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ivanitza #1 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:07 PM

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Can someone explain this situation to me please: I spot enemy tank for first time in round (with obvious game info which tells me that), couple seconds later that same tank gets damaged and I don't get any assistance damage. How? Is that some game "feature".  I don't have replay, but can make one in future if needed

Dava_117 #2 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:09 PM

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May be the tank that shot it was close enought to spot the enemy buy it self.

Pvt_Duffer #3 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:10 PM

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View Postivanitza, on 13 November 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

 I don't have replay, but can make one in future if needed

que?

Just enable replays and post it to wot-replays is not rocket science



AliceUnchained #4 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:15 PM

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11.500 games.... seriously... Obviously whoever shot it, could spot it him/herself...

 

Edit: Provide replay, or go away please.


Edited by AliceUnchained, 13 November 2017 - 07:21 PM.


Pvt_Duffer #5 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:21 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 13 November 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

11.500 games.... seriously...

 

Obviously whoever shot it, could spot it him/herself...

 

LoL: TBF to OP, I think I played 10K games just painting the tech trees before I finally sat down with ELC and tried to figure out just what in the fack was going in.

There wasn't a wiki then though, or streaming.

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AliceUnchained #6 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:33 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 13 November 2017 - 07:21 PM, said:

 

LoL: TBF to OP, I think I played 10K games just painting the tech trees before I finally sat down with ELC and tried to figure out just what in the fack was going in.

There wasn't a wiki then though, or streaming.

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Assisted damage was introduced long after the wiki was created. And I sincerely doubt OP never encountered something like that before, unless we're dealing with a 'new' player.

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View Postivanitza, on 13 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Can someone explain this situation to me please: I spot enemy tank for first time in round (with obvious game info which tells me that), couple seconds later that same tank gets damaged and I don't get any assistance damage. How? Is that some game "feature".  I don't have replay, but can make one in future if needed

 

You don't get assisted damage if the one taking the shot is not relying on you to have the target spotted. Being the first one spotting it is just that, you were the first one spotting it.

RamRaid90 #8 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:41 PM

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cragarion #9 Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:51 PM

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1/ someone else closer also spotted it,

2/ it was within the persons who shot it own view range,

3/ depending how long after you spotted it your spotting was lost and someone else spotted it again,

 

In game go to menu / settings / battle notifications / battle events / and make sure "damage upon your spotting" is checked,

that will give you a message in game when when you are responsible for a vehicle you spotted being damaged.



pecopad #10 Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:12 PM

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Spotting damage is very tricky, sometimes works like it should ,sometimes it does not.

 

Sometime you do the first spot,take cover and get the assisted damage. Sometimes you take cover and don't take the assisted damage, sometimes you don't take cover and don't take assisted damage.

 

Happened to me to be the only one tank on the team spotting a tank, and not taking the spotting damage.

 

Its really hard to tell, but now at least you get the info, so if your are not taking the assisted damage, just change the way you are playing.



RamRaid90 #11 Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:21 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 13 November 2017 - 07:12 PM, said:

 

Happened to me to be the only one tank on the team spotting a tank, and not taking the spotting damage.

 

No, it didn't.



AliceUnchained #12 Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:27 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 13 November 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Spotting damage is very tricky, sometimes works like it should ,sometimes it does not.

 

Sometime you do the first spot,take cover and get the assisted damage. Sometimes you take cover and don't take the assisted damage, sometimes you don't take cover and don't take assisted damage.

 

Happened to me to be the only one tank on the team spotting a tank, and not taking the spotting damage.

 

Its really hard to tell, but now at least you get the info, so if your are not taking the assisted damage, just change the way you are playing.

 

Sheer and utter nonsense. But that's to be expected from you, isn't it?



Havenless #13 Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:28 PM

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Let's not get too rude, the OP is just asking a question without even accusing anyone of using an "assist damage counter hack". But as others have already pointed out, this is a clear case of a teammate shooting the enemy who is spotting him for himself. You only get spotting damage if the players who are shooting at him are too far way to spot him themselves.

Edited by Havenless, 13 November 2017 - 08:29 PM.


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View Postpecopad, on 13 November 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Spotting damage is very tricky, sometimes works like it should ,sometimes it does not.

 

Sometime you do the first spot,take cover and get the assisted damage. Sometimes you take cover and don't take the assisted damage, sometimes you don't take cover and don't take assisted damage.

 

Happened to me to be the only one tank on the team spotting a tank, and not taking the spotting damage.

 

Its really hard to tell, but now at least you get the info, so if your are not taking the assisted damage, just change the way you are playing.

It always works as it should. If you didn't get assist you are not spotting the tank anymore...doesn't matter if it's still spotted on the minimap. 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 13 November 2017 - 08:37 PM.


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What happened to the ''you ask politely we answer in the same manner without bashing'' rule? 

 

If  you spotted an enemy and said enemy drove closer to your teamate within your team mates view range you get no assist. your team mate was actively spotting his own target or someone else did but not you, it usually helps to check in the post game results the assist of your team, so you will know bettter



ivanitza #16 Posted 13 November 2017 - 09:16 PM

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OMG this comments represents typical wot players :(  How difficult is to understand? I spot enemy, (game info told me that instantly, it's not my assumption) he get damaged 2 seconds after that and I don't get any assistance damage. It's ok if I got some part of it regarding how many team mates were spotting at same time, but I still can't understand how can I be first to spot and get 0 assistance. If you don't have anything smart to say - well, you will never have anyway

AliceUnchained #17 Posted 13 November 2017 - 09:20 PM

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View Postivanitza, on 13 November 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

OMG this comments represents typical wot players How difficult is to understand? I spot enemy, (game info told me that instantly, it's not my assumption) he get damaged 2 seconds after that and I don't get any assistance damage. It's ok if I got some part of it regarding how many team mates were spotting at same time, but I still can't understand how can I be first to spot and get 0 assistance. If you don't have anything smart to say - well, you will never have anyway

 

I think that question is better redirected at yourself. You got the initial spot, but then obviously whoever dealt the damage was also able to spot that opponent. Initial spotting does not automatically mean any damage inflicted will be credited as assisted damage for you. It will only be credited as assisted damage when the damage inflicted is done so by someone unable to spot that opponent. It is so very simple. So drop that attitude already, as the only one too dumb to get this seems to be you. 

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View Postivanitza, on 13 November 2017 - 08:16 PM, said:

OMG this comments represents typical wot players :(  How difficult is to understand? I spot enemy, (game info told me that instantly, it's not my assumption) he get damaged 2 seconds after that and I don't get any assistance damage. It's ok if I got some part of it regarding how many team mates were spotting at same time, but I still can't understand how can I be first to spot and get 0 assistance. If you don't have anything smart to say - well, you will never have anyway

 

You get an XP bonus (and possible medal if you spot enough) for first spotting

You get assisted damage *only* if tanks that cannot see the target without your help hit the target.

 If the tank that shot the target can see the target by itself, even if you spotted it first, you get nothing.

They are separate things.



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A replay would make things easier to explain

 



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View Postivanitza, on 13 November 2017 - 08:16 PM, said:

OMG this comments represents typical wot players :(  How difficult is to understand? I spot enemy, (game info told me that instantly, it's not my assumption) he get damaged 2 seconds after that and I don't get any assistance damage. It's ok if I got some part of it regarding how many team mates were spotting at same time, but I still can't understand how can I be first to spot and get 0 assistance. If you don't have anything smart to say - well, you will never have anyway

 

Unfortunately it is YOUR comment which better represents the majority of WoT players.

 

Incapable of understanding simple explanations of the game mechanics.






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