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9.21 british TDs armor nerfs (AT2) and buffs (for other ATs)


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StrikeFIN #1 Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:51 AM

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https://thearmoredpa...-armor-changes/

 

AT2 nerfed to 0 (203mm > 152mm, no weakspots removed or cupola thicker), other ATs overbuffed (mostly weakspots removed and Tortoise armor buffed to 304mm)

 

152+152 = 304, hmm.

 

I agree AT2 armor had tough armor, but most know cupola already... very rare to see WG overbuff else than soviet tanks. 2017 last update, AT2 nerfed. 2018 last update KV2 nerfed (:D)

 

I had good experience with AT2 few years back, when last time played with it, I respect it and for that reason I won't play 9.21 common test.


Edited by StrikeFIN, 13 November 2017 - 09:03 AM.


jack_timber #2 Posted 13 November 2017 - 09:08 AM

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Shame AT2 has been nerfed something had to make up for very slow speed, often by the time you got to the fight it was over or moved on. Whiles it had a fast RoF its damage was meagre. You could slug it out but no more if you say the armour is now 152mm.

Another fun tank bites the dust, never mind they may bring out a premium AT2a, 17 pounder and 40kph top speed:)



StrikeFIN #3 Posted 13 November 2017 - 09:13 AM

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no, at2a (stock gun from at7 :D)

CaptainThunderWalker #4 Posted 13 November 2017 - 09:20 AM

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Oh god, Wargaming, you morons... High tier gameplay has already been ruined, now working on the mid tiers too? :facepalm:

AT8 can't even be penned with gold ammo at weakspots by same tier medium tanks, that's just crazy.

 

What's next?

 

AMX 40 with 100mm of allround armor?



Dava_117 #5 Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:23 AM

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:facepalm:

Between this and new french HT, WG balance department is completely go crazy.

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leggasiini #6 Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:25 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 13 November 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

:facepalm:

Between this and new french HT, WG balance department is completely go crazy.

:facepalm:

 

French HT is not that bad tbh, its just the utterly dumbass gold on the tier 8, and there is still hope that its placeholder (since the penetration values on many of those guns seem completely off, like the 127 on tier 9).

Dava_117 #7 Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:30 AM

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View Postleggasiini, on 13 November 2017 - 10:25 AM, said:

 

French HT is not that bad tbh, its just the utterly dumbass gold on the tier 8, and there is still hope that its placeholder (since the penetration values on many of those guns seem completely off, like the 127 on tier 9).

 

Those tanks have too much armour for the firepower they got.

And the same thing will happen with the AT line if those changes go live. I can accept the frontal armour buff, but cupolas should stay as weackspot. If this go live, tier 5 HT wouldn't be able to pen AT-8 weackspot! 



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Rest in peace my lovely AT2 :(

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View PostDava_117, on 13 November 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

 

Those tanks have too much armour for the firepower they got.

And the same thing will happen with the AT line if those changes go live. I can accept the frontal armour buff, but cupolas should stay as weackspot. If this go live, tier 5 HT wouldn't be able to pen AT-8 weackspot! 

 

Nah, the armor is probably fine, its bit different to what we have; the tier 10 is almost resistant to even gold, but it has super weak side armor and it does have a cupolas that are actually poorly armored. Nerf the armor and its another tank that is resistant to AP but utterly raped by HEAT spam, and we have more than enough of those. I would rather nerf the gun stats but I dont think its necessary. Both guns have shitty DPM and the 130 has mega awful gold round. Its also titanic and it has rather low HP for tank with super-heavy levels of armor.

 

Its strong but just look at all other tier 10 HTs and its unlikely its going to be strong enough compared those to be too OP, tbh. Even if it is too strong, it isnt still as stupid as quite a few other retarded balance decisions of WG. Its definitely not a bad tenk, it looks strong indeed but I doubt its too good - it has actual downsides. We will see on Thursday with the test server, hard to judge before actually testing.

 

The tier 8 prem round is rly stupid tho


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Dava_117 #10 Posted 13 November 2017 - 11:09 AM

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View Postleggasiini, on 13 November 2017 - 10:51 AM, said:

 

Nah, the armor is probably fine, its bit different to what we have; the tier 10 is almost resistant to even gold, but it has super weak side armor and it does have a cupolas that are actually poorly armored. Nerf the armor and its another tank that is resistant to AP but utterly raped by HEAT spam, and we have more than enough of those. I would rather nerf the gun stats but I dont think its necessary. Both guns have shitty DPM and the 130 has mega awful gold round. Its also titanic and it has rather low HP for tank with super-heavy levels of armor.

 

Its strong but just look at all other tier 10 HTs and its unlikely its going to be strong enough compared those to be too OP, tbh. Even if it is too strong, it isnt still as stupid as quite a few other retarded balance decisions of WG. Its definitely not a bad tenk, it looks strong indeed but I doubt its too good - it has actual downsides. We will see on Thursday with the test server, hard to judge before actually testing.

 

The tier 8 prem round is rly stupid tho

 

Hope you're right. The last thing I want is anotger OP branch.

Uebergewicht #11 Posted 13 November 2017 - 11:41 AM

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Oh man, not even a weak lower plate? I can understand cupolas are annyoing because you cannot hide them and these tanks are also too slow to wiggle... but not even hulldown is required, just drive forward and bounce it all? Thats some bollocks man. Thats the same stupid idea they had with the Object 268/4, only that the ATs have way better guns.

WilhelmII #12 Posted 13 November 2017 - 12:01 PM

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MAKES ME BOTH SICK AND ANGRY as to what they have done to the beloved AT2, (crap, our Clan is even named after it) and now it might has well be totally discontinued as it is fit for nothing other than a Target practice piece of Steel for others to shoot at, nice one WOT you RATS!!!!!!!!

Edited by WilhelmII, 14 November 2017 - 01:48 AM.





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