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brumbarr #1 Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:30 PM

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Just another round of incompetent balancing by WG murazor department:

-they nerfed the armour of the AT8? WTF? Srsly? This tank is a pos with large weajspots and you nerf the armour???

-they gave the 32pounder on the AT15  280 alpha but nerfed its ROF so the gun now has less dpm, and way less dpm than a heavy tank with the same gun...

 

What the hell are the smoking up there?

I can only hope this is false info or placeholder stats.

 

https://ritastatusre...ges/#more-50983

 


Edited by brumbarr, 09 November 2017 - 10:06 PM.


Search_Warrant #2 Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:00 PM

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Would id kill you to copy paste the info? some ppl CBA clicking links (like me lol)

 

Changes copy pasted from site.

 

UK:

AT 7

  • Armor reinforced

AT 8

  • Armor reinforced

AT 2

  • Armor reduced

AT 15

  •  Reload OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 5.9 to 6.6 s
  • Penetration of the APDS Mk. 2T OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 246 mm to 252 mm
  • Penetration of the AP Mk. 1 OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 214 mm to 220 mm
  • Damage HE Mk. 1A OQF 32-pdr AT Gun changed from 330 to 370
  •  Damage APDS Mk. 2T OQF 32-pdr AT was changed from 250 to 280
  • Damage AP Mk. 1 OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 250 to 280

Churchill Gun Carrier

  • Relaod OQF 32-pdr AT reload changed from 8.5 to 9.5 s
  • Penetration APDS 2T OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 246 mm to 252 mm
  • Penetration of AP Mk. 1 OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 214 mm to 220 mm
  • Damage of HE Mk. 1A OQF 32-pdr AT was changed from 330 to 370
  • Damage of APDS Mk. 2T OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 250 to 280
  • Damage AP Mk. 1 OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 250 to 280

Tortoise

  • Reload OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 5 to 5.6 s
  • Penetration of APDS Mk. 2T OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 246 mm to 252 mm
  • Penetration of AP Mk. 1 OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 214 mm to 220 mm
  • Damage HE Mk. 1A OQF 32-pdr AT was changed from 330 to 370
  • Damage APDS Mk. 2T OQF 32-pdr AT was changed from 250 to 280
  • Damage AP Mk. 1 OQF 32-pdr AT changed from 250 to 280

Germany

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B

  • Increased load capacity from 80800 kg to 81400 kg

Japan

Type 61

  • Depression angle for 105mm Rifled Gun in turret Type 61 changed from -5 ° to -3 °
  • Depression angle for 105mm Rifled Gun in turret Type 61 (over sides) changed from -5 ° to -4 °

 

List of Tanks Converted to HD

  • T28
  • T25 AT
  • T25/2
  • T-34-2
  • 110
  • WZ-120
  • Somua SAu 40
  • S35 CA
  • VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B
  • StuG III Ausf. B
  • Light Mk. VIC
  • FV207
  • Type 61
  • SU-14-2
  • SТ-I


Etre_ #3 Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:04 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 09 November 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

Just another round of incompetent balancing by WG murazor department:

-they nerfed the armour of the AT8? WTF? Srsly? This tank is a pos with large weajspots and you nerf the armour???

-they gave the 32pounder on the AT15  280 alpha but nerfed its ROF so the gun now has less dpm, and way less dpm than a heavy tank with the same gun...

 

What the hell are the smoking up there?

I can only hope this is false info or placeholder stats.

 

https://ritastatusre...ges/#more-50983

 

 

 

 

Says armor reinforced. Although wont be the first time they are lying by presenting a buff as a nerf and vice versa. CBA to actually check the armor. 



brumbarr #4 Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:06 PM

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View PostEtre_, on 09 November 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

 

 

 

Says armor reinforced. Although wont be the first time they are lying by presenting a buff as a nerf and vice versa. CBA to actually check the armor. 

 

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That makes the balance department go from  0/10 to 0.1/10.



krismorgan #5 Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:14 PM

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its a p o s anyway,selling that mutha when i can be bothered to log in,one of the worst grinds i have had.

Junglist_ #6 Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:35 PM

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Are they really nerfing Type 61 gun depression to -3 or is that with stock turret? I was thinking that tank could use a slight buff lol

ares354 #7 Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:51 PM

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AT 2 get armor nerf > and what this Td have left now ? Crap gun and abysmal mobility, WG balance, best in class. 

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Hopefully by the AT-2 armour nerf, they mean the weakspots get a little armour shaved off rather than large portions of the tank being pennable.

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View Postfishbob101, on 09 November 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

Hopefully by the AT-2 armour nerf, they mean the weakspots get a little armour shaved off rather than large portions of the tank being pennable.

 

TBH the cupola is like 100 thick rounded. it really could do with a nerf.

