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Desleal #1 Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:20 PM

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Hi guys,

 

I've been wondering lately...What winrate should have a player who only plays random battles with no platoon? I mean, without playing any clan battles or platoon randoms battles...Which would be a good winrate?

 

Thanks for your answers.

 

:P



K_A #2 Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:25 PM

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Well, anything over 50% is decent, anything over 55% solo is great and getting 60%+ solo is top 1% unicum stuff.

Edited by K_A, 20 October 2017 - 08:48 PM.


Jigabachi #3 Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:39 PM

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What winrate should have a player who only plays random battles with no platoon?

"Should have"... by what standards? The average WR is around 48%, so everything above that is good.

But you shouldn't only look at the WR. You have 54%, but you play a lot of lower tiers and also many tanks that are rather easy to pad with, so your WR is quite inflated.

 


Edited by Jigabachi, 20 October 2017 - 08:39 PM.


Erwin_Von_Braun #4 Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:43 PM

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View PostDesleal, on 20 October 2017 - 07:20 PM, said:

Hi guys,

 

I've been wondering lately...What winrate should have a player who only plays random battles with no platoon? I mean, without playing any clan battles or platoon randoms battles...Which would be a good winrate?

 

Thanks for your answers.

 

:P

 

View PostJigabachi, on 20 October 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

"Should have"... by what standards? The average WR is around 48%, so everything above that is good.

But you shouldn't only look at the WR. You have 54%, but you play a lot of lower tiers and also many tanks that are rather easy to pad with, so your WR is quite inflated.

 

 

OR, stop worrying about numbers and try to enjoy the game:)

AngelofAwe #5 Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:54 PM

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Sounds pretty elitist but if I open up a service record and a player has less than 50% WR my first thought is "he's bad".
Somewhere around 53-54% I consider a player decent enough to expect them to do the right things most of the time.

You're going to get different answers depending on the skill level of the player answering, it's always a matter of perspective. 

K_A #6 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:01 PM

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View PostAngelofAwe, on 20 October 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Sounds pretty elitist but if I open up a service record and a player has less than 50% WR my first thought is "he's bad".
Somewhere around 53-54% I consider a player decent enough to expect them to do the right things most of the time.

You're going to get different answers depending on the skill level of the player answering, it's always a matter of perspective. 

 

Well to be fair, even though 50% is roughly the "average", the "average" in wot playerbase isn't all that great, so your assessment isn't far off. 

 

THEN AGAIN, I do understand the point of just having fun and shooting up tanks. But often it seems that even if you just do that, go around the map shooting at red tanks, will yield better results than over half of the playerbase which begs the question: what the f is the other half doing? :sceptic: I was able to teach a 20-something girl, my sister, who has never in her life played a single video game on PC or any game console, how to play wot to a level where she has 55% wins and 1400WN8 in less than 10k games. I repeat, never in her life had she played a single video game, not on PC, not on a console, not even on her phone. And she's better than 75% of all the bobs roaming the servers.


Edited by K_A, 20 October 2017 - 09:02 PM.


Erwin_Von_Braun #7 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:03 PM

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View PostAngelofAwe, on 20 October 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Sounds pretty elitist but if I open up a service record and a player has less than 50% WR my first thought is "he's bad".
Somewhere around 53-54% I consider a player decent enough to expect them to do the right things most of the time.

You're going to get different answers depending on the skill level of the player answering, it's always a matter of perspective.

 

Numbers can be very easily manipulated and, yes, that does sound elitist &/or a little narcissistic :P

What it does do however, is give you a good measure of the person passing judgement on someone he has never met based on a series of 'statistics'


Edited by Erwin_Von_Braun, 20 October 2017 - 09:05 PM.


qqq10 #8 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:04 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 October 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

OR, stop worrying about numbers and try to enjoy the game:)

 

Can't when a bunch of bots is doing everything in their power to prevent me from winning the game. Those numbers are what allows me to steer clear of idiots that would only get in my way.



