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Chull #1 Posted 18 October 2017 - 12:44 PM

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So anyone who has this and can tell what actual buffs made it through to the live server? I know it was crap, then OP, then crap again then buffed. So where is it at now? 

 



Dragonlordcv #2 Posted 18 October 2017 - 12:46 PM

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When it was OP??? :amazed:

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Chull #3 Posted 18 October 2017 - 12:47 PM

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View PostDragonlordcv, on 18 October 2017 - 12:46 PM, said:

When it was OP??? :amazed:

 

Ok my bad, OP according to WG after test server 1, hence why they removed the buffs.

Baldrickk #4 Posted 18 October 2017 - 12:52 PM

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View PostChull, on 18 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

 

Ok my bad, OP according to WG after test server 1, hence why they removed the buffs.

They put them back again

 

It's not in the roundup video but it is in the notes. 

Turret and engine buffs. 

 

I'm still left wanting an accurate model. 


Edited by Baldrickk, 18 October 2017 - 12:55 PM.


undutchable80 #5 Posted 18 October 2017 - 01:25 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 18 October 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

They put them back again

 

It's not in the roundup video but it is in the notes. 

Turret and engine buffs. 

 

I'm still left wanting an accurate model. 

 

So what are the stats now for real compared to before?

Balc0ra #6 Posted 18 October 2017 - 01:36 PM

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Turret armor is listed as 200 now, it was 170 before. 90 on the side and rear. But how much of the surface area they have buffed remains to be seen. As tanks.gg have yet to update to the new specs. As the 170mm area on the old turret was not big. As the max value is always listed. So we have no clue what they have done to the rest of the plates.

 

 


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Userext #7 Posted 18 October 2017 - 01:40 PM

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stats now

200/90/90

650 engine

 

stats before

170/90/90

550 engine

 

The speed is fine and I guess armour is fine too but the gun is still horrible. Avoid buying it as much as possible

Oh also, don't take mrconway's armour distribution screenshot serious until he explains why tanks.gg(9.20) and his 4202(9.20 picture) don't share the same armour values.



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View PostUserext, on 18 October 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

stats now

200/90/90

650 engine

 

stats before

170/90/90

550 engine

 

The speed is fine and I guess armour is fine too but the gun is still horrible. Avoid buying it as much as possible

Oh also, don't take mrconway's armour distribution screenshot serious until he explains why tanks.gg(9.20) and his 4202(9.20 picture) don't share the same armour values.

 

*puts wallet away*

 

Thanks, just wanted to check. Shame though. Will continue to drive my primo victoria around then. :-p



Balc0ra #9 Posted 18 October 2017 - 01:52 PM

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View PostUserext, on 18 October 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

The speed is fine and I guess armour is fine too but the gun is still horrible. Avoid buying it as much as possible

Oh also, don't take mrconway's armour distribution screenshot serious until he explains why tanks.gg(9.20) and his 4202(9.20 picture) don't share the same armour values.

 

Well most here inc me have said that the mobility and armor on the FV was never the biggest issue it had. Gun was.  20 pounder on the tier 8 meds is the thing that makes them bad IMO. I can take the low turret armor and mobility if the gun was better.

Edited by Balc0ra, 18 October 2017 - 01:55 PM.


Userext #10 Posted 18 October 2017 - 01:55 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 October 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

 

Well most here inc me have said that the mobility and armor on the FV was never the biggest issue it had. Gun was.  20 pounder on tier 8 meds is terrible.

 

if the turret armour was the same as CT1 then it would have been better for aiming time and that's still a gun issue not actually a turret issue.

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 18 October 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

 IMO. I can take the low turret armor and mobility if the gun was better.


not that far but I'd rather take a gun buff to current version :great:

 


Edited by Userext, 18 October 2017 - 01:57 PM.


Vitasik737 #11 Posted 18 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

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the turrent is good now but became crapwith aiming

 



THE_JACK_OF_HEARTS #12 Posted 18 October 2017 - 02:33 PM

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should have got sabaton girls ......

Baldrickk #13 Posted 18 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 October 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

 

Well most here inc me have said that the mobility and armor on the FV was never the biggest issue it had. Gun was.  20 pounder on the tier 8 meds is the thing that makes them bad IMO. I can take the low turret armor and mobility if the gun was better.

The gun isn't that bad...

Turret armour buff at least gives you a chance to let it fully aim now.



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View PostBaldrickk, on 18 October 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

The gun isn't that bad...

Turret armour buff at least gives you a chance to let it fully aim now.

 

 

9.20.1 CT2 4202 vs primo victoria.

 

The gun isn't that bad but in comparison the gun buff would rather make this tank a good medium tank. Currently it's playable but not enjoyable. Maybe a RoF buff would help.



upsetti_spaghetti #15 Posted 18 October 2017 - 03:45 PM

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It's a piece of crap, your "roof" is peneable by anything you will meet which is mostly tier 9/10 unless extreme angling so, 1 in 5 matches where you can find some play to angle. Speed is really good but that's it, it's gun is crap, I have the STA-2 and it's so much better, still crapbut better.

Baldrickk #16 Posted 18 October 2017 - 04:37 PM

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View PostUserext, on 18 October 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

 

 

9.20.1 CT2 4202 vs primo victoria.

 

The gun isn't that bad but in comparison the gun buff would rather make this tank a good medium tank. Currently it's playable but not enjoyable. Maybe a RoF buff would help.

Don't worry, I wasn't value it the best. 



Balc0ra #17 Posted 18 October 2017 - 04:40 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 18 October 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

The gun isn't that bad...

Turret armour buff at least gives you a chance to let it fully aim now.

 

It's not, it's just lacking in ROF vs... well anything tbh.

 

That said.. tank.gg just updated.

 

Turret cheeks have gone from 85 to 140mm. Roof from 60 to 80mm. So about 280 effective with -10 gun depression, and 250 on the cheeks.

The 170mm plate above the gun is still 170. But the plates next to the mantle is 164 to 240 now.


Edited by Balc0ra, 18 October 2017 - 04:45 PM.


cmgamesro #18 Posted 18 October 2017 - 07:29 PM

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the turret buff isn't really noticeable, a is-3 could easily pen you everywhere




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