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T-34-3: Upholding a Promise.


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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:54 PM

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(thanks waffle for the picture)

 

SO! i said id make a review of this thing after i did 500 battles in it for the guy who bought me it.

 

Been a long and windy road playing this thing. its been buffed so much over the long course of me playing this thing that im not sure if i CAN review it. as im only talking about this tank in its current state and it was much worse before this point.

 

ARMOR:

 

Hull 100/80/45

Turret 200/130/60

 

Since day 1 people have complained about the armor and rightfully so! the armor was not as stated as they lower front plate was actually WEAKER by a large magin than the upper plate. 90mm top plate but the lower plate was a garbage 50mm and a worse angle, making even tier 6 tanks autopen you there. the sides was 50mm so 150+ calibers could triple overmatch and the turret had weak zones all over the mantle (as little at 150 effective). the cupolas was only 100mm and the roof was rather prominent.

 

NOW however, the lower plate is 100mm as well at the upper plate being 100mm but the best thing is? the lower plate is angled MORE than the upper plate making it even stronger!! You can now angle enough to stop 175 pen guns or troll bounce even slightly higher pen ones. the turret is even more dome shaped and all the weak spot zones are gone. as a added bonus the cupolas are 150mm and very hard to hit! (screw you E25). most times i get my Optics destroyed without taking any damage to my tank.

 

80mm side armor allows for far more agressive sidescraping than before, when you sidescrape you have no major weakness besides playing poorly and overangling! for a medium thats pretty amazing. the rear is 45mm.. well.. its not stellar but its more than the side's of a Emil1's 20mm hull right? at least its not triple overmatch for 90mm guns! that makes it nice enough.

 

Also one last thing, T-34-3 with the new armor doesent take a boat load of damage by arty if not directly hit for some reason. tho if it hits that 15mm hull roof armor you gonna have a bad time.

 

 

FIREPOWER:

 

390Alpha with 175AP 250HEAT -5 gundep (very good for a 122mm in a dome turret) and around 1.7kDPM

 

This is where things get wonkey, the alpha is amazing for a tier 8 medium but the hard part is delivering that alpha, with poor penetration and terrible gun handling it makes dealing with tanks with any form of armor difficult and hitting tanks even with no armor hard (enemy T-34-3 shot my 13 57GF and damaged my tracks side on, took no damage).

 

The dispersion (soft stats)  arent too bad but coupled with long aimtime and god awefull arty accuracy values being 0.46!! and low pen can make the gun really fustrating to use 175pen is not too bad itself, but 25% RNG can make that number go super low and bounce same tier mediums!. i have shot the turret of a Liberte while im aiming at the massive flat side of him only a few inches away, i was not happy!.

 

With Snapshot/Smooth Ride and Food consumable the guns works allot better (shouldent have to use food to make the tank shoot straight!). it sucks but if you pen your HEAT or play smart with AP you can still break even or make credits (depends on the MM). Vstabs/Vents/Rammer, The gun with this setup is usable and it can still put the hurt on all tiers you face!

 

 

MOBILITY

 

Sluggish! but its not terrible and the top speed is 50 (why Type59 go 56?) it can get to it most times on flat ground but as soon as you see a hill it really feels like im playing a Super Pershing (or it just feels that way). For the armor/alpha combo ill take the hit in mobility, its not terrible but its not great ether its SERVICEABLE and gets you where you need to go.

 

Other good stuff:

 

Good camo!

I sat in the open vs some tier 9 tanks (or maybe they had bad crews) and i was spotting them all while not getting spotted myself even while moving. yesterday i shot a good few tier 8 tanks and did not get spotted even after firing!

 

Low Profile!

Being a small target in WoT has is perks! you can use more cover and makes your already good troll armor even more troll as they have to aim longer to hit you. very good combo with the camo it has. plus you can facehug tanks and let your amazing turret do its work, tho be carefull when doing so. you are small so you cant hit roof armor to triple overmatch tanks like IS-3, make sure you got support when doing this. works best on german tanks.

 

Edit: 380 base viewrange is very good, especially for a preff medium with good camo values.

 

TLDR:

The tanks got problems still but it WORKS if you a willing to use food and fire HEAT only when needed. yes i know a premium is made for grinding money but try telling WG that. with the current MM problems of constantly facing tier 10, a preff MM with such traits as this has more value than ever, id rather have 175pen than 190 and face tier 10. the armor holds up very well and can troll bounce many higher pen guns (dont rely on it tho) and it can sidescrape now!

 

Gun needs a accuracy buff, maybe more aimtime and its golden, the armors fine, mobilitys fine, all it needs it to actually hit a weak spot with the current MM / Overbuffed heavies.

 

Currently my most Favorite tier 8 medium and probably tier 8 in general.

 

 


Edited by Search_Warrant, 25 October 2017 - 03:53 PM.