Erwin_Von_Braun #9 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:06 PM

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View Postqqq10, on 20 October 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

 

Can't when a bunch of bots is doing everything in their power to prevent me from winning the game. Those numbers are what allows me to steer clear of idiots that would only get in my way.

 

I rest my case.

ZlatanArKung #10 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:16 PM

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55%+ WR is when I consider player good enough to be a reliable team mate.


truoste #11 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:17 PM

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View PostDesleal, on 20 October 2017 - 07:20 PM, said:

Hi guys,

 

I've been wondering lately...What winrate should have a player who only plays random battles with no platoon? I mean, without playing any clan battles or platoon randoms battles...Which would be a good winrate?

 

Thanks for your answers.

 

:P

 

Since last patch anything above 50% in my case is excellent. No matter how gut i try to git I cannot get above 50.

 

Edit: I stand corrected: anything above 40 is excellent


Edited by truoste, 20 October 2017 - 10:11 PM.


MajkyDii #12 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:19 PM

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everyone needs to be possibly get 50% it isn't that hard

Danger__UXB #13 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:24 PM

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Depends on the tier?....i can hit 64% tier 2 (76% in my Panzerjeager1)...57% tier 5 ....50% tier 8/9 ...and in crap at tier 10 (40%-ish when amongst better players)...(Also depends on the tank and playstyle suited to what you have learned about the game?)

 

 

...This is why players say dont push the tiers too quickly,,,im a consequence of that sadly.

 

 

...Stats dont lie they just portray


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vixu #14 Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:06 PM

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Depends a lot on the tier and tanks you play. 

If vehicle and tier suits your style, then you may have considerably higher win rate, then on the other side of the spectrum. I think, my range is 56-44% with overall around 52.5 .  And I actually have very little idea of what I am doing.

Mimos_A #15 Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:10 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 October 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

Numbers can be very easily manipulated and, yes, that does sound elitist &/or a little narcissistic :P

What it does do however, is give you a good measure of the person passing judgement on someone he has never met based on a series of 'statistics'

 

He's not passing judgement on the person as a person though is he? He's just determining the guy's bad at a videogame... Big deal...

brumbarr #16 Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:17 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 October 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

 

What it does do however, is give you a good measure of the person passing judgement on someone he has never met based on a series of 'statistics'

We arent judging the person, we are judging how good he plays WOT.


Edited by brumbarr, 20 October 2017 - 10:18 PM.


Erwin_Von_Braun #17 Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:17 PM

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View PostMimos_A, on 20 October 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

 

He's not passing judgement on the person as a person though is he? He's just determining the guy's bad at a videogame... Big deal...

 

That's what I said?

You've made an incorrect assumption there my friend.

 

View Postbrumbarr, on 20 October 2017 - 09:17 PM, said:

We arent judging the person, we are judging the player.

 

Not the same then?
 

Mimos_A #18 Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:20 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 October 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

 

Not the same then?

 

No. You can be an excellent bloke, but completely rubbish at this game.

Erwin_Von_Braun #19 Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:24 PM

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View PostMimos_A, on 20 October 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

 

No. You can be an excellent bloke, but completely rubbish at this game.

 

 

Hard to separate the player from the person.

Unfortunately, bitter experience on these forums has taught me that elitist players tend to treat low skill players with contempt.

I guess mocking others makes them feel better about themselves?


 



Mimos_A #20 Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:28 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 20 October 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

 

 

Hard to separate the player from the person.

Unfortunately, bitter experience on these forums has taught me that elitist players tend to treat low skill players with contempt.

I guess mocking others makes them feel better about themselves?


 

 

I don't know why you're trying to look for some connection between someone's skill as a player and whether someone is a good person or not. There's absolute tossers along the entire spectrum of the playerbase, just as there's nice people along the entire spectrum.







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