CaptainThunderWalker #10 Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:07 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 09 November 2017 - 11:05 PM, said:

 

TBH the cupola is like 100 thick rounded. it really could do with a nerf.

 

This is what I hope as well. Just a cupola nerf.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 09 November 2017 - 11:05 PM, said:

 

TBH the cupola is like 100 thick rounded. it really could do with a nerf.

imo its essentially the tier 5 equivalent of the vk100ps cupola.

Just without the other things that make the vk100p broken which is probably how its gone this long without a rebalance.



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View Postfishbob101, on 09 November 2017 - 11:15 PM, said:

imo its essentially the tier 5 equivalent of the vk100ps cupola.

Just without the other things that make the vk100p broken which is probably how its gone this long without a rebalance.

 

You beloved tier 5 French arty is bigger cancer then AT 2....But p2w tanks cant be nerfed...

FluffyRedFox #13 Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:23 PM

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View Postares354, on 09 November 2017 - 11:20 PM, said:

 

You beloved tier 5 French arty is bigger cancer then AT 2....But p2w tanks cant be nerfed...

beloved? I hate the thing, haven't touched it for anything worthwhile in months.

But hey, start bringing up useless shit when y'don't have an argument :harp:


Edited by fishbob101, 09 November 2017 - 11:23 PM.


CaptainThunderWalker #14 Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:24 PM

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I  just inspected the AT2s armor model more thoroughly. It has a lot of plates which are very thick, and I think it should remain that way.

I would actually even buff the non-weakspot weakspots so they cannot be overmatched (looking at the roof of front of the hull), since that weakspot is impossible to aim at with anything but a Strv 74 shooting down at it from a ridgeline, reducing it to pure RNG, making the AT2 even more frustrating to play and only rewarding bad shots really...

The hole in the gunmantlet and especially the cupola should be the prime weakspots, not the roof of the driver's compartment.

 

Like I said in my previous post in this thread, the cupola can do with a nerf.

Account for the weight difference though for shaving off those 25,4mm or even 50,8 mm of armor (which I think is fair) and make the tank a tiny bit faster, though.

 

 

 

 


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View Postfishbob101, on 09 November 2017 - 11:23 PM, said:

beloved? I hate the thing, haven't touched it for anything worthwhile in months.

But hey, start bringing up useless shit when y'don't have an argument :harp:

 

You hate that, and still you use to play this. WHAT AT 2 have if not armor ? You take from this TD only thing that matters. This aint balance, its [edited]. 

Nerf KV 2 then, NERF O-I, NERF Firefly gun, NERF Type 64. KV 2 can one shoot AT 2, but who give a [edited], KV 2 is soviet. 

Edited by ares354, 09 November 2017 - 11:26 PM.


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Boy oh boy. WG at work...

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View Postares354, on 09 November 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

 

You hate that, and still you use to play this. WHAT AT 2 have if not armor ? You take from this TD only thing that matters. This aint balance, its [edited]. 

Nerf KV 2 then, NERF O-I, NERF Firefly gun, NERF Type 64. KV 2 can one shoot AT 2, but who give a [edited], KV 2 is soviet. 

Are you off your meds again?



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View Postfishbob101, on 09 November 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

Are you off your meds again?

 

Are you off mind again ? With top gun AT has German MT tank pen, 110, only if you push 2 key you get pen, 180, still 9 mm better then Archer. 

Near gun you have 100 mm armor, evry tier 5 can pen. This Td goes 20, and wg still nerf. But KV 2 can one shoot tanks, its OK COMRADES. 

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You have to love WG priorities. Lets make essentially meaningless changes to tanks no one plays and ignore the glare coming off the things that really need addressing.

 

Oh boy the Gun Carriage is gonna still be a steaming pile, because the pen and alpha are the tanks real problems.

The VK changes wtf difference does that make?

Type 61 change is to the stock gun so stock grind going to be even more painful.. wut?

Tortoise buffs to stock guns yey erm again wtf why bother?



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View Postares354, on 09 November 2017 - 11:31 PM, said:

 

Are you off mind again ? With top gun AT has German MT tank pen, 110, only if you push 2 key you get pen, 180, still 9 mm better then Archer. 

Near gun you have 100 mm armor, evry tier 5 can pen. This Td goes 20, and wg still nerf. But KV 2 can one shoot tanks, its OK COMRADES. 

Except that mantlet weakspot is stronger than most tier 5 heavies front, and is surrounded by 200mm+ armour, and the cupola is only ~100mm in the centre and then quite quickly goes to 120 then up to 200 because of the rounding.

Not sure why I'm explaining this to you because you're likely to spout some utter bullshit like usual after reading this, but hey I'm allowed to have hope right?


Edited by fishbob101, 09 November 2017 - 11:39 PM.





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