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thestaggy #1 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:32 PM

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I'm probably jumping the gun here because it hasn't even gone live, but I've just been reading the news with regards to the Halloween special and it mentions multi-turreted tanks. This got me thinking; could this be a possible test bed for WG going forward as they explore the viability of introducing the mechanic in to the game?

Spurtung #2 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:39 PM

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Not likely, there's already a tank with 2 guns.

Besides, ships have multiple guns.

 

So it's not a matter of mechanics. The problem with the ST-II, as it is, is how to balance it around having 2 guns.



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View Postthestaggy, on 26 October 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

I'm probably jumping the gun here because it hasn't even gone live, but I've just been reading the news with regards to the Halloween special and it mentions multi-turreted tanks. This got me thinking; could this be a possible test bed for WG going forward as they explore the viability of introducing the mechanic in to the game?

 

yes please, can't wait to shoot twice as much gold

Balc0ra #4 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:39 PM

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Just like we expected wheeled tanks after the WWI event? Don't hold your breath.

 

Besides tank with a second hull locked gun like the B1 etc that is of a larger caliber. The M3 Lee roof turret gun would not be able to pen a tier 3 target reliably even, as it's of a way smaller caliber. So do you really need it?


Edited by Balc0ra, 26 October 2017 - 04:41 PM.


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View PostSpurtung, on 26 October 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

(...) The problem with the ST-II, as it is, is how to balance it around having 2 guns.

 

 

 

 

Technical test is possible, but I'm guessing it's more likely that they're using leftover code in a way. Efficient method to make something interesting without too much work.


Edited by Aikl, 26 October 2017 - 04:43 PM.


FluffyRedFox #6 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:42 PM

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Its certainly possible, and I also find it fishy that the higher tier French heavies were revealed but none of the lower tiers, and then there's an event where there are viable candidates for a lower tier French heavy line?

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View Postfishbob101, on 26 October 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

Its certainly possible, and I also find it fishy that the higher tier French heavies were revealed but none of the lower tiers, and then there's an event where there are viable candidates for a lower tier French heavy line?

 

Mmaybe, but if WG's as hung up on making every line super-consistent playstyle-wise as it may appear, they're probably shelfed. The higher-tier Frenchies aren't exactly superheavies, after all. Besides, no real need for another O-I/O-I Exp. wave of disease over T5/6.

 

...but there's nothing stopping WG from making them into multi-turret premium tanks, because screw balancing!



Balc0ra #8 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:59 PM

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View Postfishbob101, on 26 October 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

Its certainly possible, and I also find it fishy that the higher tier French heavies were revealed but none of the lower tiers, and then there's an event where there are viable candidates for a lower tier French heavy line?

 

How so? WT did allow the main guns to have the same reload as it would alone, but gave the other turrets crap pen, with only one AP and HE type to use on it. So it's only viable vs paper targets... much like their MG fire is.

 

Issues is that sure the M3 lee's top turret based on the tier II variant of it would be more or less that. But what about the B1? The hull gun there is basically a derp gun. So either you have to give that a long, long reload. Or reduce the roof turret ROF to compensate for the hull gun usage. Gotta remember that the B1 does not face tier 6 tanks. Churchill I is a bit easier, as it's basically a 3 inch derp. In WOT that has 175 damage max and low HE pen. And that can also be used as the main armament, and it's rather useless there, even less so in a tier 7 game, as you won't even do 50 damage to most targets.



Henschel_131 #9 Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:24 PM

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A difficult subject, because in reality multi-turreted tanks sucked and every nation soon realized it was better to have 1 good gun than 2 weak guns.

 

But in WoT things are different with the hp system, the average gun cannot one-shot opponents like real tank guns could, so dpm matters and a multi-turreted tank can chew up enemies with both weapons (unless they are really terrible and cannot pen anything).



Lil_Dimitry #10 Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:27 PM

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Put 50 barrels to all the tanks under tier 8 for all I care but please don't bring that in higher tiers.

Balc0ra #11 Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:15 PM

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View PostLil_Dimitry, on 26 October 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Put 50 barrels to all the tanks under tier 8 for all I care but please don't bring that in higher tiers.

 

Not that many that has it anyway. At the top of my head it's the B1, Churchill I "Derps locked to the hull", M3 Lee and the Grant that has a 47mm iirc. Then the Gr.Tr that has a rear MG, and the Jap HT's from tier 5 to 8. Tier 6 and 7 have two cannon turrets up front. Tier 5 and 8 has one cannon and one MG turret up front. Edit: Ofc the UK Cruiser I and Medium III has dual MG turrets up front. So it's mostly low to mid tiers.

Edited by Balc0ra, 26 October 2017 - 09:17 PM.


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Well isn't the ST-l replacement rumored to be have dual-guns?...

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View PostSpurtung, on 26 October 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

Not likely, there's already a tank with 2 guns.

Besides, ships have multiple guns.

 

So it's not a matter of mechanics. The problem with the ST-II, as it is, is how to balance it around having 2 guns.

 

It's balanced by an extra large ammorack.....imagine the explosion...



Phobos4321 #14 Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:54 PM

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i dont really want to see that

 

wouldnt it be mainly stuff that punishs paper tanks and scouts while almost every othe tank could ignore the secondary guns

 

also would be the 75mm gun for the maus do any good  fighting t10 it would be mostly pointless than again if multi guns allows stuff like permatracking it would be too much

 

WT system was really crap  without manually reworking your keybind target optics etc it wouldnt hit anything at all and even if it did it was mostly pointless

 

while the ships had a rather large crew secondarys there are ok  but for tanks? a loader loading your main gun cant load a 2nd at the same time  even with 2 loaders it would be stressing it

and if you were to reduce the rof of your main gun to gain a (mostly) small 2nd  would you call it improvement at all ?

 

its so tricky  and hard to balance i cant imagine wg  not ****ing it up  and if you ask me: not at all would be better than done real poorly






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