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Update 9.21: British Tank Destroyers

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Community #1 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:07 PM


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The finer points of every TD that's being rebalanced, what's changing, and why.

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SlyMeerkat #2 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:14 PM

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Interesting change

peltikotelo #3 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:24 PM


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I think that I'm gona sell my AT2 because of those weaknesses to it's armor. Bad thing.

Cobra6 #4 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:28 PM

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Lets take a read....


You made 1 of the 2 highlights in the tree, the AT2 useless by nerfing it's armour.

You made the other highlight, the FV183 vanish from the tree completely.


So now all that is left is entirely mediocre static-gun TD line in a game meta where everything that doesn't have a turret is at a severe disadvantage from the start.

Even less incentive to grind this line if you ask me and while the top TD is quite nice iI really wonder if the answer this game needs is even more BS impenetrable armour when weakspots get removed left, right and centre and all other armour is vastly overbuffed simply to encourage more goldspamming.


This whole "press "W" to win match" thing you are going for since 1,5 years when balancing tanks really is not improving WoT as a game at all, first you overbuff the Maus and Type 5, then you release the Defender and now you are releasing a TD which is completely invulnerable when it can hide it's lower plate.


Wait a minute! This is exactly what you were trying to do on the Sandbox server a while ago, the very thing the community very vocally protested against! Making standard ammo penetration worse to artificially increase armour protection (unless you fired HEAT of course) instead now you are just buffing armour all around and not touching ammo but in effect doing the exact thing the community didn't want you to do......What a surprise, it's almost like it will make you more money if people load the go..........oh wait......nevermind.


Cobra 6

Edited by Cobra6, 21 November 2017 - 03:41 PM.

HadurHun #5 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:37 PM

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RIP t37 RIP bulldog now RIP AT2? all these tanks i kept cause they had something special are now unplayable. AT2 is next nerfed to the ground so it will become just another tank you grind through and not a keeper!

guest273 #6 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:38 PM


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About when can we expect the new update? A week? Two?

Insert_Insult #7 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:43 PM

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roflmao, get a great armoured Td, it may be slow but you can use it frontline, what a load of BS, WG should be ashamed of themselves, as Cobra6 stated, this is just to encourage prem ammo spamming.



it's getting so prem ammo is now normal ammo for the high tier players, even when they are playing lower tiers.

etody77 #8 Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:44 PM

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View PostHadurHun, on 21 November 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

RIP t37 RIP bulldog now RIP AT2? all these tanks i kept cause they had something special are now unplayable. AT2 is next nerfed to the ground so it will become just another tank you grind through and not a keeper!


RIP chaffee

That's why NA server die. Nerfing the american tanks, along the time (I remember the times when super pershing was really super, T34 a monster from the front= buffing russians heavy ( buff on gun handling for IS7)  but, who cares? Instead of making a very good tank on every nation, doesnt matter if is a little op or not, all regular tanks will be nerfed and many new op premium tanks will appear. Like the french or chinese, and german TD

Edited by VMX, 23 November 2017 - 01:14 PM.

SyJoMa #9 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:01 PM


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View PostHadurHun, on 21 November 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

RIP t37 RIP bulldog now RIP AT2? all these tanks i kept cause they had something special are now unplayable. AT2 is next nerfed to the ground so it will become just another tank you grind through and not a keeper!

RIP ELC and VK28.01. My keepers (not anymore). VK wasnt even that good, just fun.

R1500X #10 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:07 PM


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i like the change

Bala79 #11 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:09 PM

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AT8, AT7, AT15 and Tortoise were really an unpleasant experience because of all of those weak spots. I agree that AT2 had to be nerfed because it was better armored than the AT8, AT7, AT15 and even Tortoise! I mean when you see any of them, you just shoot that cupola and kill that loader!!! The one thing that i dislike is that WG made us to have a bad experience in order to get to the free DeathStar and the new OP SteelWall on tracks, and only after, you Up them... Oh well thats the price we have to pay i guess.

__Fluffy #12 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:10 PM


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I gather the Badger has the highest DPM in the game now? Yay another tank shooting me for 400 dmg every 5 seconds without being spotted such excite

Yaccay #13 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:27 PM


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Yes, its armor is strong, but AT2 is quite immobile. Meaning it is easy to flank.

Will you increase its mobility for decreased armor?

Flowtec_ #14 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:37 PM


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Changes ok, apart from At2. This thing is so slow, has big weak cupola...really, rest of the armor was ok compensation. And Tortoise? If it retains its cupola weakspot, no armor buffs are valuable.

KodrutZ #15 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:51 PM


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RIP, WoT. Has been dead to me for a few good years, but I returned from time to time to enjoy some tanks that had something special. KV-5? RIP Wespe? RIP Pz38H? RIP T18? RIP French autoloader? RIP and many more. Overall, RIP WoT.

Friderik #16 Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:51 PM


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wolfat #17 Posted 21 November 2017 - 05:04 PM


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This badger is just the 100th boring crap without any speciality.

Edited by wolfat, 21 November 2017 - 05:41 PM.

250swb #18 Posted 21 November 2017 - 05:22 PM

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I pimped the Badger using bonds on the test server and got it to 4600 dpm, and I think other players got it higher, so an insane standard dpm just gets worse. Don't get me wrong, if by the time of the next patch I've decided if the performance on the test server isn't an illusion (as the Foch B and the FV4005 was an illusion) I'll be getting one, but I can't help but think the hidden stats of the Badger are to be found in bonds and WG's desire to get players into Ranked Battles and gold spam.

edgars69 #19 Posted 21 November 2017 - 05:40 PM


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Don't transfer the cammo, inscriptions and emblems from the fv215b (183) and put them on the Badger.  I bought them for the 183!

MrEdweird #20 Posted 21 November 2017 - 05:42 PM

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I cannot undeerstand this at all.

Churchill Gun Carrier has underwhelming penetration?!

It has the best penetration of any tier 6 vehicle in the game! And you are only giving it 6mm more!


It's the lack of mobility, camo and armor that make it bad, not the penetration.

It's just not a tier 6 vehicle. The only reason it exists in this game is because of the 32-pdr, which it never had, it should have the second gun AT MOST and be tier 5 where it might actually bounce a few shells.

Edited by MrEdweird, 21 November 2017 - 05:46 PM.

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