Dalerius_PL #2 Posted 25 October 2017 - 04:34 PM

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"Gun needs a accuracy buff, maybe more aimtime and its golden,"

They buff now in this path  aim time from 3,4 > 2,9 

With BIA +wents = 2,4   :D


Edited by Dalerius_PL, 25 October 2017 - 04:37 PM.


Search_Warrant #3 Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:38 PM

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View PostDalerius_PL, on 25 October 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

"Gun needs a accuracy buff, maybe more aimtime and its golden,"

They buff now in this path  aim time from 3,4 > 2,9 

With BIA +wents = 2,4   :D

 

Sadly dont have BIA, main problem being the Accuracy tho. aimtime can stay as is if they improve that alone. 0.46!

FluffyRedFox #4 Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:49 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 25 October 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

 

Sadly dont have BIA

500 games and yet no BIA? 



leggasiini #5 Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:50 PM

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>mfw it sometimes felt like that search's t-34-3 bounced more stuff than my kv-5

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Search_Warrant #6 Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:50 PM

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View Postfishbob101, on 25 October 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

500 games and yet no BIA? 

 

Nope..i forgot what i put on them... probs need to retrain them.

 

Also lol yeh me n legga had some epic games yesterday. bullied a IS-3 and then later i took on T-34-3 and Pilot1. survived :P


Edited by Search_Warrant, 25 October 2017 - 05:53 PM.


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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 25 October 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

 

Nope..i forgot what i put on them... probs need to retrain them.

I would've said inb4 firefighting but I guess thats not the worse option on this thing



Eila_Juutilainen #8 Posted 25 October 2017 - 06:00 PM

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Search's tears alone make this the best 40.09 I spent on this game.

Search_Warrant #9 Posted 25 October 2017 - 06:00 PM

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View Postfishbob101, on 25 October 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

I would've said inb4 firefighting but I guess thats not the worse option on this thing

 

Oddly enough i cant remember being set on fire much since the update. guess thats to do with the LFP armor while angled becomes pretty troll now. so setting it on fire is harder.

Edited by Search_Warrant, 25 October 2017 - 06:00 PM.


dennez #10 Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:26 AM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 25 October 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:

 

Oddly enough i cant remember being set on fire much since the update. guess thats to do with the LFP armor while angled becomes pretty troll now. so setting it on fire is harder.

 

Firefighting is useless and the thing doesnt burn much.. Ammorack is a problem tho, if they hit your left side you're pretty much ammoracked 10 outta 10.

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I'm having a good time with the T-34-3 after the buff (secretly I liked it before the buff) and yes it is currently my favourite tier VIII premium tank. What do I like? Well the armour works now, that's the main thing. The gun remains a bit frustrating, I know it's not a sniper but I can hit on target across the battlefield and miss from a few yards away, although the HEAT it fires feels like magic compared with HEAT in other tanks, I hardly ever hear 'that one didn't go through' even when accidentally hitting places HEAT shouldn't be used on. AP pen should be buffed a bit. And just on a frivolous point, the tank does make a satisfying 'BOOM!' sound.

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Search_Warrant #12 Posted 26 February 2018 - 10:09 AM

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View Post250swb, on 30 October 2017 - 09:04 AM, said:

I'm having a good time with the T-34-3 after the buff (secretly I liked it before the buff) and yes it is currently my favourite tier VIII premium tank. What do I like? Well the armour works now, that's the main thing. The gun remains a bit frustrating, I know it's not a sniper but I can hit on target across the battlefield and miss from a few yards away, although the HEAT it fires feels like magic compared with HEAT in other tanks, I hardly ever hear 'that one didn't go through' even when accidentally hitting places HEAT shouldn't be used on. AP pen should be buffed a bit. And just on a frivolous point, the tank does make a satisfying 'BOOM!' sound.

 

Indeed. sad part is tanks like M4 Rev get 250 HEAT and get tier10! ill take my armored shotgun over that any day.

Da_chief_360 #13 Posted 26 February 2018 - 04:01 PM

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WG is planning to remove restricted MM for these old premiums so who knows, maybe this bucket will get much needed buffs to accuracy, aim time or pen one day? I'd like to see something drastic though, it doesn't serve any real purpose now that so many 105s with the same alpha and better stats are filling tier 8.

 

Restricted MM doesn't count for much when same tier opposition feels like it might as well be tier 10.



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View PostDa_chief_360, on 26 February 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

WG is planning to remove restricted MM for these old premiums so who knows, maybe this bucket will get much needed buffs to accuracy, aim time or pen one day? I'd like to see something drastic though, it doesn't serve any real purpose now that so many 105s with the same alpha and better stats are filling tier 8.

 

Restricted MM doesn't count for much when same tier opposition feels like it might as well be tier 10.

 

WG think mediums in general at tier 8 are balanced to face tier 8 tanks like defender. let alone tier 10. they said something about having the option to keep your preff version recently (a mod actually said this) and if the buffs are not good enough ill just opt-in to keep my T-34-3 as is, lets face it, WG cant balance tier 8 mediums for sh**.

NoobySkooby #15 Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:01 AM

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So basically is it any good then as it is in the shop right now.




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