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RubberChild #1 Posted 31 October 2017 - 04:34 PM

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Or at least put it in tier V where it belongs?

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because it embodies the counterpart to the defender

Edited by JOHN_HOLLYWOOD, 31 October 2017 - 04:37 PM.


Dr_Oolen #3 Posted 31 October 2017 - 04:42 PM

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Are you completely out of your mind? Which other tank could keep defenders in check then?

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View PostJOHN_HOLLYWOOD, on 31 October 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

because it embodies the counterpart to the defender

 

Exactly. It's like the Spy to the Marshal in Stratego...

TsundereWaffle #5 Posted 31 October 2017 - 04:43 PM

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View PostDr_Oolen, on 31 October 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

Are you completely out of your mind? Which other tank could keep defenders in check then?

 

Perhaps the FV4202, but it can never do the same things the TVP could do...

qpranger #6 Posted 31 October 2017 - 04:43 PM

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Alternatively WG could just buff the Defender.

Browarszky #7 Posted 31 October 2017 - 04:50 PM

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View PostJOHN_HOLLYWOOD, on 31 October 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

because it embodies the counterpart to the defender

 

Yes, it's needed to maintain the current population level of the Defender.

 

View Postqpranger, on 31 October 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Alternatively WG could just buff the Defender.

 

We can only hope their balancing department is currently working on just this thing.

ExclamationMark #8 Posted 31 October 2017 - 04:51 PM

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VTU > PT2

Cobra6 #9 Posted 31 October 2017 - 05:16 PM

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I have a better idea:

 

The top turret of the TVP VTU should:

- Not be randomly heavier than the stock turret (with roughly the same armour layout) which slows it down.

- Not have LESS gun depression than the stock turret. (8 on stock, 6 on top turret (wtf?!?!))

- 10,5cm gun should be made competitive to the 88, so roughly same DPM but slight less gun handling but higher damage per shot.

 

Basically currently unless you are stupid, you play the VTU with the stock turret and the 88mm gun, sure you trade in a bit of DPM but you get better gun depressions and better power to weight.

 

Cobra 6


Edited by Cobra6, 31 October 2017 - 05:24 PM.


Havenless #10 Posted 31 October 2017 - 05:17 PM

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It's not an arty, I don't see a reason to remove it.

RubberChild #11 Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:09 PM

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View PostHavenless, on 31 October 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

It's not an arty, I don't see a reason to remove it.

 

the reason is humanitarian - grinding tvp vtu strongly drives people, who would like to play skoda 50, to suicide. 

Hedgehog1963 #12 Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:28 PM

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I suffered through it so you should too.

lord_chipmonk #13 Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:38 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 31 October 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

Exactly. It's like the Spy to the Marshal in Stratego...

 

Love the reference. :D

Balc0ra #14 Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:44 PM

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Oh it's far from the worst tank at tier 8. Then again as others have mentioned. It's the only tank that can counter the Defender. So we still need it.

RinTin_NL #15 Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:45 PM

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If it's OP I want it... :trollface:

Sargatanas2k2 #16 Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:52 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 31 October 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

I have a better idea:

 

The top turret of the TVP VTU should:

- Not be randomly heavier than the stock turret (with roughly the same armour layout) which slows it down.

- Not have LESS gun depression than the stock turret. (8 on stock, 6 on top turret (wtf?!?!))

- 10,5cm gun should be made competitive to the 88, so roughly same DPM but slight less gun handling but higher damage per shot.

 

Basically currently unless you are stupid, you play the VTU with the stock turret and the 88mm gun, sure you trade in a bit of DPM but you get better gun depressions and better power to weight.

 

Cobra 6

 

That's why I stuck with the stock turret through the grind. A little bit less dpm is worth it for the extra gun depression.

arthurwellsley #17 Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:55 PM

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at 2.26 mins Defender can be beaten by the Czech TVP VTU if driven by Milech.

https://www.facebook...04983756274677/

 

no need to remove or buff the TVP VTU if it is capable of beating the most pwoerful tier VIII tank in the game!


Edited by arthurwellsley, 31 October 2017 - 06:56 PM.


Headless_Rooster #18 Posted 31 October 2017 - 07:44 PM

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only if they use the T54-mod 1 to tow it to the scrapyard

Lentomies1 #19 Posted 31 October 2017 - 07:50 PM

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They could just change it's 10,5 cm vz. 39N ​into an autoloader with stats something like these:

 

​Gun handling:

Accuracy: 0.38

Aimtime: 2.2s

Moving: 0.19

Tank traverse: 0.19

Turret traverse: 0.12

 

Firepower:

Clip size: 3

Intra-clip reload: 2,22s

Reload time: 27s

DMG: 300/300/410

Penetration: 188/235/53

 

Everything else:

​Gun dep/elev: -8/20

Caliber: 105mm

Ammunition: AP/APCR/HE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostRubberChild, on 31 October 2017 - 05:34 PM, said:

Or at least put it in tier V where it belongs?

 

You sir, are you insane? And how on earth can you counter a Defender without a TVP VTU in your team?




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