank generally beats a play4fun player in an overpowered one. 

 

(That's why all the equalization of matchups won't do as much to prevent roflstomps as is being claimed.)



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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 17 October 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

 

Nope. Feeling guilty for potentially gimping my team by playing with a poor crew in a top tier vehicle. You see something wrong with this?

 

if i didnt would i have called it arrogance ?

i never felt that 100% crewtraining or skipping the stock grind is mandatory

also i feel rather sry if a 75% crew and as such perhaps 0,5 sec slower reload  etc would not only gimp you but also your team

modules would be far more important than a 100% crew also isnt it common knowledge in wot thata decent crew takes time to train   even more before you could train them for free exp



The_Georgian_One #13 Posted 18 October 2017 - 07:31 AM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 17 October 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

 

if i didnt would i have called it arrogance ?

i never felt that 100% crewtraining or skipping the stock grind is mandatory

also i feel rather sry if a 75% crew and as such perhaps 0,5 sec slower reload  etc would not only gimp you but also your team

modules would be far more important than a 100% crew also isnt it common knowledge in wot thata decent crew takes time to train   even more before you could train them for free exp

 

It's not mandatory and I never said it was. And yes, decent crew takes time to train. But tier 10 is no environment to train your crew. At this level typically players have 3+ perks on their crews. So if you go to battle with 75% crew you ARE effectively putting your team at disadvantage. Since you always play elited tank on tier 10, the crew is what makes all the difference (plus player skill, but you'd expect higher skill level on tier 10 anyway). The place to train your 75% crew is tier 5, tier 8 if you have to.

If you 'feel rather sorry' you clearly don't understand the impact and the difference between 3-perk crew and crew on 75%. It's not only reload (and definitely not O.5 sec), it's also dispersion and overall gun handling, view range, mobility, repair skill, etc. The difference in tank handling between 2.5 perk crew and 75% crew is huge. Do me a favor and check it yourself.



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Buy a Cromwell B when it's next on sale and train up that free BIA crew? 

 

That is what I did, bought one last time it was on sale and trained up the crew last week to go into the Conway, just put boosters on and did the doubles in my British meds. 



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Im confused by all the patchnotes and stuff. Checked actual live client and there are no changes compared to the last version of test (other than fv215bs lfp not being buffed anymore and fv4202 having the semi-buffed turret), unlike what the patchnotes claim.

 

inb4 EU used wrong version to update their changes.


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View PostDr_Oolen, on 18 October 2017 - 10:48 AM, said:

Checked actual live client

How?!



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View PostSpurtung, on 18 October 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

How?!

 

updated game, checked tonks in tank inspector

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View PostDr_Oolen, on 18 October 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

 

updated game, checked tonks in tank inspector

 

Good, I thought you were already in.

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View Posttajj7, on 18 October 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

Buy a Cromwell B when it's next on sale and train up that free BIA crew?

 

That is what I did, bought one last time it was on sale and trained up the crew last week to go into the Conway, just put boosters on and did the doubles in my British meds.

 

I already did that and have 2nd crew in Charioteer. I'll go with Homer's suggestion and use my final Obj260 lady for the commander and will work from there.

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View PostDr_Oolen, on 18 October 2017 - 10:48 AM, said:

Im confused by all the patchnotes and stuff. Checked actual live client and there are no changes compared to the last version of test (other than fv215bs lfp not being buffed anymore and fv4202 having the semi-buffed turret), unlike what the patchnotes claim.

 

inb4 EU used wrong version to update their changes.

 

watched 1 russkie livestream yesterday, it seems that they didnt touch the caravan :D 3,3k dpm and gun handling stayed the same as well i think :) This will be remembered as karavans patch :D





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