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Slind #1 Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:07 PM

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Ok, 3rd battle today after 4 weeks of absense, I get TKd in my AMX 13 90 for not moving in Karelia. This 49% thing was mad because I was spotting the middle behind a rock, peeking from each sides and there was T49 infront of me. We also lost the hill so there were enemy tanks on my right flank. And there was some japanese super-heavy behind me, in our base. So the best solution for VK100.01 was to TK me. Nice welcoming comittee there, oh how I missed this.

 

Later tonight, Malinovka. Enemy T49 and T-54 camp in the base, because when you get to tier 9, you don't necessarily know that you can move your tank. Or that T-54 could try and take the hill or do something usefull. Or that T49 could do spotting. Or damage. Enemy AMX 13 90, I don't know what it was doing but again, tier 9 and doesn't know how to spot in Malinovka. Or shoot. 0 damage 0 spotting. E75 on the enemy team knew how to move, it drove halfway up the hill, then turned sideway and drove to the middle to die. 2 Jagdtigers didn't camp bush, I don't know what they did but I know they didn't shoot anyone, 0 damage x2, 0 shots 2x. Enemy ST-I also 0 damage, at least he tried to take the hill. So, 7x 0 damage at tier 9, 2x 0 spotting from good scouts at tier 9.

 

So how stupid are these players? More stupid than animals because animals learn. These things don't learn. Idiots not doing anything usefull in the battle is the biggest reason why this game sucks at times. 15-2 overrun because the enemy didn't play. Yes, if you sit in your base with a scout in Malinovka is not playing, you are not helping your team to win by doing that so you are not playing. Positioning your TDs so that you can't shoot even once in the battle is not playing. And these things won't get banned, no, they get 66 XP and sooner or later they will have tier 10 tanks.

 

Is it the internet that makes people stupid? I find it hard to imagine someone going to play football and sitting behind the goal picking his nose for the whole game. But in World of Tanks it's OK, you keep doing that for 10 000 battles and you have yourself a new shiny tier 10 tank. I just don't get it, is the game too hard to learn? Is it too much to expect a player at tier 9 know AMX 13 90 or T49 is a great scout and Malinovka is a great map for scouts? Is the game too difficult and that's why it sucks?



Kartoshkaya #2 Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:09 PM

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I_Gutmensch_Deluxe_I #3 Posted 10 November 2017 - 01:03 AM

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_EXODUZ_ #4 Posted 10 November 2017 - 01:06 AM

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Concentrate on your own game. Screw the rest.

Stohne #5 Posted 10 November 2017 - 01:13 AM

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Judging on behaviour I'd say the majority are bots.

 

I'm personally reaching a point where the frustration is out-weighing the fun.

 

That tells me I am soon done with WOT.

 

And I only started playing not long ago. Relatively.

 

Which is a shame, given I love tank games.

 

Started with BF1942 and had endless hours of fun playing the realism mod Forgotten Hope.



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View PostStohne, on 10 November 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

Judging on behaviour I'd say the majority are bots.

 

I'm personally reaching a point where the frustration is out-weighing the fun.

 

That tells me I am soon done with WOT.

 

And I only started playing not long ago. Relatively.

 

Which is a shame, given I love tank games.

 

Started with BF1942 and had endless hours of fun playing the realism mod Forgotten Hope.

 

Sounds like you want the other to improve instead of getting better yourself.

Kartoshkaya #7 Posted 10 November 2017 - 01:18 AM

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View PostStohne, on 10 November 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

Judging on behaviour I'd say the majority are bots.

 

Actually you'd be surprised, try to talk with those you think are bots after the game. Believe it or not most of them are actually humans.



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just play for fun. if there is no more fun, change the game

Dragonlordcv #9 Posted 10 November 2017 - 07:53 AM

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Find another game or stop Edited about this game and have fun no matter the outcome. Its a team game only in the 1% of your battles.

 

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jabster #10 Posted 10 November 2017 - 08:04 AM

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I can’t imagine why anyone would want to TK the OP, maybe WoT Replays can help?

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 10 November 2017 - 01:06 AM, said:

Concentrate on your own game. Screw the rest.

Funny. If two of three top tiers (E100 Edited ) camp in base on airfield, have fun with your tier 8.

 

More and more we have results like 15-3 / 3-15. Vast influx of useless scum.

 

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View PostSlind, on 09 November 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

Ok, 3rd battle today after 4 weeks of absense, really so long?when im gone im gone for 6 months...  I get TKd in my AMX 13 90 for not moving in Karelia. sad story but tell it wayne This 49% thing was mad because I was spotting the middle behind a rock, peeking from each sides and there was T49 infront of me. We also lost the hill so there were enemy tanks on my right flank. And there was some japanese super-heavy behind me, in our base. So the best solution for VK100.01 was to TK me. Nice welcoming comittee there, oh how I missed this. confused description: enemies? teammembers? did you really spot? let me guess no replays because wg is installed on a 20mb hdd ... 

