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mus__tang #1 Posted 23 October 2017 - 08:40 AM

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Matchmaking must be repaired now.

The matches must be +1 and -1.

8 tier tanks cannot penetrate 10 tiers.

8 kademe tankı mermilerini 100 hasardan daha fazla ateş etmemektedir.(he bullet)

it is necessary to find an urgent solution.



shishx_the_animal #2 Posted 23 October 2017 - 08:57 AM

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magkiln #3 Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:06 AM

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No need, though I would prefer a 4:5:6 distribution over the 3:5:7.

G01ngToxicCommand0 #4 Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:44 AM

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 23 October 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

 

When I turn a 107 years old I will still be LMAOROFL'ing when seeing that woman yell NOOOOOOO! in despair - that will never ever get old :trollface:

Jigabachi #5 Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:51 AM

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No, thanks. I prefer if they just fixed the gamebalance. The tierspread is completely fine. The variety it adds easily outweighs the frustration it causes sometimes.

jack_timber #6 Posted 23 October 2017 - 11:47 AM

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Quite enjoy being T8 TD in a TX battle. If you can't pen, are you sure?, Then just spot for those that can:)

HundeWurst #7 Posted 23 October 2017 - 11:48 AM

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 23 October 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

 

Shishx 6

pecopad #8 Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:18 PM

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IMHO games should be of the same tier, and eventually +-1 if queuing time is high.

 

This is a tiered game, never understood the +-2 MM need. 


Edited by pecopad, 23 October 2017 - 12:18 PM.


Spurtung #9 Posted 23 October 2017 - 02:06 PM

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View PostG01ngToxicCommand0, on 23 October 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

 

When I turn a 107 years old I will still be LMAOROFL'ing when seeing that woman yell NOOOOOOO! in despair - that will never ever get old :trollface:

 



Stat_Padder #10 Posted 23 October 2017 - 02:20 PM

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View Post__MeHMeT___007, on 23 October 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:

Matchmaking must be repaired now.

The matches must be +1 and -1.

8 tier tanks cannot penetrate 10 tiers.

8 kademe tankı mermilerini 100 hasardan daha fazla ateş etmemektedir.(he bullet)

it is necessary to find an urgent solution.

 

Don't think even -2 would help you by the look of your stats :child:

unhappy_bunny #11 Posted 23 October 2017 - 02:24 PM

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View Post__MeHMeT___007, on 23 October 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

Matchmaking must be repaired now.

The matches must be +1 and -1.

8 tier tanks cannot penetrate 10 tiers.

8 kademe tankı mermilerini 100 hasardan daha fazla ateş etmemektedir.(he bullet)

it is necessary to find an urgent solution.

 

1. Why? 

2. Why?

3. They have 7 other T8's to fight and only 3 T10's. 

4. What?

5. First find a problem needing an urgent solution, then show why a solution is necessary.



Haikonnen #12 Posted 23 October 2017 - 02:47 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 23 October 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

 

1. Why? 

2. Why?

3. They have 7 other T8's to fight and only 3 T10's. 

4. What?

5. First find a problem needing an urgent solution, then show why a solution is necessary.

 

1. Because 3-5-7 template is destined to fail. If you have a tier that is played more than other tiers - which tier 8 probably is (I mean I have no hard data ofc, but it is logical given there are all the best premium tanks), MM has a lot of single tier tanks that it needs to distribute... fastest way to do that is to get rid of as many of them as fast as it can. Therefore the chance is much higher that it will a) create single tier matches, b) because higher tiers need to be distributed according to 3-5-7 template as well and there are no tiers above T10, T8 is destined to be bottom tier much more. So you play T8 almost all the time against T10. And it is sickening.

 

2. See this topic: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/647515-the-3-5-7-template-isnt-to-blame-its-the-2-2-matchmaking/

 

3. If there are competent players in T10 they are the ones deciding the battle. I dont fkin care about being a lowest tier support tank, I want to enjoy being able to decide the battles again....

