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Its Time To Nerf It: T67 (seriously WG)


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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:28 PM

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This tank is the sole reason i will never grind low tiers.. low tiers are beyond broken. this is one major offender that is broken beyond all limits. BS DPM, godlike camo. speed of a LT. its like a hellcat with a faster firing gun a tier lower. this tank is single handedly better than majority of TIER 6 TD's.

 

This tank has been broken longer than possibly KV-1 with the 152mm at tier 5! why has WG not done anything to combat this thing? i have had a few people now say they would grind new tank lines but there are too many stupidly broken low tier tanks. T67 being the most broken.

 

Look at this, its disgusting:

 

http://wot-news.com/game/tankinfo/en/eu/usa/A58_T67

 

SO WG, gonna nerf it sometime this universe? 

 

 


Edited by Search_Warrant, 26 October 2017 - 11:28 PM.


Balc0ra #2 Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:34 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 26 October 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

SO WG, gonna nerf it sometime this universe?

 

So what do you want to nerf on it then? As besides raging, you failed to point out what would make it "balanced" in your opinion? Less DPM?, no camo? locked turret at 75 degrees? 47mm gun? what?

 

Sure it's been the padder tank of choice on tier 5 for years, even by alt accounts. As I've seen a fair few alt accounts that only has games in this tank. Only thing I've always found odd about this and the Wolverine that is the only other turreted TD on tier 5. Is that vs other tiers, tier 5 has the turreted TD's as the highest DPM tanks there... until the Chinese tier 5 came that is. On other tiers the rule has always been that turrets = less DPM then most non turreted TD's with the same gun or caliber. Dump that down to 1800 and you might have a starting point. As that's what most tier 5 TD's are on, without a turret.


Edited by Balc0ra, 26 October 2017 - 11:35 PM.


Search_Warrant #3 Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:50 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 26 October 2017 - 10:34 PM, said:

 

So what do you want to nerf on it then? As besides raging, you failed to point out what would make it "balanced" in your opinion? Less DPM?, no camo? locked turret at 75 degrees? 47mm gun? what?

 

Sure it's been the padder tank of choice on tier 5 for years, even by alt accounts. As I've seen a fair few alt accounts that only has games in this tank. Only thing I've always found odd about this and the Wolverine that is the only other turreted TD on tier 5. Is that vs other tiers, tier 5 has the turreted TD's as the highest DPM tanks there... until the Chinese tier 5 came that is. On other tiers the rule has always been that turrets = less DPM then most non turreted TD's with the same gun or caliber. Dump that down to 1800 and you might have a starting point. As that's what most tier 5 TD's are on, without a turret.

 

Not my job to balance a tank. thats WG's department. what i say wont matter to them anyways as they dont listen to EU. i dont play T67 at all. cant remember the last game i ever had in it. i just grinded past it and went on to the next tank a long time ago.

 

Something has to go. the speed needs crippling to make it act like a TD. nerf the ROF a good notch and nerf the heck out of the prem round as its stupidly high for a tier 5. slight camo nerf and it would be less broken. also hull traverse/turret could do with nerfing. to be honest if it was me id smash it into the ground, i hated this tank for so many years, it deserves it.

 

 


Edited by Search_Warrant, 26 October 2017 - 11:51 PM.


lord_chipmonk #4 Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:08 AM

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1) I agree that it needs a nerf.

 

2) If you are an experienced player, it isn't enough to make you avoid tier 5. That is overstating it. 

 

3) What to nerf? Give it the "Hellcat" treatment. 



ExclamationMark #5 Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:19 AM

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Never had a problem playing against them. In fact I loved it. Nothing better than killing T67 padding bots thinking they're good at the game, playing against people with 75% crews, no equip etc. while probably having 4+ skill crew and spamming gold. Would go as far as saying, I prefer killing them over BC58s...

Strappster #6 Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:48 AM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 26 October 2017 - 11:19 PM, said:

Never had a problem playing against them. In fact I loved it. Nothing better than killing T67 padding bots thinking they're good at the game, playing against people with 75% crews, no equip etc. while probably having 4+ skill crew and spamming gold. Would go as far as saying, I prefer killing them over BC58s...

 

Agreed - load HE and watch them explode. It's almost as much fun as killing an E 25.

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I dont play tier 5 much, But when i do. i never have a problem dealing with them to be honest. its a very strong tank and if you know how to take advantage of its key weaknesses its easy to win against. Tier 5's i have are not good ones either, Pz IIIK, M4 improved, etc. 

 

But i guess its tier 5 and most games are against inexperienced players



Balc0ra #8 Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:06 AM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 27 October 2017 - 12:19 AM, said:

Never had a problem playing against them. In fact I loved it. Nothing better than killing T67 padding bots thinking they're good at the game, playing against people with 75% crews, no equip etc. while probably having 4+ skill crew and spamming gold. Would go as far as saying, I prefer killing them over BC58s...

