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labestiarra #1 Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:01 PM

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I'm the only one that feels that this tanks are so unbalanced? I mean they have a dmg of 700 with more armor than the germany supertanks so why you made this [edited]beast have no sense you can't win them with for exemple a Maus as you'll recive a lot of explosive dmg from they and you can't pen them, another thing is that in a lot of cases in tier 8 you can't do anything against this guys just wait to recive 600 dmg and die... I'm a VK100.1 player and I have the couple, a part that can be penetrated and the lower part but this tanks don't have spots like that. Also I didn't found that spots so if they exist tell me plox. :D

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Well they are op tanks i cant pen them easily with tier 10s if it is type 4 and 5

Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:09 PM

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They are broken that's true but they rarely do full damage, it's reduced by half or even worse most of the time.

What's more unbalanced are players who fail their way up the tiers without accumulating knowledge about game mechanics and tactics because if they did they wouldn't have as much problems dealing with those tanks.



labestiarra #4 Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:25 PM

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Okey you can do this because the game was almost over but do it when he's arround the corner and have 3 more tanks to support him it's impossibol I know if you flank him is easy to destroy it

labestiarra #5 Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:30 PM

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And right now as an example I got a fight in a 1 vs 1 against a tier 9 Heavy japanes tank and I was playing with the VK I know tier 8 I got 0 chance like he was hitting me for 600 dmg or more and I can't even pen him in any part I can't flank him because I'm playing wtih a slow tank so what I could do?

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>"I'm the only one that feels that this tanks are so unbalanced?"

>at one point there was more Type 5 whine threads than there were arty whine threads

 

 



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they made the tank how it is because of players like you.

Balc0ra #8 Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:37 PM

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They don't work as often as most think they do. Grind the line to tier X and them come back to me. Then you will be asking why they don't get buffed vs nerfed. Armor hardly works, and their size works more against them vs with them. AP guns are 100% useless. And thus HE derp is the only way to go. They really need to make the AP guns more reliable and usable over the derp tbh. Like the new French HT's. Low alpha, high pen. And one high alpha low pen gun, with better gun handling vs now. And making the AP guns more interesting to use over the gold HE derp would make it less broken as a first step. As atm, there is no real reason to use anything but the derp. And the stock Type 4 grind is by far one of the worst grinds I've had.

 

They are broken indeed. But IMO, that more so on the HE gold ammo more so then other aspects on the tier 9 and X. That should IMO have more pen and less damage vs the normal HE. As in more reliable HE damage, kinda like the 152 derps. Not 1400 damage with the same pen. As that's just stupid.

 

Tier 5 was the only really broken one on that line IMO. But that got slapped hard finally.


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Liviguy #9 Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:38 PM

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Was in a game the other day, bumped into a tier 5 Jap heavy tank, hit me for 610hp, 1 shot kill. 610hp at tier 5, that's  is a joke.

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Okey right now for exemple I got destroyed by a Japanes tier 7 when I was playing again with VK100.1 he was doing me arround 500dmg when I only do 320 and I can't pen him in the frontal armor I mean lower plate all bounce top turret same there's no sense and no way

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View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

Okey right now for exemple I got destroyed by a Japanes tier 7 when I was playing again with VK100.1 he was doing me arround 500dmg when I only do 320 and I can't pen him in the frontal armor I mean lower plate all bounce top turret same there's no sense and no way

 

I think the only way to pen the tier 7 in the front, without gold/premium ammo is to shoot those 2 little gun turrets just below the main turret. But of course that means taking a second or 2 to aim, while he blasts you to pieces.

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View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

Okey you can do this because the game was almost over but do it when he's arround the corner and have 3 more tanks to support him it's impossibol I know if you flank him is easy to destroy it

 

View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

And right now as an example I got a fight in a 1 vs 1 against a tier 9 Heavy japanes tank and I was playing with the VK I know tier 8 I got 0 chance like he was hitting me for 600 dmg or more and I can't even pen him in any part I can't flank him because I'm playing wtih a slow tank so what I could do?

 

Ok then how about this one....jump to 8:30 and watch how i traded 600 damage taken for 1k damage given on that Type 4. I could have done that even without the ST-I come and do the same although his higher profile didn't protect him from the Type's gun. I was in a position where i had the upper hand and the type could have done nothing about me farming him for all his hp on first contact. Look what tank i am driving, what MM i had and where i was fighting with my lower tier tank.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/3947848#stats



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View PostLiviguy, on 19 November 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

Was in a game the other day, bumped into a tier 5 Jap heavy tank, hit me for 610hp, 1 shot kill. 610hp at tier 5, that's  is a joke.

