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Private_Pearts #1 Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:34 PM

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Can somebody enlighten me please? I just played my M40/43 Scumbag Propelled Gun. We lost the match. I came second on the team with 3 kills and over 3200 damage. I run a premium account, I didn't shoot gold and I don't run premium consumables. I lost over 8500 credits. I did get slotted though.

 

How does it work?


Edited by Private_Pearts, 14 November 2017 - 12:36 PM.


qpranger #2 Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:36 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 14 November 2017 - 01:34 PM, said:

Can somebody enlighten me please? I just played my M40/43 Scumbag Propelled Gun. We lost the match. I came second on the team with 3 kills and over 3200 damage. I run a premium account, I didn't shoot gold and I don't run premium consumables. I lost over 8500 credits.

 

How does it work?

 

How do all scams work?

Geno1isme #3 Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:44 PM

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How about checking what you earned and what you paid, instead of just posting the net result?

 

So we can only guess:

- You lost, so most likely you got killed. According to vaddict the M40/43 has 4.7k average repair cost at 50% survival rate, so full repairs are probably around 9k

- The (standard) shells of the M40/43 cost 1870 credits. Maximum ammo capacity is 16 shells, so might pay up to ~30k for standard ammunition per battle

- If you hit allies or used rep- or medkits, that's some extra cost as well

 

All in all even without any premium stuff you can have costs of 40k credits or even more if you did any team damage. That's quite a bit you have to earn first to break even.



Enforcer1975 #4 Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:46 PM

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3200 damage sound like a lot of shells have been fired.....

Strappster #5 Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:52 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 14 November 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:

Can somebody enlighten me please? I just played my M40/43 Scumbag Propelled Gun. We lost the match. I came second on the team with 3 kills and over 3200 damage. I run a premium account, I didn't shoot gold and I don't run premium consumables. I lost over 8500 credits. I did get slotted though.

 

How does it work?

 

Replay (or at least the results tabs) needed.

 

I suspect you hit the 2 key by accident at some point and spammed away your gold ammo unintentionally. The reason I suspect this is that I only managed 2,230 damage with no kills in this battle yet took home Cr.27,469 with a premium account. I was running food but bought it during a half-price consumables sale so it doesn't feature in the results.

 

Then there's other examples like this M40/43 battle (random pick, found using the search function) where the chap did 3,864 damage and got 4 kills and still made a profit of Cr.13,786 even with paying some repair costs. There are plenty of other examples of players getting decent credits from battles where they've scored more than 3,500 damage.



cragarion #6 Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:04 PM

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In the old days people used to play tier 5 battles to earn credits to play tier 8+ battles.

LikePike #7 Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:08 PM

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Why you didn't make credits:

1. You don't spot your own targets -> You only get 50% credits for doing damage

2. You properly didn't do much tracking/stun assist -> No 50% credits for assist damage

3. You properly shot lower tier targets -> less credits compared to shooting higher tier targets for the same amount of damage



Kozzy #8 Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:20 PM

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View PostLikePike, on 14 November 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

Why you didn't make credits:

1. You don't spot your own targets -> You only get 50% credits for doing damage

2. You properly didn't do much tracking/stun assist -> No 50% credits for assist damage

3. You properly shot lower tier targets -> less credits compared to shooting higher tier targets for the same amount of damage

 

I believe it's only XP that is reduced for shooting lower tier tanks and not credits.  I could be wrong but this point gets brought up from time to time,

 

I'm guessing:

1. Your team didn't win.

2. You died.

3. You fired a lot of shells for that 3200 dmg.

 

You could, if you wanted to, show us the replay (along with a screenshot of the credit breakdown) and we could give you a more detailed answer but I feel you didn't come here for answers, more likely you came here to vent/rant?


Edited by Kozzy, 14 November 2017 - 01:41 PM.


