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Poll: Make light tanks Scout (172 members have cast votes)

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Make it so light tanks get better and XP and Credits from scouting instead of fighting

  1. yes (107 votes [62.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.21%

  2. no (65 votes [37.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.79%

Nerf the sniping guns on light tanks

  1. yes (29 votes [16.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.86%

  2. no (143 votes [83.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.14%

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cragarion #1 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:02 PM

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Remove sniping guns like the 90mm fitted to the AMX ELC bis and the AMX 13-90,

You added the light tanks to the game and gave them great speed and camo so they can act as scouts,

however most of the players who drive tanks like the above mentioned no longer scout, 

they sit at the back of the map behind all the other tanks and snipe ruining the battle for everyone else,

slow tanks with poor camo have to try and spot instead

and when the enemy have scouts who play properly or have scouts that don't have sniping guns they get up front first and of course the slower tanks trying to spot get slaughtered,

lost count of the number of battle lost because light tanks refuse to scout and just camp and snipe instead.

or instead they drive up with the heavies and meds and try to play like them going toe to toe with better armored and gunned tanks and getting wiped out in seconds,

 

Please make it so light tank drivers have to play their tanks like they were intended to be played as scouts,

increase the benefits gained from assisted damage to make them want to scout again,

nerf the more powerful sniping guns so they are no longer efficient snipers.


Edited by cragarion, 16 November 2017 - 06:12 PM.


The_Georgian_One #2 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:06 PM

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Have you played any lights at all? Since when 0.4 accuracy,low pen and huge pen drop allow for sniping?

K_A #3 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:07 PM

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Before you could even consider this you'd have to scrap 90% of all maps and make new ones where scouting and spotting is actually possible, so until that happens I'm going to use my lights to do damage.

Edited by K_A, 16 November 2017 - 06:07 PM.


HM_Kaiser #4 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:08 PM

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They already have relatively poor precision and penetration drops dramatically with distance, I would not call that a sniping gun ?



cragarion #5 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:11 PM

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 16 November 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

Have you played any lights at all? Since when 0.4 accuracy,low pen and huge pen drop allow for sniping?

 

Yes i have actually. 

if they were no good people would not do it.



Jigabachi #6 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:13 PM

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Yes, let's nerf light tanks even more. Gud idea.
Do you deliberately write that much nonsense lately?

K_A #7 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:15 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 16 November 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

 

Yes i have actually. 

if they were no good people would not do it.

 

You also see derpy top-tier heavies sniping from the redline constantly but you don't see people petitioning to remove IS-7's "sniping gun" from the game because it's not supposed to be a sniper.

Edited by K_A, 16 November 2017 - 06:15 PM.


Strappster #8 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:19 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 16 November 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

if they were no good people would not do it.

 

:D

 

There are plenty of heavy tank "sniper" players are out there looking to prove you wrong.



The_Georgian_One #9 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:30 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 16 November 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

 

Yes i have actually. 

if they were no good people would not do it.

 

Yes, nerf light tanks because people play them like idiots. It's already frustrating trying to hit something with, say, AMX 13 105's gun. Even at 100 meters. Make it more derpy, or even better, remove gun altogether! Why would a like tank should be able to shoot anything?

Edited by The_Georgian_One, 16 November 2017 - 06:30 PM.


cragarion #10 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:36 PM

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 16 November 2017 - 06:30 PM, said:

 

Yes, nerf light tanks because people play them like idiots. It's already frustrating trying to hit something with, say, AMX 13 105's gun. Even at 100 meters. Make it more derpy, or even better, remove gun altogether! Why would a like tank should be able to shoot anything?

 

People don't sit and snipe in that tank so no need to nerf it's gun,

there are certain light tanks and we all know which ones they are that hardly ever scout and just sit and snipe instead.



Shivva #11 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:41 PM

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yay dumbarion is doing his random 'nerf x' threads again... I think he went through every tank the last time he went on a spree. They are garbage threads but always good comedy value at least.

