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Strategic_mind #1 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:47 PM

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I'm starting this topic cause i'm wondering why tanks that have 2 sets of guns like the B1 Bis and M3 Lee/Grant, i don't know how many know about it, but the 57 mm on the B1 was not it's main gun, that was the 75mm howitzer built into it's hull just like on the M3 Lee, where the M3 Lee had the 75mm in the hull the 57mm on the top was it's secondary gun not just a pretty ornament to make the tank bigger and more useless, so i'm wondering why they can't use the 2 guns it has like in War Thunder, cause they don't seem to have problems with either maschine guns or multi turrented tanks like the A1E1 and the T-35.



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I hope WG buff Defender to two guns so that it has a chance against TVP VTU.

laulaur #3 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:52 PM

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WG can't even make contacts and the sound to work... And you want to shoot more guns? lol

They would probably make you shoot yourself with the second gun, they have as employees just people who have no idea about tanks or games

 

View Postqpranger, on 21 October 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

I hope WG buff Defender to two guns so that it has a chance against TVP VTU.

 

Ha, in your dreams! Even with 2 autoloader guns, Defender does not have any chance in front of the mighty TVP VTU!

 


Edited by laulaur, 21 October 2017 - 10:54 PM.


unrealname #4 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:55 PM

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Yeah why not, im still waiting for them to remove IS4 and put the ST-2 at tier 10 with 2 guns :)


Edited by Bond90, 21 October 2017 - 10:56 PM.


Aikl #5 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:58 PM

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View PostBond90, on 21 October 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

Yeah why not, im still waiting for them to remove IS4 and put the ST-2 at tier 10 with 2 guns :)

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Might be a bit easier to implement than a "true" multigun setup.

 

I think the multi-gun concept predated fudgin' Havok physics. We're getting them now, though, in a sense. :P



unhappy_bunny #6 Posted 21 October 2017 - 11:35 PM

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Cool idea, I wonder why this has never been suggested before? 

Oh silly me, it has.  

 

So the OP would like 2 sets of ammo, presumably with a choise of 3 types for each gun, another key to select the alt gun, another zoom, another sniper view, and another fire button, and i assume he wants to fire each gun at the same time but in different directions.

Oh and of course, he'd need another gunlayer and rammer, maybe another loader and gunner, and to be safe, better have a 2nd commander to designate the second target. That lot will test peoples skills for sure.



MeetriX #7 Posted 22 October 2017 - 01:17 AM

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Training would be fun.

B1's driver was also a gunner and the hull gun had zero arc horizontally.



Panokko #8 Posted 22 October 2017 - 01:28 AM

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The MTLS has 2 working guns

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Enforcer1975 #9 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:47 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 21 October 2017 - 10:50 PM, said:

I hope WG buff Defender to two guns so that it has a chance against TVP VTU.

 

They could add this as side armor..... ( 1:05 )  I fear they might even do it as a joke event.


Edited by Enforcer1975, 22 October 2017 - 03:48 AM.


Homer_J #10 Posted 22 October 2017 - 07:57 AM

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View PostStrategic_mind, on 21 October 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

I'm starting this topic cause i'm wondering why tanks that have 2 sets of guns like the B1 Bis and M3 Lee/Grant, i don't know how many know about it, but the 57 mm on the B1 was not it's main gun, that was the 75mm howitzer built into it's hull just like on the M3 Lee, where the M3 Lee had the 75mm in the hull the 57mm on the top was it's secondary gun not just a pretty ornament to make the tank bigger and more useless, so i'm wondering why they can't use the 2 guns it has like in War Thunder, cause they don't seem to have problems with either maschine guns or multi turrented tanks like the A1E1 and the T-35.

 

It was being worked on, in fact at one time they said the French tree could not be implemented without it.  Then was put on hold.  Recently there were hints it was maybe being worked on again but what use would the 2nd gun on the M3 Lee be in WoT?  There are no soft targets to take on.  And the 75mm on the B1 would probably be too much at it's tier.



Lil_Dimitry #11 Posted 22 October 2017 - 07:58 AM

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While i truly don't care about lowtiers, you can have 12 gun barrels if you want to, please don;t bring them in higher tiers, that;s the last thing wot needs.

leggasiini #12 Posted 22 October 2017 - 08:04 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 22 October 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

 

And the 75mm on the B1 would probably be too much at it's tier.

AFAIK it only had HE. 75 mm HE is not really amazing against anything with armor. Though yeah, it would be quite broken because it would still suck against anything with armor but now its OP af VS paper targets.



Nishi_Kinuyo #13 Posted 22 October 2017 - 10:16 AM

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No mention of the Japanese heavies yet with their multiple guns?

Just imagine the delight of all those LTs trying to circle them to death, and instead got multiple 47mm cannons to deal with as well.

Or were it 37mm cannons... eh anyhow, LTs will love being shot at a lot more.



Hellfoxe #14 Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:28 PM

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View PostStrategic_mind, on 21 October 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

I'm starting this topic cause i'm wondering why tanks that have 2 sets of guns like the B1 Bis and M3 Lee/Grant, i don't know how many know about it, but the 57 mm on the B1 was not it's main gun, that was the 75mm howitzer built into it's hull just like on the M3 Lee, where the M3 Lee had the 75mm in the hull the 57mm on the top was it's secondary gun not just a pretty ornament to make the tank bigger and more useless, so i'm wondering why they can't use the 2 guns it has like in War Thunder, cause they don't seem to have problems with either maschine guns or multi turrented tanks like the A1E1 and the T-35.

 

Topic about the using the second guns was created 3 years ago by someone and wg answer was to difficult to handle two guns for the player to use in battle. The second gun must auto shooting or you must switch gun like ammo. WOT is not WOWS where the secondary guns fire automatic.

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View Postleggasiini, on 22 October 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

AFAIK it only had HE. 75 mm HE is not really amazing against anything with armor. Though yeah, it would be quite broken because it would still suck against anything with armor but now its OP af VS paper targets.

 

I beleive it had both APHE and HE.

Shivva #16 Posted 22 October 2017 - 05:50 PM

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No idea how or if they will ever add multi-gun mechanism into the game ...but if they do I'd hope they impliment it along similar lines to how your AA guns and secondary armament work in Warships. For anyone unfamaliar with this basically the guns autotarget and autofire at enemy within range, you can switch them on or off depending if you want to blow your camo rating.

 

It's not something I'm too keen to see added (jap heavies) but if they ever do I think that would be the most workable option.


Edited by Shivva, 22 October 2017 - 05:51 PM.


Ragnaguard #17 Posted 22 October 2017 - 11:04 PM

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expecting the patch with this option available....

hell i d love my new t 10 KV-2

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by Ragnaguard, 22 October 2017 - 11:05 PM.


Balc0ra #18 Posted 22 October 2017 - 11:07 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 21 October 2017 - 10:52 PM, said:

WG can't even make contacts and the sound to work... And you want to shoot more guns? lol

They would probably make you shoot yourself with the second gun, they have as employees just people who have no idea about tanks or games

 

Then again considering how much you lot whine about different aspects about this game. Do you really want them to waste time on getting a small handful of multi guns tanks to work vs fixing other issues?

 

Last WG was asked about this, that was more or less what they said. To few tanks to even be bothered about it. And M3 Lee's roof gun would not even pen a tier 4. 



Derethim #19 Posted 22 October 2017 - 11:49 PM

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Multigun support. Promised™ since 2011.

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