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__se7en__ #1 Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:43 PM

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hello,

right? to weak for now....there is many tds in game and almost everyone shoots gold, is7 receive love, here is wz 111 5a, maus receive love ect

e5 weak turet (hatch), low plate, sides.....receive to hard nerf

e100 worse....turet, just shot gold and easy pen, hudge target, standard low plate, slow...

Gys do you think that is time to change something on e5 and e100?

WG can we hope for something???

my proposition is to change turets at least....we now have paton with strong turet, stronger than e5, e5 weaker then med, got the point...

e100....e100 what to say ... easy meal for the enemy



Celution #2 Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:51 PM

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It aren't the E100 and E5 that need love, it is the powercreeped nonsense needs to be tuned down.

Balc0ra #3 Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:55 PM

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View PostCelution, on 18 November 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

It aren't the E100 and E5 that need love, it is the powercreeped nonsense needs to be tuned down.

 

This. If you buff old tanks, it will just power creep something else that's not been buffed for a long time, and the circle continues until the E100 is bad again. And they add premiums for the new meta that applies to a small % of tanks. Not the old meta that the majority still follows. So then they are even more power creep out and about.

__se7en__ #4 Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:09 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 November 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

 

This. If you buff old tanks, it will just power creep something else that's not been buffed for a long time, and the circle continues until the E100 is bad again. And they add premiums for the new meta that applies to a small % of tanks. Not the old meta that the majority still follows. So then they are even more power creep out and about.

 

it would be nice just co change hatch on E5 like WG did on paton and remodel E100...make it coloser to E75, or replace E100 with new tier X german hevi, like s.conq, Fv215b 183 will be replaced also, pls do something, tnx in advance.


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E75 and e100 has different play style e75 got 250mm turret which is hard to pen with gold coz the front of turret is small and u can hide e75 easily then u get e100 mumbo jumbo with jumbo extra large butter turret .So e100 do need buff!

_Bundesheer_ #6 Posted 19 November 2017 - 11:28 PM

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It is "too" not "to" ffs.

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View Post__se7en__, on 18 November 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

hello,

right? to weak for now....there is many tds in game and almost everyone shoots gold, is7 receive love, here is wz 111 5a, maus receive love ect

e5 weak turet (hatch), low plate, sides.....receive to hard nerf

e100 worse....turet, just shot gold and easy pen, hudge target, standard low plate, slow...

Gys do you think that is time to change something on e5 and e100?

WG can we hope for something???

my proposition is to change turets at least....we now have paton with strong turet, stronger than e5, e5 weaker then med, got the point...

e100....e100 what to say ... easy meal for the enemy

 

no

just gold ammo need a nerf



japtank #8 Posted 20 November 2017 - 12:50 AM

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E100 can bounce premium ammo and you want to buff it?

It's one of the very few tanks that can survive caught in the open, the E5, on the other hand, is such a nice tank to play but a little bit outclassed unfortunately.



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View Postjaptank, on 20 November 2017 - 12:50 AM, said:

E100 can bounce premium ammo and you want to buff it?

It's one of the very few tanks that can survive caught in the open, the E5, on the other hand, is such a nice tank to play but a little bit outclassed unfortunately.

 

E100 needs to shoot sometimes, so cannot stay angled forever. And if he does so turret can be penned easily. Snapshotted even because it's so big. E5 on the other hand, although nerfed, cuppola is still not the easiest to hit (when moved). So if the E5 is doing the snapshotting it armor imo holds up better than E100s. 

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E100 is fine, some HE spamming guns need removing though.

Bennie182 #11 Posted 20 November 2017 - 09:19 AM

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View Post__se7en__, on 18 November 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

hello,

right? to weak for now....there is many tds in game and almost everyone shoots gold, is7 receive love, here is wz 111 5a, maus receive love ect

e5 weak turet (hatch), low plate, sides.....receive to hard nerf

e100 worse....turet, just shot gold and easy pen, hudge target, standard low plate, slow...