Pvt_Duffer #9 Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:23 PM

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View PostLikePike, on 14 November 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

Why you didn't make credits:

1. You don't spot your own targets -> You only get 50% credits for doing damage

2. You properly didn't do much tracking/stun assist -> No 50% credits for assist damage

3. You properly shot lower tier targets -> less credits compared to shooting higher tier targets for the same amount of damage

 

probably.

Just sayin.



Balc0ra #10 Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:26 PM

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Arty is not a good class for income. Even less whit those shell costs, as you usually don't get enough damage return pr shot on average to earn on it. That and 99% of the damage you do is on others spotting. So that's half the credits out the window pr damage point already. And no win bonus.

Geno1isme #11 Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:27 PM

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View PostLikePike, on 14 November 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

3. You properly shot lower tier targets -> less credits compared to shooting higher tier targets for the same amount of damage

 

Actually the target is only relevant for XP, not for credits.

 

View PostStrappster, on 14 November 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

I suspect you hit the 2 key by accident at some point and spammed away your gold ammo unintentionally.

 

Don't actually have to hit the 2 key when you just fire enough shells and have premium ammo to start with.

Checked a couple of replays on wotreplays.eu with similar results to the OP, only way people made a loss (with premium account) was when using prem ammo and/or consumables. So you're probably right to assume that he used prem ammo by accident.


Edited by Geno1isme, 14 November 2017 - 01:27 PM.


commer #12 Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:01 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 14 November 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Can somebody enlighten me please? I just played my M40/43 Scumbag Propelled Gun. We lost the match. I came second on the team with 3 kills and over 3200 damage. I run a premium account, I didn't shoot gold and I don't run premium consumables. I lost over 8500 credits. I did get slotted though.

 

How does it work?

 

You play arty = you get punished

vasilinhorulezz #13 Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:09 PM

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New stealth nerf by WG to arty :trollface:. Hooray!!!!!

TheDrownedApe #14 Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:15 PM

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It is difficult the higher you go. Been playing Mauschen ( and couple in challenger) and firing some gold probably 1/3.

 



Yaccay #15 Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:18 PM

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Tier IX and Tier X is designed to lose credit.

Especially if your vehicle is destoryed.



magkiln #16 Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:23 PM

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Nothing surprising about it. Artillery shells are expensive. When you play at tier 8 and above artillery loses money on defeats, even with premium accounts.

Bucifel #17 Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:27 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 14 November 2017 - 01:04 PM, said:

In the old days people used to play tier 5 battles to earn credits to play tier 8+ battles.

 

today you just need to pay "a bit" and make credits on tier 8

:facepalm:


Edited by Bucifel, 14 November 2017 - 04:27 PM.


Private_Pearts #18 Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:14 PM

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View PostKozzy, on 14 November 2017 - 01:20 PM, said:

 

I believe it's only XP that is reduced for shooting lower tier tanks and not credits.  I could be wrong but this point gets brought up from time to time,

 

I'm guessing:

1. Your team didn't win.

2. You died.

3. You fired a lot of shells for that 3200 dmg.

 

You could, if you wanted to, show us the replay (along with a screenshot of the credit breakdown) and we could give you a more detailed answer but I feel you didn't come here for answers, more likely you came here to vent/rant?

 

No buddy not venting or ranting. I just took it for granted since I've been playing arty that if you lose the match then you lose credits. Then my mate asked why I had lost credits on a ptemium account with 3200 damage done and he is a way more experienced player than me so I thought I would put it out there. 

 

I will upload the replay and post the link when I get home later.

 

Thanks for the input anyway.



Penzijon3r_2017 #19 Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:20 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 14 November 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Can somebody enlighten me please? I just played my M40/43 Scumbag Propelled Gun. We lost the match. I came second on the team with 3 kills and over 3200 damage. I run a premium account, I didn't shoot gold and I don't run premium consumables. I lost over 8500 credits. I did get slotted though.

 

How does it work?

 

You made 2000 dmg to your own team. Thats the secret.

japtank #20 Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:35 PM

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This is a lie, arty damage got nerfed.

No arty can deal even close to 2k damage on any map.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, ok, I'm out :teethhappy:






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