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Snatch_The_AmmoRacks #1 Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:45 PM

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So what exactly did WG fix with the mm? They've achieved the equal distribution of vehicles but one of the biggest issues was being slammed bottom tier especially at tier 8. Yeah it hasn't changed a single bit. I've played enough battles now to know that MM is still hopeless. In fact previously if I played solo I could get a few top tier/equal tier games. Now solo or not it's mostly bottom tier. 

 



Stat_Padder #2 Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:49 PM

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View PostJuicyProduction, on 21 October 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

still hopeless. 

 

 

Play better ?

 



Snatch_The_AmmoRacks #3 Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:01 PM

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View PostStat_Padder, on 21 October 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

Play better ?

 

 

Doesn't change the fact that MM is not actually fixed though does it. Try and reply with something decent.

Ziurawka #4 Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:01 PM

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View PostStat_Padder, on 21 October 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

 

Play better ?

 

 

Honestly? There is still someone who considers tier VIII matchmaking not broken?

I've returned to the game from wows for a while just to see the game ageing worse than this:

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Maybe it's everyone's fault for pushing to tier X at all cost...



Matcorr #5 Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:34 PM

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I've definitely noticed a change, although I've only been playing tier 6 so I don't know about tier 8 but in Type 64 and Cromwell B I've been getting very few bottom tier games unlike last week when it was the opposite.

Snatch_The_AmmoRacks #6 Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:43 PM

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View PostMatcorr, on 21 October 2017 - 07:34 PM, said:

I've definitely noticed a change, although I've only been playing tier 6 so I don't know about tier 8 but in Type 64 and Cromwell B I've been getting very few bottom tier games unlike last week when it was the opposite.

 

Give me a shout when you tested the waters at tier 8. I'm curious.

Anxter_ #7 Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:50 PM

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Tier 8 still useless to play but at least they fixed the few matches where the teams were just set up so one-sided that it was basically an auto-win for one team if they played even remotely competently. Just platoon tier 9 and 10 and sell tanks to gain credits until WG fixes tier 8 matchmaking and/or strongholds to be worth playing.

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Garbage, esc is my best friend these days... :great:

Edited by RinTin_NL, 21 October 2017 - 08:57 PM.


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View PostJuicyProduction, on 21 October 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

So what exactly did WG fix with the mm? They've achieved the equal distribution of vehicles but one of the biggest issues was being slammed bottom tier especially at tier 8. Yeah it hasn't changed a single bit. I've played enough battles now to know that MM is still hopeless. In fact previously if I played solo I could get a few top tier/equal tier games. Now solo or not it's mostly bottom tier. 

 

 

there has been nothing wrong with the matchmaking since the game started, so not sure what your barking about

Cobra6 #10 Posted 21 October 2017 - 09:13 PM

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MM should be as follows:

33% top tier

33% mid tier

33% bottom tier

1% deviation

 

Which is fair and balanced on everyone.

 

Currently we have:

10% top tier

40% mid tier

50% bottom tier

 

Which is absolute garbage for any tank that isn't tier 10.

 

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Having said that, platoon MM is slightly better but still not good enough. Platoons need to get exactly the same MM as a player playing solo, stop punishing platooning in an online team based game.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 21 October 2017 - 09:15 PM.


RamRaid90 #11 Posted 21 October 2017 - 09:17 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 21 October 2017 - 08:13 PM, said:

MM should be as follows:

33% top tier

33% mid tier

33% bottom tier

1% deviation

 

Which is fair and balanced on everyone.

 

Currently we have:

10% top tier

40% mid tier

50% bottom tier

 

Which is absolute garbage for any tank that isn't tier 10.

 

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Having said that, platoon MM is slightly better but still not good enough. Platoons need to get exactly the same MM as a player playing solo, stop punishing platooning in an online team based game.

 

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but but then the 40% wr players will be hopelessly outmatched and cry platoons are OP...

Cobra6 #12 Posted 21 October 2017 - 09:19 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 21 October 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

 

but but then the 40% wr players will be hopelessly outmatched and cry platoons are OP...

 

Yeah that is a big issue with the playerbase indeed, always finding fault with everything a part from themselves. Which also explains why they never get any better and keep blaming the world.

 

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View PostMatcorr, on 21 October 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I've definitely noticed a change, although I've only been playing tier 6 so I don't know about tier 8 but in Type 64 and Cromwell B I've been getting very few bottom tier games unlike last week when it was the opposite.

 

lucky you, i'm bottom tier every other game at tier 6 

 

 



Vajsravana #14 Posted 21 October 2017 - 09:59 PM

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View PostZiurawka, on 21 October 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

 

Honestly? There is still someone who considers tier VIII matchmaking not broken?

 

Here. Of course, if you like a "let's club all those helpless -2 tiears seals" kind of game, you can call it "broken". I don't, so I can't see what's all the fuss about it.

 

 

 



laulaur #15 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:48 PM

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Only a retard can say that there is no problem with the MM and is working fine!

Really WG, how much time must pass to fix the damn MM????



unhappy_bunny #16 Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:05 AM

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Just my reading of the situation:

Maybe the problem lies with the choice of tank each player makes before pressing battle.

If MM is set up to balance the tanks within classes as well as the classes themselves, and is set to distribute them primarily in the 3/5/7 format, then if there are just as many TX and T9 vehicles as there are T8, at the moment of team composition, there is a higher chance of more T8's being used to fill the 7 slots ie bottom tier, and therefore less chance of T8's being top tier. Otherwise the  T9 and TX's would face unacceptable (according to MM parameters) waiting times for battles. 

So the answer is to player less TX  and T9 tanks,  or for WG to change MM  to favour more all TX battles. That should really complicate the MM calculations.



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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 22 October 2017 - 12:05 AM, said:

Just my reading of the situation:

Maybe the problem lies with the choice of tank each player makes before pressing battle.

If MM is set up to balance the tanks within classes as well as the classes themselves, and is set to distribute them primarily in the 3/5/7 format, then if there are just as many TX and T9 vehicles as there are T8, at the moment of team composition, there is a higher chance of more T8's being used to fill the 7 slots ie bottom tier, and therefore less chance of T8's being top tier. Otherwise the  T9 and TX's would face unacceptable (according to MM parameters) waiting times for battles. 

So the answer is to player less TX  and T9 tanks,  or for WG to change MM  to favour more all TX battles. That should really complicate the MM calculations.

 

Somehow I didn't ever mind waiting ~2 minutes for a game - it happens at night in wows.

Aiming to make the wait period as short as possible is what makes the mechanism crap.

That and all the money that comes from people rushing tier X with all they've got... I honestly don't understand why people like fighting mouses, type 5s or getting clipped for over 1.5k

 



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View PostLCpl_Jones, on 21 October 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

 

lucky you, i'm bottom tier every other game at tier 6 

 

 

 

make that bottom tier 2 out of 3 :(

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I miss +3mm for scouts:(

It was fun being the underdog - only tier v in a tier viii game:playing:



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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 21 October 2017 - 11:38 PM, said:

I miss +3mm for scouts:(

It was fun being the underdog - only tier v in a tier viii game:playing:

 

Being the only light on your team too, all the spots. Unless their light decides to yolo you and messes it up.




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