 

Full pens happen. The other day i was charging a from my perspective doomed 13 75 in my AMX 12t...but i didn't see the surprise tomato KV-2 hitting me in the side while driving at full speed. rasha accuracy at it's best...a few weeks earlier i was one shot in my Challenger because i invited a KV-2 too long to shoot me...being oneshot happens rarely to me. I guess you were driving a LT? If he hadn't hit you you wouldn't complain about farming him in return or am i wrong? I farmed a KV-2 in my LTG....i repeated it a few days ago. Happens. Those KV-2 drivers probably didn't open a thread about it because they thought it would be ridicolous.

Edited by Enforcer1975, 19 November 2017 - 08:54 PM.


labestiarra #14 Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:55 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 19 November 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

 

 

Ok then how about this one....jump to 8:30 and watch how i traded 600 damage taken for 1k damage given on that Type 4. I could have done that even without the ST-I come and do the same although his higher profile didn't protect him from the Type's gun. I was in a position where i had the upper hand and the type could have done nothing about me farming him for all his hp on first contact. Look what tank i am driving, what MM i had and where i was fighting with my lower tier tank.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/3947848#stats

I know but you tell me how I do that with my VK100.01 when I can't pen him all tanks must have a chance I don't say I must rekt this tank but at least a weak spot, and WTF this tanks never existed and they made it more heavy than a one that was builded in the reality is like if I make plains of a superheavy tank with 1000 armor and they made it have no sense.



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View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

I know but you tell me how I do that with my VK100.01 when I can't pen him all tanks must have a chance I don't say I must rekt this tank but at least a weak spot, and WTF this tanks never existed and they made it more heavy than a one that was builded in the reality is like if I make plains of a superheavy tank with 1000 armor and they made it have no sense.

 

The VK100.01P shares the same broken concept with the Types just at tier 8. How do you think other players feel when they can't pen you from the front and can't outflank you? Now somebody has a bigger stick than you....deal with it or stop playing broken tanks and start playing proper tanks where you don't only have to press w and lmb to do well.

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 19 November 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

 

The VK100.01P shares the same broken concept with the Types just at tier 8. How do you think other players feel when they can't pen you from the front and can't outflank you? Now somebody has a bigger stick than you....deal with it or stop playing broken tanks and start playing proper tanks where you don't only have to press w and lmb to do well.

 

A lot of tanks can penetrate the comander spot , my lower plate and the sides of my cannon things that you don't have with japanes

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View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 08:20 PM, said:

 

A lot of tanks can penetrate the comander spot , my lower plate and the sides of my cannon things that you don't have with japanes

 

"Cannon" :trollface:

 

And no they can't. The VK.100.01 is WORSE tier for tier than the Type 4 (which bar the gun is a garbage tank) and the Type 5.



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View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 08:01 PM, said:

I'm the only one that feels that this tanks are so unbalanced? I mean they have a dmg of 700 with more armor than the germany supertanks so why you made this [edited]beast have no sense you can't win them with for exemple a Maus as you'll recive a lot of explosive dmg from they and you can't pen them, another thing is that in a lot of cases in tier 8 you can't do anything against this guys just wait to recive 600 dmg and die... I'm a VK100.1 player and I have the couple, a part that can be penetrated and the lower part but this tanks don't have spots like that. Also I didn't found that spots so if they exist tell me plox. :D

the "unbalanced" part comes also from bad playing. get better, as that is the part of it you CAN do something about.

 

besides that, this topic is once again useless, as WG will not read it or do anything with it.



etody77 #19 Posted 20 November 2017 - 10:36 AM

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O-I exp was a little buffed on turret armour, after many nerfs, O-I, O-NI are op when you play at the same tier, i have played Type 4 before armour op, and was a nightware, and type 5, with the worst reload time, aiming accuracy and pen on standard tier 10 tanks...and the slowest tier 10 after maus. and harder to hide than a maus, you are the first target all times, just because japanese HT are too op :)

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View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

I'm the only one that feels that this tanks are so unbalanced?

 

Yes, it's just you, no one else has said a word about them.

 

View Postlabestiarra, on 19 November 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

I'm a VK100.1 player ...

 

Figures.






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