 

Later tonight, Malinovka. Enemy T49 and T-54 camp in the base, because when you get to tier 9, you don't necessarily know that you can move your tank. Or that T-54 could try and take the hill or do something usefull. Or that T49 could do spotting. Or damage.  Enemy AMX 13 90, I don't know what it was doing but again, tier 9 and doesn't know how to spot in Malinovka. Or shoot. 0 damage 0 spotting. E75 on the enemy team knew how to move, it drove halfway up the hill, then turned sideway and drove to the middle to die. 2 Jagdtigers didn't camp bush, I don't know what they did but I know they didn't shoot anyone, 0 damage x2, 0 shots 2x. Enemy ST-I also 0 damage, at least he tried to take the hill. So, 7x 0 damage at tier 9, 2x 0 spotting from good scouts at tier 9.you are bitching about an enemy being useless ? should have been a easy win than improving your mood...i would have been angry if they were on my team ...

 

So how stupid are these players? More stupid than animals because animals learn. These things don't learn. Idiots not doing anything usefull in the battle is the biggest reason why this game sucks at times. 15-2 overrun because the enemy didn't play. Yes, if you sit in your base with a scout in Malinovka is not playing, you are not helping your team to win by doing that so you are not playing. Positioning your TDs so that you can't shoot even once in the battle is not playing. And these things won't get banned, no, they get 66 XP and sooner or later they will have tier 10 tanks. have fun earning a T10 tank by doing 66xp games you might just need 23k battles

with your rage and mindset it might be better to leave wot behind and look for a differnt game perhaps some hardcore one like EVE where you would be pretty unlikely to meet casual gamers ...

 

Is it the internet that makes people stupid? I find it hard to imagine someone going to play football and sitting behind the goal picking his nose for the whole game. But in World of Tanks it's OK, you keep doing that for 10 000 battles and you have yourself a new shiny tier 10 tank. I just don't get it, is the game too hard to learn? Is it too much to expect a player at tier 9 know AMX 13 90 or T49 is a great scout and Malinovka is a great map for scouts? Is the game too difficult and that's why it sucks?  is it stupid or is it you ?  if you meet with others to play soccer your motivation is rather clear and so is the image/goal of a soccer game  but what is the  goal of wot? is it to farm stats, is it to win? to grow a e-peen? to drive tanks? i even read of a farther driving around the maps to remeber his deceased son  that had played the game, or to distract themselfs from chronical pain...

so basically you get the problem that the game got the goals you set for yourself and that goals might not be the same as yours. also there is no selection, if you would go for your own goal  you might not be allowed to play with your teammates again, would all players act the same way if they knew they wouldnt meet their teammates again ?    

are you sure you arent expecting to much from a game ? it isnt life

thought i would welcome a certain degree of commitment  im not biased enough to expect or demand it



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View Postjabster, on 10 November 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

I can’t imagine why anyone would want to TK the OP, maybe WoT Replays can help?

 

Ha, the chances of seeing this replay are similar to Crystal Palace winning the Premier League this season.

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View PostKozzy, on 10 November 2017 - 09:00 AM, said:

 

Ha, the chances of seeing this replay are similar to Crystal Palace winning the Premier League this season.

 

I’m sure if people search WoT Replays for the OP they’ll find all the explanation that they need.

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View Postjabster, on 10 November 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

I can’t imagine why anyone would want to TK the OP, maybe WoT Replays can help?

 

Tking scouts seems to be the done thing now by the chimps . You passive scout using your close to 490m spotting and get blasted for it for reasons even though you are lighting up 1/2 a team.  You active scout while doing damage because your team is full of cripples , you get blasted because some guy wants you elsewhere while hes redline camping in a type 4 heavy.

I played under 10 battles in the last 3 weeks , what i just wrote happened in 2 of them



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OP you have a malfunction

 

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Phobos4321 #17 Posted 10 November 2017 - 10:35 AM

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well he was epicly spotting 200 damage  while sniping for 2k damage   wouldnt that count as statspadding and fail scouting ?

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View PostPlan_B_from_Outer_Space, on 10 November 2017 - 09:02 AM, said:

Funny. If two of three top tiers (E100 Edited) camp in base on airfield, have fun with your tier 8.

 

More and more we have results like 15-3 / 3-15. Vast influx of useless scum.

 

Airfield? Yea, I will have fun. Himmelsdorf? Unlikely. I'd say 3 out of 10 games are ruined by top tiers, not the end of the world to moan about.

Edited by VMX, 10 November 2017 - 12:09 PM.


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View PostSteel_Patriot, on 10 November 2017 - 09:09 AM, said:

 

Tking scouts seems to be the done thing now by the chimps . You passive scout using your close to 490m spotting and get blasted for it for reasons even though you are lighting up 1/2 a team.  You active scout while doing damage because your team is full of cripples , you get blasted because some guy wants you elsewhere while hes redline camping in a type 4 heavy.

I played under 10 battles in the last 3 weeks , what i just wrote happened in 2 of them

 

As has been eluded to, the answer to OP's question is actually in the replays he has ALREADY uploaded to WoT replays. ;)

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View PostSlind, on 09 November 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

Is it the internet that makes people stupid? I find it hard to imagine someone going to play football and sitting behind the goal picking his nose for the whole game. But in World of Tanks it's OK, you keep doing that for 10 000 battles and you have yourself a new shiny tier 10 tank. I just don't get it, is the game too hard to learn? Is it too much to expect a player at tier 9 know AMX 13 90 or T49 is a great scout and Malinovka is a great map for scouts? Is the game too difficult and that's why it sucks?

 

Maybe some people play 10k battles and learn nothing.

 

Just like some people post the same thread about bad players to the same public forum. And somehow I guess expect the bad players read their post.

 

It's really quite ironic, when you think about it.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 10 November 2017 - 11:36 AM.





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