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Poll: Your observed number of SPGs in percentages of games. (26 members have cast votes)

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I see 0 SPGs per side in:

  1. Less than 25% of games (21 votes [80.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.77%

  2. 25% to 50% of games (3 votes [11.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.54%

  3. 50% to 75% of games (1 vote [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

  4. 75% to 100% of games (1 vote [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

I see 1 SPGs per side in:

  1. Less than 25% of games (8 votes [30.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.77%

  2. 25% to 50% of games (11 votes [42.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.31%

  3. 50% to 75% of games (6 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  4. 75% to 100% of games (1 vote [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

I see 2 SPGs per side in:

  1. Less than 25% of games (9 votes [34.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.62%

  2. 25% to 50% of games (9 votes [34.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.62%

  3. 50% to 75% of games (8 votes [30.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.77%

  4. 75% to 100% of games (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

I see 3 SPGs per side in:

  1. Less than 25% of games (13 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. 25% to 50% of games (8 votes [30.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.77%

  3. 50% to 75% of games (3 votes [11.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.54%

  4. 50% to 75% of games (2 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

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HeidenSieker #1 Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:46 PM

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What percentage of games do you observe 0, 1, 2, or 3 SPGs playing in?

Edited by HeidenSieker, 20 October 2017 - 12:48 PM.


Version43 #2 Posted 20 October 2017 - 01:24 PM

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Ideally there should be two groups. I bet that if a play a session with SPGs and a session with other tanks their numbers will vary because with SPGs you can not get the 0 SPG games. Or only the second group should be counted?

Gremlin182 #3 Posted 20 October 2017 - 01:47 PM

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I have no idea I could guess but the number would be just that a guess.

Maybe you should ask players to make a note of their next 50 games and then come back with accurate numbers.

 

I really don't obsess over what numbers of each vehicle types there are in my games.

I can say there are far fewer SPGs around right now at least that's my impression from the last week or so.



Version43 #4 Posted 20 October 2017 - 02:35 PM

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I am just going to count the weekend session(s).



Orkbert #5 Posted 20 October 2017 - 04:05 PM

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Until March I did meticulously record all matches and of those in which I chose a non-arty myself I continuously noted the numbers of SPGs in the match

 

0 SPGs:  141 (22%)

1 SPG:    203 (32%)

2 SPGS: 162 (25%)

3 SPGs: 126  (20%)

4+ SPGs:   3  (less than 0,5%)

 

Obviously this has been from before the arty rework (hence the pittance of 4+ arty matches) but just as obviously those 4+ matches didn't affect the total score notably)

Oh, and I always counted matches with different numbers of SPGs with the higher number (for example a two vs three arty match was counted as a 3SPG match)

 

Of course with the rework the numbers might have changed and someone with a different average tank tier could experience different number distributions, although should someone claim grossly other percentages I would cherish if those numbers were supported by proof.


Edited by Orkbert, 20 October 2017 - 05:38 PM.


HeidenSieker #6 Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:07 PM

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View PostOrkbert, on 20 October 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

Of course with the rework the numbers might have changed and someone with a different average tank tier could experience different number distributions, although should someone claim grossly other percentages I would cherish if those numbers were supported by proof.

 

It would be very helpful if there was an online resource to view the figures...

Orkbert #7 Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:32 PM

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Well, for mine there are the replays from here (where I did 'reset' my count to zero due to a previous counting system no longer having been satisfactory to me) http://wotreplays.eu/uploader/Orkbert/id/334736/version/59,58,57,56,55,54,53,50,51,49,48,46,44,43,41,39,38,37,36,35,34,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25,24,23,22,16,14,15,13,19,18,20,17,21,52,47,33,45,40,42/sort/uploaded_at.desc/page/123/ to here http://wotreplays.eu/uploader/Orkbert/id/334736/version/59,58,57,56,55,54,53,50,51,49,48,46,44,43,41,39,38,37,36,35,34,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25,24,23,22,16,14,15,13,19,18,20,17,21,52,47,33,45,40,42/sort/uploaded_at.desc/page/31/

occasionally there had been a counting error (hence a few replays having odd name extensions to keep track of the actual SPG count) but by and large the bookkeeping had been correct.


Edited by Orkbert, 20 October 2017 - 05:36 PM.