Gys do you think that is time to change something on e5 and e100?

WG can we hope for something???

my proposition is to change turets at least....we now have paton with strong turet, stronger than e5, e5 weaker then med, got the point...

e100....e100 what to say ... easy meal for the enemy

no, no, no and no.

E5 does have a bigger cupola than M48, BUT it is 231 effective at least. M48 has only 80mm over there.

View Posthasnainrakha57, on 19 November 2017 - 08:11 PM, said:

E75 and e100 has different play style e75 got 250mm turret which is hard to pen with gold coz the front of turret is small and u can hide e75 easily then u get e100 mumbo jumbo with jumbo extra large butter turret .So e100 do need buff!

About the Germans, E100 can at least angle the turret which will bounce most shots. E75 on the other hand gets too easily penned in the turret front. If you 'angle' your turret by turning away, you will expose the side and get damaged there instead.

 

There should be no buffing around gold ammo, as it will only INcrease the amount of it being used. I use it almost never, except for tanks that are broken, like Type4 and 5. Your proposals only will help burn the game to the ground even faster.



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type 4 and 5 heavy, maybe need a buff on pen on the first gun, decreased ammount of armour on lower plate. e100 is good, almost the same armour like a maus, but a little faster. e75 maybe need some buffs , from USA, the heavys tier 6´8 need another gun, with a little more pen. Increasing the price of premium shell is the only buff needed for e100

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E 100 is fine IMO, maybe they would give it the Maus turret (historical) but that would also mean that the tank would become heavier and bit slower, though it would still be the most mobile one out of the "heaviest" super-heavy trio (Maus, E 100, Type 5). It wouldn't be technically a buff, but that would allow making a tier 9 E 100 with the current turret (but with less armor) and then downtiering anything else in that line.

 

E5 probably needs a rework though, because its outclassed in so many ways now that really the only way to fix it is to rework it. Super Conqueror just laughs at it, and the new Frenchie is also mostly flat out better with the 120 mm, and then we have 5A / 113 that both are just better than it and even some mediums are just better than it. Even if you returned its pre-nerf armor it would still be worse than the Super Conqueror, apart from more troll LFP.  Dunno how though; for example, if you made it like the T32 (aka shittier hull but basically turret armor immune to enemy fire and -10 depression), it still would be outclassed by the Super Conqueror.



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View PostCelution, on 18 November 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

It aren't the E100 and E5 that need love, it is the powercreeped nonsense needs to be tuned down.

 

but strangely is more easy to find e100s - e5 - is7 - wz5a - sconq than your "powercreeped nonsense", whatever it mean

Edited by Thejagdpanther, 20 November 2017 - 12:00 PM.


TankkiPoju #15 Posted 20 November 2017 - 12:06 PM

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The only thing WG needs to reeeeally remove from game is tier 10 HESH and Type 4/5 HE premium ammo.

 

There is no reason premium ammo is just simply superior to regular ammo in every situation, without any drawback besides cost. That's the real, undeniable P2W in this game.

 

And if you want real powercreep, just play a few rounds in the current Caernarvon. That thing is now the best tier 8 tank in the game, because why not.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 20 November 2017 - 12:08 PM.


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Please WG, don't give them love. We all know what you do when you give tanks love....

They become gawd awful OP monsters, that only makes sure other tanks are in need of love again.

 

Maybe you can start giving tanks some minor attention instead.

 

 

Please :girl: 



LR130 #17 Posted 20 November 2017 - 01:33 PM

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E100 is just fine, could maybe need slightly better turret traverse so it´s easier to angle/get back on target between shots.

I´m also wondering if we get to keep E100 in current tech tree line? With all the re-arranging of the tech trees and introduction of new tanks, to make a natural progression up to tier X. I dont see E100 as a natural progression from E75. It´s a completely different play style.

Anyways, i love my E100.



Xerkics #18 Posted 20 November 2017 - 01:53 PM

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E100 is fine the problem is type 4 type 5




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