 

Never had an issue vs them when your average joe or lower plays it. It's a padding tank of choice indeed. It rewards good play better then any tier 5. But punishes you harder then any tier 5 for your mistakes at the same time. But when I had XVM on, and you saw a blue or purple T67 on the enemy team on campinovka with 3+ crew skills. He is not gonna be spotted as easy until he has 6 kills and 3K damage for you to HE derp him that easy. And most would not pull that of as often in say the Stug or the Archer as easy vs in the T67. Mainly due to the DPM they get in it vs most tier 5's.

_EXODUZ_ #9 Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:11 AM

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I used to hunt T67's in my T-34, felt good, never had any problems, they're usually predictable.

brisha #10 Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:19 AM

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So what about all the other broken tanks, there are so many of them now it's hard to keep track. T5 only has a couple of overpowered tanks, but in most players hands you don't notice it. Have 1 game when a T67 kills you and all hell breaks loose.

FlashBoredom #11 Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:21 AM

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T67 is op lol, then so is craplike the UDES and anything else you cant herpaderp, too many people windowlick their way around the map and don't put thought it, if you see a T67 on the enemy team, force him into a knifefight, simple.

ogremage #12 Posted 27 October 2017 - 03:12 AM

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Shoot HE at it. Wolverine can 1-shot it.

250swb #13 Posted 27 October 2017 - 03:43 AM

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A few people with an obsessional streak can do exceptionally well with the T67, but most can't. And that's the case with many tanks, but it doesn't mean they need nerfing, it means players need to discover how to kill them.

 

I think the OP wants a game where every tank presents a similar challenge to play, and to play against, particularly as it ignores the actual stats show it doesn't have an OP win rate (51% ) anyway, just marginally higher than average. 



blaster1112 #14 Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:32 AM

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It has insane DPM and Mobility and stealth (while staring still). This makes it broken. Compare it to the Chaffee, the T67 has a much stronger gun  (128mm pen vs 96, 700 more DPM, same accuracy) on a platform that is equally fast as the chaffee (tested this with a friend, he had a 72% crew and he was out running my chaffee).

It's stationary max camo is also better as the ELC AMX c'mon how? It's so much bigger.



dennez #15 Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:57 AM

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Just freexp past tier 5 like a big boy.

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View PostFlashBoredom, on 27 October 2017 - 01:21 AM, said:

T67 is op lol, then so is craplike the UDES and anything else you cant herpaderp, too many people windowlick their way around the map and don't put thought it, if you see a T67 on the enemy team, force him into a knifefight, simple.

 

Operative word being ''if''.

 

As someone else pointed out, if its a clubber in the T67 he'd already have shat all over your team by the time you find him.



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I can deal with them but they are still very annoying.

 

Like chipmonk said, give it somewhat a Hellcat treatment. Nerf the reverse speed to garbage, nerf aim time and nerf DPM a bit

 

I like people are like ”just free xp past tier 5”, ”dont play tier 5” or ”derps murder it”. Remember that players without prem account and tanks gotta play tier 5 - 6 for making credits so they gotta deal with these retarded tanks, also new players especially will play tier 5 quite a bit. Lowtier balance is much, much more important than people think (if lowtier balance is awful, it might leave a bad taste and make the new player quit). And as for the derp argument, you first gotta actually spot it, not die and hit it before it runs away. 



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Blindfiring a predictable bush with HE from Swedish T5 TD for 1-shots on them was lovely.
Or from any other T5 derp.

I really liked killing T67 feels as good as killing arty.

 

But it is to good and should be nerfed.


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 27 October 2017 - 07:00 AM.


undutchable80 #19 Posted 27 October 2017 - 07:16 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 27 October 2017 - 06:58 AM, said:

I really liked killing T67 feels as good as killing arty.

 

I play a lot of T5-6 since I suck and am still learning, so I come up against T67's quite often. Dont run XVM so cant say if I encountered more tomato or unicom players in them, but I do enjoy killing with whatever I am driving. :justwait:

 

Begs the question: What is better:

Using arty to kill T67 or

using T67 to kill arty

 

And you cant say both.:trollface:



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View Postundutchable80, on 27 October 2017 - 07:16 AM, said:

 

 

I play a lot of T5-6 since I suck and am still learning, so I come up against T67's quite often. Dont run XVM so cant say if I encountered more tomato or unicom players in them, but I do enjoy killing with whatever I am driving. :justwait:

 

Begs the question: What is better:

Using arty to kill T67 or

using T67 to kill arty

 

And you cant say both.:trollface:

 

I don't play either.






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