HeidenSieker #8 Posted 21 October 2017 - 09:29 AM

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View PostVersion43, on 20 October 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

Ideally there should be two groups. I bet that if a play a session with SPGs and a session with other tanks their numbers will vary because with SPGs you can not get the 0 SPG games. Or only the second group should be counted?

 

If you play an SPG there will bea minimum of one SPG in that game. If you play an SPG every game, it is more likely that you will see >1 SPG in gour games.

ralesm1989 #9 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

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Lately, i have two situations regarding arty numbers in battle. 1st - i get 0 of them, and 2nd - 3 per team. So, in like 80 % of my battles it was just like that. 3 per team or 0. 

Also, i don't like conspiracy theories and such bull.... but it seems they damage you higher than before again. Lot of 600+ hits again. Did they ''balance'' arty again? :playing:



Darth_Clicker #10 Posted 22 October 2017 - 08:37 AM

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I played 59 battles and had the following results:

 

All battles had at least one spg per team because....

Battles with:

 

1 SPG:   23

2 SPGs:  27

3 SPGs:  9

 

55 battles were tier 5 as I am playing the LeFH for the xp boosts on premium vehicles.  I thought the battles would have a lot of LeFHs, but I have only had 3 battles with one on the enemy team. I haven't had a battle with two or more on a team. Update:  I have had two battles with 2 Lefhs on my team.  Still not two on the enemy team.

 

The other 3 battles were one tier X battle with one spg per team and one tier X with two per team, one tier VIII with one spg per team, and one tier VIII with two per team.  I may update the numbers as I play more this afternoon. 

 

 


Edited by Darth_Clicker, 22 October 2017 - 06:08 PM.


Darth_Clicker #11 Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:08 PM

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Updated above results.

Orkbert #12 Posted 22 October 2017 - 09:32 PM

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View PostDarth_Clicker, on 22 October 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

Updated above results.

 

Thanks for covering that side, since my data was only from when I didn't choose arty myself. And since it was from before 9.18 I now started to count the SPGs in my own non-arty matches as well. (with the previous convention that in the case of an uneven arty distribution I will count the higher number)

 

And i will not simply add them to the pre-9.18 score but start the counter anew.

 

Of course, just like your own example my new sample is currently way too small (need at least ~400 matches, the more the better)

 

0 SPGs encountered: 6 matches

1 SPG per side:          7 matches

2 SPGs per side:        4 matches

3 SPGs per side:        none so far

 

Of course with a total of only 17 matches one can't quite make out any trend, but the lack of triple arty might be an indicator that those matches might not be as frequent as some might try to claim.

 

Darths score so far also seems to confirm that matches with 3 SPGs on each side could happen with a lower frequency.

 

Edit: since I'm currently the last post anyways I can update the numbers here.

 

Well, now I had a few matches with triple arty (while I played non-arty myself) but the numbers speak for themselves:

 

0 SPGs encountered: 11 matches

1 SPG per side:          15 matches

2 SPGs per side:        11 matches

3 SPGs per side:          4 matches

 

Two, one or zero artilleries in a match seem to be more or less evenly distributed (with the single arty matches maybe a wee bit more often, but numbers are still too small to make a definite statement) but the triple artillery battles seem to happen significantly less

 


Edited by Orkbert, 24 October 2017 - 03:41 PM.


Orkbert #13 Posted 31 October 2017 - 11:14 AM

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With the numbers having doubled I guess I could make an update:

 

0 SPGs encountered: 19 matches

1 SPG per side:          31 matches

2 SPGs per side:        27 matches

3 SPGs per side:        10 matches

 

By now there seems to be a trend that the 'arty-free' matches do indeed happen less often than matches with one or two SPGs on each side, but the triple arty is currently happening even less often than the zero arty matches.

 

Edit: just a small update

 

0 SPGs encountered: 31 matches

1 SPG per side:          59 matches

2 SPGs per side:        51 matches

3 SPGs per side:        20 matches


Edited by Orkbert, 06 November 2017 - 07:26 PM.


Orkbert #14 Posted 10 November 2017 - 07:43 PM

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Since we got an oddball in another thread (that's been locked so I can't ask him for replays or other type of proof) who claimed a strange number of multi-arty games:

 

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 Pretty much every game for the last week has been 3 arty "players".

 

I thought it would be useful for the next numbers update:

 

0 SPGs encountered: 36 matches

1 SPG per side:          67 matches

2 SPGs per side:        58 matches

3 SPGs per side:        25 matches

 

Strangely enough with my current score I get triple arty matches in about 13% of my games.

