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IchWill32 #1 Posted 18 October 2017 - 10:57 PM

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I cant stop laughing really, is that difficult balance players too and not only tanks?

 

This is from 4 or 5 days ago, top tiers:

 

Balance players too, also will be good to limit the gold ammo to 4 or 6 bullets in ramdon battles. Ramdom battles are to get fun, not to play like in clan wars.



xx984 #2 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:00 PM

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I dont see anything unusual?

 

Edit -

 

Also, if you are going to make a thread because the enemies sometimes have better players, can you also make one for the amount of times your teams have had better players that have carried you to victory?


Edited by xx984, 18 October 2017 - 11:08 PM.


Homer_J #3 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:02 PM

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But if you balance players too then for good players it will be like clan wars every single battle.



japtank #4 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:07 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 October 2017 - 11:02 PM, said:

But if you balance players too then for good players it will be like clan wars every single battle.

 

Fair point.

How is it considered bad sport playing the T67 or II J endlessly again?



CmdRatScabies #5 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:07 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 October 2017 - 11:02 PM, said:

But if you balance players too then for good players it will be like clan wars every single battle.

 

Silly boy.  He means balanced so that he gets the better tanks and players on his team.

IchWill32 #6 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:12 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 October 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

But if you balance players too then for good players it will be like clan wars every single battle.

 

If you balance players, games will get more long and fun (not more camping), a thing that WG seems dont want, ofc becouse less incoming money. At least balance the top tier players only. Screen 2 is a clear ecample.

Edited by IchWill32, 18 October 2017 - 11:14 PM.


Homer_J #7 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:12 PM

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View Postjaptank, on 18 October 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

 

Fair point.

How is it considered bad sport playing the T67 or II J endlessly again?

 

When you then either complain about unbalanced tanks, or about your unbalanced tank getting nerfed, or about anything really.

japtank #8 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:28 PM

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I see no difference playing a seal clubbing tank or seal clubbing a team with better players.

Maybe I'm old school, but I like it fair.

 

Of course winrates might flatten out, but these forums ToS don't allow me to tell what I think about stat junkies, so let's just say that a good game, won or lost, is worth a hundred boring victories, or humiliating defeats for that matter.

 

The powers at Minsk think differently, obviously.

Or don't care, whatever.



Homer_J #9 Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:47 PM

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View Postjaptank, on 18 October 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

I see no difference playing a seal clubbing tank or seal clubbing a team with better players.

 

Better players are better because they worked at it.  There is no stipulation to learn but if you do then you get the right to pwn.  This is the law as written by SerB himself.

K_A #10 Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:17 AM

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View PostIchWill32, on 18 October 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

 

If you balance players, games will get more long and fun (not more camping), a thing that WG seems dont want, ofc becouse less incoming money. At least balance the top tier players only. Screen 2 is a clear ecample.

 

Umm.. How about no. 

Kozzy #11 Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:24 AM

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Everyone has the same opportunity to git gud.  Some take it, some don't.

tumppi776 #12 Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:28 AM

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well atleast your team was able to frag 1 tank :P

 

cant say the same for my TX team...


Edited by tumppi776, 19 October 2017 - 08:28 AM.


XOR42 #13 Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:41 AM

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Hi OP!

 

So.. ..you push the random button but you are unhappy that it's so random.

 

I am sure in your 30k+ battles you were on the "golden" team sometimes and didn't make a thread about RNG always placing you in the better team, no?

 

As an aside, I'm fairly certain "good" players don't really mind what team they are on but that's just my opinion.

 

If you want an idea, petition WG to introduce a new "Not too random" game mode. I don't think it will stick but I think it is what your are angling for.

 

Good luck.


Edited by XOR42, 19 October 2017 - 08:41 AM.


OreH75 #14 Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:56 AM

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In screenshot 1 you did only 560 damage yourself, so why complain about the rest of the team when all 15 of you failed? 

And in screenshot 2 both tanks at the top did around 1000 dmg despite the difference in personal rating. It just look likes the 2nd T34 carried his team to victory but hard to say when you show only 4 of 30 players and why not show what your contribution was that match?


Edited by OreH75, 19 October 2017 - 10:00 AM.


japtank #15 Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:53 AM

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View PostKozzy, on 19 October 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

Everyone has the same opportunity to git gud.  Some take it, some don't.

 

This is false. Like in not true.

It's an urban myth that everybody can get good.

The truth is that everybody could, to some extent.

And that extent won't get most very far...

 

That reminds me a friend of mine when raiding on WoW: since he's an old friend, I tried as best as I could, as a raid leader, to tell him what to do in which situation and help him learn to play his character. We are still friends, but he never progressed an inch.

An idiot! would shout the WoT forums most vocal posters.

No, he isn't.

He is a teacher, he raised three children, he's no rocket scientist but he isn't an idiot and he tried his best.

On the other hand, I never had to teach anything twice to my young son: he gets it at first try.

 

So don't fool yourself in thinking the game is full of idiots.

The game is only full of different people, with different minds, different abilities and different expectations.



Pvt_Duffer #16 Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:01 AM

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Curious about the minimap indicators. Is that a reload timer?

 

Wonder if that's why all the innocent promod users got banned.



thestaggy #17 Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 19 October 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

Curious about the minimap indicators. Is that a reload timer?

 

Wonder if that's why all the innocent promod users got banned.

 

I think its HP.



Kozzy #18 Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:33 AM

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View Postjaptank, on 19 October 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:

 

This is false. Like in not true.

It's an urban myth that everybody can get good.

The truth is that everybody could, to some extent.

And that extent won't get most very far...

 

 

You may have missed a small, but important part of my post:

 

View PostKozzy, on 19 October 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Everyone has the same opportunity to git gud.  Some take it, some don't.

 

When you fire up the game you have the same opportunity as me or anyone else.  What players do with that opportunity is what defines their skill level.



Pvt_Duffer #19 Posted 19 October 2017 - 01:37 PM

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View Postthestaggy, on 19 October 2017 - 10:27 AM, said:

 

I think its HP.

That would make more sense, but then this still applies...

 

"Mods that reveal the position of enemies in a way not included in the vanilla client"

 

Unless there's another way of seeing how much HP an un-spotted tank has left?

 

 



ZlatanArKung #20 Posted 19 October 2017 - 05:09 PM

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View PostIchWill32, on 18 October 2017 - 11:12 PM, said:

 

If you balance players, games will get more long and fun (not more camping), a thing that WG seems dont want, ofc becouse less incoming money. At least balance the top tier players only. Screen 2 is a clear ecample.

 

I really remember the first iteration of ranked as "fun"... no, it sucked and sacked really really really hard. And what I heard from second iteration of ranked it was just as bad.

So in that sense, ranked doesn't seem to produce more fun games.

 

Also WG changed the rules of 2nd ranked season because it was so "fun" to play that skillbased mode so very few did.

 

Skillbased leads to different games, and as shown by ranked, it is not more fun.

 

Maybe if WG created a real skillbased MM with leagues and rewards using ELO system, it might produce a mode with longevity and maybe some fun.






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