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lumberjack500 #1 Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:53 PM

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To be honest I find myself no longer playing the AMX CDC, i don't find 212 pen enough for fighting purely Tier 10's the tank is to large the camo value is to little I mean i have begun to hate this tank recently has anyone else had this feeling or just me. (Tilted me so far going to trade it in for a 112 i think) .

 



Aikl #2 Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:23 PM

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While the 112 is rather good, if not outright broken against lower-tier tanks, it's kind of painful with the matchmaking you get nowadays, and other T8 tanks as a whole. 

 

CDC has been powercrept in just about every way, and it's still a 'hidden stats scam' because it's way slower than what the advertising suggests.


Edited by Aikl, 27 October 2017 - 11:24 PM.


ClassicFrog #3 Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:29 PM

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Yeah, CDC is not fun to play. Especially as a top tier.

 

It was meant to be a tank destroyer. It should be implemented in game as such. Sort of tier 8 Hellcat. But for that it needs DPM, pen and alpha increase. Gimp view range, turret traverse and hit points in return.

 

Or if devs insist on keeping it as a medium it still needs DPM buff as well as massive gun handling buff.



xH4wK #4 Posted 28 October 2017 - 12:33 AM

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CDCs was rather bad when it was released. Now its outright horrid. 

I can forgive everything else on that tank - but that gun handling .... The E-100 have better gun handling.

 

Havent played my CDC in an year or so.



japtank #5 Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:10 AM

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The gun handling could get some love, indeed.

 

What do the Russians say about it? For those who can peek on their forums :)



RiisRiis #6 Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:36 AM

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I actually just trade it in for the Revalorise. Both bad armour but seems to much easier to pump out the damage with 390 despite lower pen.

leggasiini #7 Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

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View Postjaptank, on 28 October 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

What do the Russians say about it? For those who can peek on their forums :)

 

I dont speak cykablyat by myself, but I do sometimes peek russkie forums with google translate as my helper, just to understand their opinions about things. Can check, could be quite interesting. Wouldn't be surprised if they considered it just horrible like we do, because AFAIK they consider Leo 1 (quite similar tank actually) to be even worse than we do.

 

EDIT: so far the first two translations: "what tank I should trade the CDC for..." and "this tank is completely useless"... :hiding:


Edited by leggasiini, 28 October 2017 - 09:41 AM.


ZlatanArKung #8 Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:43 AM

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Problem with CDC is the same problem many many other T8 tanks have.
They are T8 that is the main problem of T8 tanks in current WoT.
If MM got +/-1 and the template system removed, then T8 tanks wouldn't be shafted as much anymore.

ClassicFrog #9 Posted 28 October 2017 - 10:59 AM

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View PostRiisRiis, on 28 October 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

I actually just trade it in for the Revalorise. Both bad armour but seems to much easier to pump out the damage with 390 despite lower pen.

 

They both have bad armour but Rev has 40mm side armour, so it's actually possible to sidescrape (as in, bait a shot, not stand still and slug it out) with it against anything up to 120mm.

 

View PostZlatanArKung, on 28 October 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

Problem with CDC is the same problem many many other T8 tanks have.
They are T8 that is the main problem of T8 tanks in current WoT.
If MM got +/-1 and the template system removed, then T8 tanks wouldn't be shafted as much anymore.

 

To be honest +2MM is CDC's last worry. It is equally bad as other t8 tanks vs t10 tanks. It's biggest problem is when it's top tier and it's counterparts can use their armour to deal with lower tiers with little to no hit points loss, sponging shells for the team, so your team mates don't die too fast. CDC can't do anything like that. It can't trade shots with other t8 tanks and it can't bully low tiers either.


Edited by ClassicFrog, 28 October 2017 - 11:02 AM.


G01ngToxicCommand0 #10 Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:40 AM

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View Postlumberjack500, on 27 October 2017 - 10:53 PM, said:

To be honest I find myself no longer playing the AMX CDC, i don't find 212 pen enough for fighting purely Tier 10's the tank is to large the camo value is to little I mean i have begun to hate this tank recently has anyone else had this feeling or just me. (Tilted me so far going to trade it in for a 112 i think) .

 

 

Bite the bullet and sell it for credits.

gunslingerXXX #11 Posted 28 October 2017 - 12:41 PM

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Played it today for credits, because I got premium day from halloween event.

Ashamed to admit I got first MoE in a game with about 720 dmg and no assist... thats how terrible it is.:teethhappy:

 



Grimdope #12 Posted 28 October 2017 - 02:57 PM

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Sold mine for silver, why they think a paper tank needs awful gun handling I have no idea, meanwhile tanks that have the armour and hp to sit in the open and aim well lets give them god tier gun handling so they can snapshot all day...

gunslingerXXX #13 Posted 28 October 2017 - 03:40 PM

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View PostGrimdope, on 28 October 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

Sold mine for silver, why they think a paper tank needs awful gun handling I have no idea, meanwhile tanks that have the armour and hp to sit in the open and aim well lets give them god tier gun handling so they can snapshot all day...

You forgot to mention they have same or better speed as well. Today I noticed the IS-7 is in fact as fast as the CDC. Also I can name only 1 advantage my CDC has over my BC12T... it has larger healthpool, which is usefull to attract more arty... oh wait :amazed:



Matcorr #14 Posted 28 October 2017 - 03:51 PM

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I'm keeping it in the hopes it will get buffed sometime, along with FCM 50t, no idea why I bought both.

Jam_in_a_Tank #15 Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:25 PM

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It is simple, all i want to see is a 320 dmg gun on CDC , will not be overpowered and it will still need skill to play well in it!

ClassicFrog #16 Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:37 PM

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I'm too lazy to do the maths. What DPM would it get if it got 320 alpha without touching the rate of fire?

Jam_in_a_Tank #17 Posted 28 October 2017 - 10:46 PM

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View PostClassicFrog, on 28 October 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

I'm too lazy to do the maths. What DPM would it get if it got 320 alpha without touching the rate of fire?

 

2742.4 which should then be OP so it is necessary to touch rate of fire if it will stays on Tech Tree, otherwise if is been removed and sell once a year why not ? hihihi

Well apart from all the fun, 320 dmg gun would fit amazingly without making it more powerful since it requires some decent skills to play that tank



RamRaid90 #18 Posted 28 October 2017 - 10:52 PM

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View PostJam_in_a_Tank, on 28 October 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

 

2742.4 which should then be OP so it is necessary to touch rate of fire if it will stays on Tech Tree, otherwise if is been removed and sell once a year why not ? hihihi

Well apart from all the fun, 320 dmg gun would fit amazingly without making it more powerful since it requires some decent skills to play that tank

 

But it has nothing else going for it.

 

Giving it a massive DPM would allow it to at least be somewhat useful...I would not be adverse to the CDC recieving an alpha increase AND reload increase, and I don't even own one anymore. Give it 3k DPM ffs!

 

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leggasiini #19 Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:50 AM

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Even with 320 alpha and current RoF it would still be very frustrating because it still has that combo of massive size + no armor + modules everywhere + terrible bloom. 

 

Quite massive GH buff is the way to go on buffing the tank, and then probably something else if necessary, but there is absolutely no excuse for GH to be that bad.



HeinrichVonDoucheberg #20 Posted 29 October 2017 - 10:27 AM

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I swear Death Star's gun is more accurate than CDC's.





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