 

Even with accounting that he had different matches than what I had (so he will have a different percentage, no doubt about that) a claim that grossly deviating from my observations is laughable. Had he said something like a third of my matches are with triple arty that could have been well within the error margins of a single week of observation.

Of course, I could have done the very same and on October 23rd I could have started a complaining thread crying about that I had no matches with three arties per side and how about that enforces hardcore camping (due to no arties the campers don't even wriggle around their positions and thus can kill the opponents with extremely well aimed shots without any risk of retaliation) but oddly enough I didn't. Might have to do something with playing the morally superior class.

 

I wonder if the arty haters don't even notice that by fabricating such preposterous falsehoods they keep eroding their position more and more.



Darth_Clicker #15 Posted 12 November 2017 - 06:42 AM

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View PostOrkbert, on 10 November 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

 

I wonder if the arty haters don't even notice that by fabricating such preposterous falsehoods they keep eroding their position more and more.

 

I think the arty haters are the same as any other person who takes an "extreme" position on any topic.  To actually "hate" a part of an online video game along with the people that play that part of said game is a clear indicator of a twisted mentality/reality at the least.  They are not concerned at all with the truth, but only with ideas/beliefs that support their own self-created facts.  They are closed minded.  Or maybe they are simple minded.  But most likely they are both.

Darth_Clicker #16 Posted 17 November 2017 - 02:19 PM

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Here are my updated results:

 

1 SPG:   41

2 SPGs:  66

3 SPGs:  32



Orkbert #17 Posted 18 November 2017 - 08:17 AM

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View PostDarth_Clicker, on 17 November 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

Here are my updated results:

 

1 SPG:   41

2 SPGs:  66

3 SPGs:  32

 

Now that's intriguing, as you do in fact experience more double-arty matches than single arty ones, and not only a few more but roughly 50%, whereas my observations kinda seem to indicate that those shouldn't deviate too much from each other, heck, currently the 1SPG matches have a small but not insignificant lead. Score:

 

0 SPGs encountered: 43 matches

1 SPG per side:          91 matches

2 SPGs per side:        73 matches

3 SPGs per side:        31 matches

 

So either both our samples are still too small (well, I plan to keep counting until even the least often SPG occurence happened 100 times, so we're talking about 800~1000 games total) or it could be that the SPG distribution by playing only SPGs does shift the encounter frequency. (Apart from obviously not having arty-free matches by default)

 

I guess I will have to start counting my own arty matches as well and see if they converge with your data (then it's likely a SPG thing) or if I get other numbers.

 

 



B3RG #18 Posted 18 November 2017 - 11:39 AM

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I feel (don't know right word for it right now) that if I'm playing heavy there are 3 arty's , medium 1arty , scout no arty.

​and when I'm playing arty there is always an other arty stealing my stun/kills

​got no hard numbers but just a gut feeling



Gnomus #19 Posted 18 November 2017 - 02:38 PM

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View PostDarth_Clicker, on 17 November 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

Here are my updated results:

 

1 SPG:   41

2 SPGs:  66

3 SPGs:  32

 

View PostOrkbert, on 18 November 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

 

Now that's intriguing, as you do in fact experience more double-arty matches than single arty ones, and not only a few more but roughly 50%, whereas my observations kinda seem to indicate that those shouldn't deviate too much from each other, heck, currently the 1SPG matches have a small but not insignificant lead. Score:

 

 

Darth is almost arty only player. His numbers are from battles where he himself is driving arty. That explains total lack of 0 arty games and change in likelihood of other arty battles.

 

It is good to see your numbers (own arty battles discounted, so never picking arty) and Darths numbers (if player always plays arty himself). That gives better picture of what to expect depending on persons own arty percentage.



Orkbert #20 Posted 18 November 2017 - 03:09 PM

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View PostGnomus, on 18 November 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

 

 

Darth is almost arty only player. His numbers are from battles where he himself is driving arty. That explains total lack of 0 arty games and change in likelihood of other arty battles.

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I know, but that the difference is that significant is interesting (on my data, the single arty battles have a smallish yet obvious lead against the double arty matches but Darth's results not only invert it but the relative lead is even bigger)

 

Well, that much said I now have started to count my own arty battles separately so we shall see how that will turn out.






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