430Umad #12 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:49 PM

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oh look it's the beta bot

WorkingasIntended #13 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:51 PM

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Limit them to ramming? Top idea :facepalm:

Isharial #14 Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:54 PM

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in a way, lights need less firepower and more emphasis on spotting and exploiting weaknesses..

 

in other ways, they cant even do that without support from the team which doesn't exist, and therefore rely on their own guns..


 

mediums outclass them in closer quarter engagements, mostly because of the view range powercreep, and that cant change because of the quality of the current playerbase


 

your idea just breaks them more in a meta where they aren't that great and mediums basically do their job for them, may as well leave lights as they are


 

if anything, nerf med tank view range so meds cant do lights jobs, and lights would actually advance... why would a light advance if a med can see futher than they can? while also having a bigger gun and better armour? (im speaking from a lower tier perspective here, even my no skill Type T-34 has equiv view range to my 2 skill AMX 12t... )


Edited by Isharial, 16 November 2017 - 06:56 PM.


AliceUnchained #15 Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:01 PM

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So, how is scouting in the Type 62 working out for you OP? :P

Cobra6 #16 Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:03 PM

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Could this *really* be "Steve the IS-7 driver" in real life?

 

Glad to meet you sir, good to see you have a very strong opinion on a subject you have no clue about! Let's balance the game for you which is what Wargaming is doing anyway!

 

Light tanks need their guns put to proper levels rather than nerfed even further. There is literally no excuse why T10 lights should have accuracy almost on par with a KV-2 derp gun.

 

ps: OP give me your Type62 as you clearly have no clue how to play it properly and I would put it to much better use.

 

Cobra 6


Edited by Cobra6, 16 November 2017 - 07:05 PM.


cragarion #17 Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:09 PM

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View PostJOHN_HOLLYWOOD, on 16 November 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

oh look it's the beta bot

 

View PostWorkingasIntended, on 16 November 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Limit them to ramming? Top idea :facepalm:

 

Oh look the trolls are out.

 

View PostIsharial, on 16 November 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

in a way, lights need less firepower and more emphasis on spotting and exploiting weaknesses..

 

in other ways, they cant even do that without support from the team which doesn't exist, and therefore rely on their own guns..


 

mediums outclass them in closer quarter engagements, mostly because of the view range powercreep, and that cant change because of the quality of the current playerbase


 

your idea just breaks them more in a meta where they aren't that great and mediums basically do their job for them, may as well leave lights as they are


 

if anything, nerf med tank view range so meds cant do lights jobs, and lights would actually advance... why would a light advance if a med can see futher than they can? while also having a bigger gun and better armour? (im speaking from a lower tier perspective here, even my no skill Type T-34 has equiv view range to my 2 skill AMX 12t... )

 

The view range on all types of tanks need nerfing apart from the light tanks to allow the light tanks to do their jobs properly.

 

View PostAliceUnchained, on 16 November 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

So, how is scouting in the Type 62 working out for you OP? :P

 

What was the first choice on the poll again ?

Ahh yes:

Make it so light tanks get better and XP and Credits from scouting instead of fighting

 

View PostCobra6, on 16 November 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

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Light tanks need their guns put to proper levels rather than nerfed even further. There is literally no excuse why T10 lights should have accuracy almost on par with a KV-2 derp gun.

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Cobra 6

 

 

If light tanks played the role WG made them for they would not need huge accuracy because they are not snipers they are supposed to be scouts, once the enemy is close enough for you to need to shoot at them you don't need the accuracy of a sniper.


Edited by cragarion, 16 November 2017 - 07:22 PM.


Dava_117 #18 Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:16 PM

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Intresting to see the different distribution of answers in the 2 questions. 

Slyspy #19 Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:18 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 16 November 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

 

 

What was the first choice on the poll again ?

Ahh yes:

Make it so light tanks get better and XP and Credits from scouting instead of fighting

 

The issue is of course that your thread title is at odds with your poll. Also the poll is badly worded. 

RamRaid90 #20 Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:19 PM

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View Postcragarion, on 16 November 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

 

there are certain light tanks and we all know which ones they are

 

No we don't. Enlighten everyone.






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