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Shooter8995 #1 Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:33 PM

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So before the patch I had 94% on moe for third mark and after the patch after one game(1000 xp 2nd class) I dropped down to 89%......5% for 2nd class kinda too much...
I played recently game and got 1.8k base exp ace tanker and got only 0.8% for that.... that seems very strange.....
But when I played with skoda t50 I got 1.4k xp and that brought me 3%.... I know that maybe tank is played too much cuz off increased gun D but come on 0.8% for 1.8k exp...that is just ridiculous...

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View PostShooter8995, on 13 November 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

So before the patch I had 94% on moe for third mark and after the patch after one game(1000 xp 2nd class) I dropped down to 89%......5% for 2nd class kinda too much...
I played recently game and got 1.8k base exp ace tanker and got only 0.8% for that.... that seems very strange.....
But when I played with skoda t50 I got 1.4k xp and that brought me 3%.... I know that maybe tank is played too much cuz off increased gun D but come on 0.8% for 1.8k exp...that is just ridiculous...

 

It was buffed in the last patch - you should have played it immediately after the patch before the expected value went up.

Shooter8995 #3 Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:43 PM

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I know but but difference is kinda big no mater what...What are pro's getting on single game like 2.1k xp that is kinda hard even for pro player to get 

ZlatanArKung #4 Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:46 PM

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View PostShooter8995, on 13 November 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

So before the patch I had 94% on moe for third mark and after the patch after one game(1000 xp 2nd class) I dropped down to 89%......5% for 2nd class kinda too much...
I played recently game and got 1.8k base exp ace tanker and got only 0.8% for that.... that seems very strange.....
But when I played with skoda t50 I got 1.4k xp and that brought me 3%.... I know that maybe tank is played too much cuz off increased gun D but come on 0.8% for 1.8k exp...that is just ridiculous...

Expected values increased alot. Nothing else.

 

If you don't play a tank for a long while and then play it again, you will notice big changes in MoE almost certainly.

 

I 3-marked my IS-6 with a 0 damage game. Took me from like 89% to 95%+



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I thought Moes were damage only, what has XP got to do with it?

(and yes I know you get XP from damage, but that is not the only thing you get XP from, whereas an MoE is based solely on damage+assist.)

 

Have you considered watching your glorious leaders streams, he's been playing in it recently.

 

For the maths, you have to remember it is relative; nXP is not equal to x% of Moe.


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Shooter8995 #6 Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:55 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 13 November 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

I thought Moes were damage only, what has XP got to do with it?

(and yes I know you get XP from damage, but that is not the only thing you get XP from, whereas an MoE is based solely on damage+assist.)

 

Have you considered watching your glorious leaders streams, he's been playing in it recently.

 

For the maths, you have to remember it is relative; nXP is not equal to x% of Moe.

 

I got 3k dmg in that game and 4k assist....I pretty much know how you get moe...that is why I asked

Shooter8995 #7 Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:00 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 13 November 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Expected values increased alot. Nothing else.

 

If you don't play a tank for a long while and then play it again, you will notice big changes in MoE almost certainly.

 

I 3-marked my IS-6 with a 0 damage game. Took me from like 89% to 95%+

 

lol 0 dmg really? hehe any spotting? 

ZlatanArKung #8 Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:15 PM

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View PostShooter8995, on 13 November 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

 

lol 0 dmg really? hehe any spotting? 

No. Don't think so. Or barely any.

I probably have a screenshot of the result screen.

I died after like 30 seconds like a true suicider.



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View PostShooter8995, on 13 November 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

So before the patch I had 94% on moe for third mark and after the patch after one game(1000 xp 2nd class) I dropped down to 89%......5% for 2nd class kinda too much...
I played recently game and got 1.8k base exp ace tanker and got only 0.8% for that.... that seems very strange.....
But when I played with skoda t50 I got 1.4k xp and that brought me 3%.... I know that maybe tank is played too much cuz off increased gun D but come on 0.8% for 1.8k exp...that is just ridiculous...

 

When good players play a tank more, MoE requirements go up. Like when a tank gets buffed, such as Charioteer.

 

When bad players play a tank more, MoE, requirements go down. Like when a tank gets crapped on by meta, like IS-6.


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Shooter8995 #10 Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:19 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 13 November 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

No. Don't think so. Or barely any.

I probably have a screenshot of the result screen.

I died after like 30 seconds like a true suicider.

 

haha

Shooter8995 #11 Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:20 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 November 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

 

When good players play a tank more, MoE requirements go up. Like when a tank gets buffed, such as Charioteer.

 

When bad players play a tank more, MoE, requirements go down. Like when a tank gets crapped on by meta, like IS-6.

 

oh really?

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View PostShooter8995, on 13 November 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

 

I got 3k dmg in that game and 4k assist....I pretty much know how you get moe...that is why I asked

 

Well I assumed you did do some damage, but you keep referring to how much XP you got in a game related to %of MoE

specifcally

1.8K XP = 0.8% MoE

1.4K XP = 3% MoE

Which makes no sense.

 

Anyway 100 game Ema versus Global average, so yes of course it changes both when good players play it well and bad players play it badly, it is calculated relative to everyone else, it is not an absolute measure of damage done.

 

Same with mastery badges, I am a crap player, yet somehow have an Ace on G1R with a 1.4KXP game, largely because no one plays the horrible thing because it sits in a stupid and irrelevant place in the tech tree.

 



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View PostShooter8995, on 13 November 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

 

haha

 

This is how you 3-mark a tank.

CmdRatScabies #14 Posted 13 November 2017 - 06:42 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 13 November 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

This is how you 3-mark a tank.

 

I have loads of games like that & no third mark! Game is rigged!

ZlatanArKung #15 Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:07 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 13 November 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

 

I have loads of games like that & no third mark! Game is rigged!

Indeed it is.



Shooter8995 #16 Posted 13 November 2017 - 09:38 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 13 November 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

This is how you 3-mark a tank.

 

haha





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