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Poll: Proposal for change of Russian Mediums tech tree (T-62A branch) (7 members have cast votes)

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Do you find the current version of the technology branch or the one I am proposing more correct?

  1. the current one is more correct (5 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. your proposal is more correct (2 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

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ValkyrionX #1 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:35 PM

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this is a small proposal, because in my opinion the current tech tree leading to the T62A is totally wrong 

As you well know, the t44 and all its variants have marked the passage and therefore the total abandonment of all t34 tanks, tanks used in large scale (and its many variants) during the ww2 period.
The t44 saw its coming into service in 1944 and lived for a very short time the second world conflict.
On the end of the war, the t54 replace the obsolete t44 , they are tanks that are coexisted and I think that they are put together in the russian technological tree both as Tier 8.
The t-54a I propose as new tier 9 in the Russian tech tree is the next step to t54/55 family and its variants and would historically be more correct in time because it saw its production in the 1950 and would be the right one to t62a product in the early 1960, between the current t54 tier 9 and t62a tier X are more than 20 years of difference, totally absurd in my opinion; more so than the current tier 9 is the original T-54-1 which has a turret that resembles that of the t34 85 and nothing to do with the further developments that led to the production of the t62 and its variants, given the time gap between the models in question.

 

 

 

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teall me yours!! 

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DuncaN_101 #2 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:46 PM

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Yes we need another t54 clone in the game... Good idea

ValkyrionX #3 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:50 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 22 October 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

Yes we need another t54 clone in the game... Good idea

 

the t54a is not a clone of anything because it would historically be more correct as tier 9 in time terms of t 54-1 currently level 9

clearly if it was a tier 8, it would be nerfed, and brought to the performance levels of an average tier 8


Edited by ValkyrionX, 22 October 2017 - 02:52 PM.


DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:51 PM

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I still don't see the need for yet another ruski medium

ValkyrionX #5 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:54 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 22 October 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

I still don't see the need for yet another ruski medium

 

between t 54-1 and t62a there are 20 years of tanks in the middle ...

that there is a medium tank in more or less the game does not change anything, balancing problems are not these but others


Edited by ValkyrionX, 22 October 2017 - 02:54 PM.


Aikl #6 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:56 PM

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T-62A isn't really a T-62, though. First off, the actual T-62 is more or less T-54-based. T-62A is a modernized Obj. 140 turret on a lengthened and strenghtened T-54 chassis. 140 development began around 1957.

 

I don't see the need either. Maybe if the T-62A got more special gameplay you could argue for a more 'dedicated' variant, but nah.



DuncaN_101 #7 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:59 PM

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Since when is WG bothered by historically correctness? Unless when it suits them?

I'm sorry but all I'm seeing is another medium xp sink.


ValkyrionX #8 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:06 PM

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View PostAikl, on 22 October 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

T-62A isn't really a T-62, though. First off, the actual T-62 is more or less T-54-based. T-62A is a modernized Obj. 140 turret on a lengthened and strenghtened T-54 chassis. 140 development began around 1957.

 

I don't see the need either. Maybe if the T-62A got more special gameplay you could argue for a more 'dedicated' variant, but nah.

 

I would like to remind you that the obj140 is a prototype that has never seen the service and that is not the model we are discussing even though it is the father of the t62 hull armor, the t62 and all its variants have seen the service and historically it would be more correct to put the current tier 9, the t54 (which is actually the t54-1 , the first prototype of t54) as tier 8 since it has briefly lived with t44 and was produced shortly after the end of ww2, the difference between t 62 and t62a is in the presence of a simple anti-aircraft machine gun


ValkyrionX #9 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:10 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 22 October 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

Since when is WG bothered by historically correctness? Unless when it suits them?

I'm sorry but all I'm seeing is another medium xp sink.

 

and according to you who should help improve the game? are we players or WG developers who are only doing disasters in these 2/3 years?

it seems like a corny proposal....

 


Edited by ValkyrionX, 22 October 2017 - 03:11 PM.


Aikl #10 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:17 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 22 October 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

I would like to remind you that the obj140 is a prototype that has never seen the service and that is not the model we are discussing even though it is the father of the t62 hull armor, the t62 and all its variants have seen the service and historically it would be more correct to put the current tier 9, the t54 (which is actually the t54-1 , the first prototype of t54) as tier 8 since it has briefly lived with t44 and was produced shortly after the end of ww2, the difference between t 62 and t62a is in the presence of a simple anti-aircraft machine gun

 

Might want to reread Wikipedia, mate.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62

 T-62A (Ob'yekt 165) – Predecessor of T-62. It was essentially a stretched T-55 chassis with a 2245 mm turret ring, a new suspension, and an Ob'yekt 140 turret modernized with the addition of a spent-cartridge ejector; armed with the 100 mm D-54TS (also sometimes called U-8TS) tank gun equipped with the "Kometa" two-plane stabilizer. Only five entered service.[7][8]

 

The T-62A had a rifled gun, not the production T-62's 115mm smoothbore.

 

Anyway, it's probably more important whether a tank fits into the line than whether it fits into historical development.


Edited by Aikl, 22 October 2017 - 03:25 PM.


Dava_117 #11 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:19 PM

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If you move T-54 to tier 8, wouldn't then be better to use T-55 as tier 9, rather than a second T-54?

ValkyrionX #12 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:36 PM

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yeah but we have the t55a in the game actually, the t54a or the t54b are better for the t62 branch

Edited by ValkyrionX, 22 October 2017 - 03:40 PM.


DuncaN_101 #13 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:41 PM

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Putting stuff in a bigger font doesn't make it different.

Look I'm all for improvement of the game but honestly how is this going to improve anything other than adding yet another ruski tank?

leggasiini #14 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:46 PM

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Dont see the point. Maybe if you downtiered the T-44 as well and took the 100mm guns away. There is already a T-44 with 100mm gun as a premium,s o it would work. But other than that...why bother.

 

Maybe if you added another tier 9 aswell, so you could have proper minibranches. One tier 9 leads to 62A, one to 140.



qqq10 #15 Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:50 PM

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Yes, more ruskie pancakes, that's exactly what we need...

Dava_117 #16 Posted 22 October 2017 - 04:48 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 22 October 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

yeah but we have the t55a in the game actually, the t54a or the t54b are better for the t62 branch

Well, we have also T-54 proto that is more or less what you would add. Plus the T-54 that is in game already cover the first production with stock turret and late production with top one.






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