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DangerMouse #1 Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:38 AM

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OK bit of click bait as this time its Activation.

 

Activision was granted a patent this month for a system it uses to convince people in multiplayer games to purchase items for a game through microtransactions.

"This was an exploratory patent filed in 2015 by an R&D team working independently from our game studios," an Activision spokesperson tells Glixel. "It has not been implemented in-game."

Bungie also confirmed to Glixel that the technology isn't being used in Destiny 2.

Interesting times.

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jack_timber #2 Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:42 AM

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Clicked on link by Eck it's long...  No matter what they employ to 'convince' me I still won't buy anything, unless WG make it P2P!

Junglist_ #3 Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:47 AM

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And even they said the new CoD won't have anything like that it does...

Have you seen the HQ BS that's in the game? Now you are able to open loot crates in front of other players, and not only that you actually receive some sort of bonus the more people see you opening the loot crate! Jealous s factory 101 in already full priced AAA game thank god for tanks.



cragarion #4 Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:59 AM

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View PostDangerMouse, on 05 November 2017 - 10:38 AM, said:

OK bit of click bait as this time its Activation.

 

Activision was granted a patent this month for a system it uses to convince people in multiplayer games to purchase items for a game through microtransactions.

"This was an exploratory patent filed in 2015 by an R&D team working independently from our game studios," an Activision spokesperson tells Glixel. "It has not been implemented in-game."

Bungie also confirmed to Glixel that the technology isn't being used in Destiny 2.

Interesting times.

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What exactly does this have to do with gameplay ?.

DangerMouse #5 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:01 AM

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View Postcragarion, on 05 November 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

 

What exactly does this have to do with gameplay ?.

 

Get out of the wrong side of the bed? You do know if you aren't interested in a topic you can just skip it.

Xaneleon #6 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:05 AM

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If this system would ever apply to WoT, it would mean that because you played a lot of mediums, you'll get matched up more against premium medium tanks.

All in the hopes of getting you to buy a premium tank. That's... an interesting matchmaker for sure.



PointZero #7 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:09 AM

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I'm just going to quote the article made by the Rollingstone since it has the key parts

 

"For example, in one implementation, the system may include a microtransaction engine that arranges matches to influence game-related purchases," according to the patent. "For instance, the microtransaction engine may match a more expert/marquee player with a junior player to encourage the junior player to make game-related purchases of items possessed/used by the marquee player. A junior player may wish to emulate the marquee player by obtaining weapons or other items used by the marquee player."

 

The system can also be much more specific in its analysis of potential customers in a game:

"In a particular example, the junior player may wish to become an expert sniper in a game (e.g., as determined from the player profile)," according to the patent. "The microtransaction engine may match the junior player with a player that is a highly skilled sniper in the game. In this manner, the junior player may be encouraged to make game-related purchases such as a rifle or other item used by the marquee player. "

 

The system can also drop players into matches that will make use of an in-game-related purchase, according to the patent. 

"For example, if the player purchased a particular weapon, the microtransaction engine may match the player in a gameplay session in which the particular weapon is highly effective, giving the player an impression that the particular weapon was a good purchase. This may encourage the player to make future purchases to achieve similar gameplay results."

 



PointZero #8 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:36 AM

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They also recently filed another patent to accompany this one called "The System and method of identifying portions of video game streams for driving microtransactions

 

In some instances, a metadata track may include micro-transaction information that identifies an item available for purchase. In some instances, the item may include a virtual item depicted in a corresponding video game playback, or a real-world item advertised as an overlay over the corresponding video game playback. In some instances, the metadata track may include hotspot information that indicates selectable coordinates on the video game playback corresponding to the item available for sale.
 
For instance, in a shooter game, a location on the display (e.g., pixel position) of a virtual weapon that may be purchased by the viewer for use in the viewer’s gameplay may be encoded in the metadata track. In this instance, during playback, the viewer may be able to select the location (e.g., the “hotspot” ), which causes a purchase transaction to occur. The purchase transaction may cause the virtual item to be made available to the viewer when the viewer plays the video game. Similarly, an advertising item may be selected to cause a purchase transaction for a real-world item to be initiated.
 
In another example, when a VGS includes micro-transaction hotspots, the system may parse the hotspot or pixel position information and provide selectable regions within the user interface that corresponds to a virtual or real item in the video game playback that is available for purchase. Upon receipt of a selection of a hotspot, the system may either automatically cause a purchase of a corresponding item (e.g., by looking up pre-stored financial account information of the viewer or virtual currency account information of the viewer) or cause a transaction interface to be presented to the viewer, which allows the user to input (financial or virtual) account information.
 