 

4. Have no idea too, but it's turkish

 

5. This is a problem that needs an urgent solution. Just take a look at the forums. Everyday several new topics about MM. Why? Because, but it's just an estimate, majority of people obviously agree that there is a problem in the game. If nothing else "GET RID OF 3-5-7 TEMPLATE ALREADY: IT PROVED TO BE A TOTAL FAILURE".

 

Now of course if they go back to the way MM was distributing tanks before... people will start complaining about there being too many T10 tanks in the team, if they play T8... And yeah with poor map design that WG has, it is hard to flank a higher tier tank. So after all - the only logical way to solve these problems is to make MM +-1. I think there are enough people playing the game for that. And since lights were reworked so the no longer need -+3 MM there is literally no reason for WG not to implement +-1 MM. Only their greed... because they want us to shoot gold all the time.

 

I went into more detail here: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/648206-fixing-wot/page__p__14920454#entry14920454


Edited by Haikonnen, 23 October 2017 - 02:53 PM.


hson_hson #13 Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:34 AM

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View PostHaikonnen, on 23 October 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

 

1. Because 3-5-7 template is destined to fail. If you have a tier that is played more than other tiers - which tier 8 probably is (I mean I have no hard data ofc, but it is logical given there are all the best premium tanks), 

 

Here are the numbers from vBAddict based on data from those players who upload their battles to vBAddict so there could be differences overall, but we get the picture...

http://www.vbaddict.net/statistics.php?tier=0&tanktype=0&nation=0&premium=0&modeid=0&team=0&battles=1000&groupby=1&fieldname=battles&server=

 



Gavrilac #14 Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:45 AM

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Yes, it would be better to have only 2 tiers in one game.

Long_Range_Sniper #15 Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:57 AM

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View Post__MeHMeT___007, on 23 October 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:

The matches must be +1 and -1.

 

With some tanks currently balanced as 8+ tanks, this will be fun.

 

If you can't wait, then here's a replay about what will happen.

 



Vajsravana #16 Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:13 AM

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No, boring, thanks for posting this again, next one...

OreH75 #17 Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:52 AM

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View Post__MeHMeT___007, on 23 October 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

8 kademe tankı mermilerini 100 hasardan daha fazla ateş etmemektedir.(he bullet)

 

No need to put in a turkish sentence on the english speaking part of the forum to show you are turkish..we could have guessed that based on player name.



KillingJoker #18 Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:09 AM

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I dont like this idea of limiting mm to one tier up and down...

 

 iam even against this 3-5-7 mm type WG delivered...

 

You know, just because most of the player base struggle to be competitive 2 tiers under... that doesnt mean they should remove it...

 

there are still great players who are cappable of doing spectacular results against 2 tiers higher tanks... and if you limit the mm to one tier up and down...

your going to limit the possibility of great players doing spectacular displays against tier ups...

 

I mean, before they did the 3-5-7 mm, i seen guys with tier V tanks do absolutly monster games in tier 7 enviroment, i am talking about LOTS OF DAMAGE:..

there was a guy oince that did a record damage with a panzer IV H, and he cant do it anymore, because they nerfed the mm to a level, where he only see's 2 tier 7s

 

so the possibility of great players doing monster games (with more than 4k damage with a tier V) is now reduced to nothing, because there isnt enough XP in play

for it...

 



KillingJoker #19 Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:14 AM

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View Post__MeHMeT___007, on 23 October 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

Matchmaking must be repaired now.

The matches must be +1 and -1.

8 tier tanks cannot penetrate 10 tiers.

8 kademe tankı mermilerini 100 hasardan daha fazla ateş etmemektedir.(he bullet)

it is necessary to find an urgent solution.

 

I tell you what....

 

Wanna be the James bond bad [edited]?? pick a Tier 8 tank and play wiith Skill, and destroy tier X's...


FEELLS GOOD MAN, FEELS GOOD WHEN YOU DO IT...

 

 






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