In some implementations, the hotspot item may be changed from time to time. For instance, an advertised item may be changed from one product to another product, depending on sponsorships, ad contracts, etc. Additionally or alternatively, the system may change the in-game placement of such ads (and corresponding hotspot).

Edited by PointZero, 05 November 2017 - 11:37 AM.


Homer_J #9 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:40 AM

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View PostPointZero, on 05 November 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

 

"For example, if the player purchased a particular weapon, the microtransaction engine may match the player in a gameplay session in which the particular weapon is highly effective, giving the player an impression that the particular weapon was a good purchase. This may encourage the player to make future purchases to achieve similar gameplay results."

 

You mean like giving people preferential matchmaking for the first few battles in a new tank.:sceptic:



cragarion #10 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:46 AM

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View PostDangerMouse, on 05 November 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

 

Get out of the wrong side of the bed? You do know if you aren't interested in a topic you can just skip it.

 

You do know forums have rules that you are supposed to follow,

like posting in the correct section of the forum,

this is so people do not have to sort through the trash to find relevant stuff to read.



PointZero #11 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:53 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 05 November 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

You mean like giving people preferential matchmaking for the first few battles in a new tank.:sceptic:

 

Except in this case it would mean getting nothing but Malinovka & Prokhorovka/Fiery Salient when you've bought a Premium Light tank ;)

RamRaid90 #12 Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:55 AM

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View PostDangerMouse, on 05 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

 

Get out of the wrong side of the bed? You do know if you aren't interested in a topic you can just skip it.

 

Posting off-topic threads in the gameplay section is against the rules. Replying to them, however, is not.

 

Who has the right of passage here?

 

The next time you run into the back of somebody in your car you could always say "You do know you could have moved out of the way right?"


Edited by RamRaid90, 05 November 2017 - 11:56 AM.


unhappy_bunny #13 Posted 05 November 2017 - 12:04 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 05 November 2017 - 10:59 AM, said:

 

What exactly does this have to do with gameplay ?.

 

View PostDangerMouse, on 05 November 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

 

Get out of the wrong side of the bed? You do know if you aren't interested in a topic you can just skip it.

 

I would ask the same question, but more specifically, what does this have to do with WoT gameplay? Surely this should be in the "off-topic" section.

 

However, on-topic, I guess this shows that WoT is not the only game to have stuff in the patent that is not used in the game, and that has been explained many times in the past. Inventors and designers patent functions that "could" be of future use in order to protect their designs from being used by others.



Unknown_Lifeform #14 Posted 05 November 2017 - 01:10 PM

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Does Activision owning a patent on this provide a barrier to stop others from trying it? If attempting to implement this kind of BS runs the risk of legal action for infringing Activision's intellectual property or having to pay them royalties (reducing the financial incentive to do it) this could actually be a good thing. As long as you don't play Activision games.



DangerMouse #15 Posted 05 November 2017 - 02:44 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 05 November 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

 

You do know forums have rules that you are supposed to follow,

like posting in the correct section of the forum,

this is so people do not have to sort through the trash to find relevant stuff to read.

 

Blah Blah blah,  If have offended the forum police then I apologies, but really you are sounding like a winging little kid.

 

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captainpigg #16 Posted 05 November 2017 - 03:10 PM

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Some videos on this.

 

 



Venatacia #17 Posted 05 November 2017 - 04:08 PM

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There are many tactics WG use to get us to spend money but lets face it, we are all happy to hand over the cash as long as we are enjoying the game. When that enjoyment stops, the cash stops. Mine stopped years ago but I just play this game from time to time hoping it will improve buts that's a long wait and something that will never happen.

 

 



arthurwellsley #18 Posted 05 November 2017 - 04:12 PM

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I would be interested to know how useful this patent would be outside the USA.

 

Because although the word "marquee" has a somewhat perverse meaning in the USA, in the rest of the English speaking world it means a large open tent. I can imagine the consternation of a patent court judge in London, querying the lawyer appearing infront of him on the utility of a large open tent in a financial transaction in an online game.

 

Recent case between Phillips and Nintendo was decided by Mr.Justice Birss = http://www.bailii.or.../2014/1959.html

 

I feel sure he would adjudicate that the word "marquee" meant an open air tent

 


Edited by arthurwellsley, 05 November 2017 - 04:18 PM.


arthurwellsley #19 Posted 05 November 2017 - 04:43 PM

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Second point, for the reasons set out in http://www.bailii.or.../2009/1588.html

 

I do not think that this would prove to be a valid patent.







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