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JuicyProduction #1 Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:12 AM

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Getting boring grinding credits. Feels more like a chore than a game. Is this an attempt at forcing people to spend money on credit packs? Fort Knox not selling too good WG?

 

What happened to your plans about tier X 'hero' tanks. I think After suffering through bottom tier 8 games I lost the will to care about mentally challenged players buying their way to tier X. More and more idiots are present in this game (possibly due to better players leaving, maybe) so it wouldn't matter anyway. You're not gonna revise MM and what it is in it's current state so just be true to yourself WG. Release some tier X prems. That way you can be greedy vodka sponges and people won't complain about having to be bottom tier 90% of their tier 8 prem games (making you use gold more than before making credit grinding less effective which is frustrating after spending a nice £20/£30).

 

I mean don't get me wrong I appreciate the +75% credits in SH's but not all clans and players have access to that and I want to be able to make decent credits in randoms.

 



xtram3x #2 Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:29 AM

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Troll thread?

 

We all know tier 10 premiums are a bad idea.

 

All players and clans have access to credit boosts & SH's. Some just choose not to because they would rather put their effort into whining that it's only for top clans.



Balc0ra #3 Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:33 AM

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Soooo what? 200 000 credits for 3.5K damage? Going by the income rate vs 3K damage on a tier 6 prem vs 3K damage on a tier 8 that is. And what would be a reasonable price for that then? As again going by the price skip between tier 6 and 8. A tier X HT would be €70 at best. Would you be willing to pay that for a "little" extra?  Not that tier X premiums with income is ever a good idea to begin with for many reasons.

 

And was not "hero" tanks only meant to be crew trainers? As WG have never planned to make income "easier" past tier 8. Thus why none of the current tier 9 and X premiums have premium credit income. Only the 1.5x crew bonus.


Edited by Balc0ra, 22 November 2017 - 11:33 AM.


Jigabachi #4 Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:50 AM

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I'd be OK with missions that improve the income/decrease the credit loss of tX tanks a bit, like "spot X tanks, deal X damage and cause X spotting damage in the next three matches to double the income of the next match", but everything else would be highly questionable...

Even higher tiered premtanks would be complete nonsense.


Edited by Jigabachi, 22 November 2017 - 11:51 AM.


tajj7 #5 Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:58 AM

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I'd be fine with tier 9 premiums, that actually had increased credit earning potential over tier 8 premiums.

 

BUT

 

Only if done the same way as the Missouri in WOWs, in that you couldn't buy it with actual money and instead you needed around 750000 - 1 million free XP to unlock it. 

 

 



_RUHL_ #6 Posted 22 November 2017 - 12:02 PM

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Free XP= money(gold conversion). They should just fix the tier 8 mm. Bringing tier 10 prems at the current state of how they make prems will be catastrophic.

RandomBlank #7 Posted 22 November 2017 - 12:22 PM

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Can't find it at the moment, but recently I saw an interesting screenshot. Tanks of some user.

 

About 20 tanks, tier 1 and 2. Between 10 and 80 battles each, WR oscillating around 30-45%. Plus one Tier 8: Defender. ~400 battles, WR 30%.

 

Do you seriously wish for players like these in Tier 10?



jack_timber #8 Posted 22 November 2017 - 12:23 PM

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T10 premium arty, now that would be somewhat different.

I can just picture the specs now....

Min 800 alpha, 10m, no let's say 15, burst radius, min of 20 second stun, 15 second reload, 400m view range, 50 kph top speed, 10 degree gun depression, aim time of 3 seconds.

Well what do you think?

Just had a name for it Bert MK2, bit like original Bert but been fed a large amount of steroids.


Edited by jack_timber, 22 November 2017 - 12:27 PM.


Aikl #9 Posted 22 November 2017 - 12:26 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 22 November 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

I'd be OK with missions that improve the income/decrease the credit loss of tX tanks a bit, like "spot X tanks, deal X damage and cause X spotting damage in the next three matches to double the income of the next match", but everything else would be highly questionable...

Even higher tiered premtanks would be complete nonsense.

 

That's a really handy idea, even if rewarding high performance isn't exactly something I see WG do (and God knows it'd have to be executed carefully to prevent playing specifically to fulfill mission parameters).

Lord_Edge #10 Posted 22 November 2017 - 12:27 PM

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View PostRandomBlank, on 22 November 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

About 20 tanks, tier 1 and 2. Between 10 and 80 battles each, WR oscillating around 30-45%. Plus one Tier 8: Defender. ~400 battles, WR 30%.

 

Do you seriously wish for players like these in Tier 10?

 

Unless they get bored of the game players like that will eventually reach tier 10 anyway.



SlyMeerkat #11 Posted 22 November 2017 - 12:31 PM

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I think that would be a very bad idea to have 10 premiums in store, its bad enough with new people getting tier 8 and not having a clue about the game..... Can you imagine what it would be like at tier 10 as well as the price for them :o

tajj7 #12 Posted 22 November 2017 - 12:36 PM

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View Post_RUHL_, on 22 November 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

Free XP= money(gold conversion). They should just fix the tier 8 mm. Bringing tier 10 prems at the current state of how they make prems will be catastrophic.

 

Free XP and XP generally can only be earned in game, even if you convert it, you still have to earn it through playing the game and 750k XP is more than the XP needed to currently get a tier 9 tank.

 

So even if someone wanted to buy their way to tier 9 (I said tier 9 not 10 btw) they would still need to play the game to earn that XP and would be able to get to that point in game anyway.  

 

So what is the difference.  For an average user, 750k XP is going to be more than 1k games, most players can get to tier 9 with around 1k games.  You'd also need 30k gold which is over £80 so the cost is above what most people would play.

 

 



vixu #13 Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:14 PM

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Yes. What we need is an free,easy, and fast way way to make silver, so that even standard account users could start running purely on gold rounds.

RandomBlank #14 Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:36 PM

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View Postjack_timber, on 22 November 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

T10 premium arty, now that would be somewhat different.

I can just picture the specs now....

Min 800 alpha, 10m, no let's say 15, burst radius, min of 20 second stun, 15 second reload, 400m view range, 50 kph top speed, 10 degree gun depression, aim time of 3 seconds.

Well what do you think?

Just had a name for it Bert MK2, bit like original Bert but been fed a large amount of steroids.

 

Give it 350m shell range and everything is fine.

saso_slo_ms #15 Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:43 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 22 November 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:

I'd be fine with tier 9 premiums, that actually had increased credit earning potential over tier 8 premiums.

 

BUT

 

Only if done the same way as the Missouri in WOWs, in that you couldn't buy it with actual money and instead you needed around 750000 - 1 million free XP to unlock it. 

 

 

 

T9 where prfect for this kind of foched MM what we have now.

 

All T8's premiums should move to T9, and i don't bother if i earn same amount of credits like now, but finnaly i will enjoy to drive premium tanks.



Mr_Deo #16 Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:58 PM

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Why did you rush to tier X and buy so many of them?

You have spent money on premium tanks, rushed to the "I Win" point, and found out that having tier 10 doesn't actually mean you won.

You have two premium tier X's in your garage at the moment, use those ;P...



G01ngToxicCommand0 #17 Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:55 PM

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View PostRandomBlank, on 22 November 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

Can't find it at the moment, but recently I saw an interesting screenshot. Tanks of some user.

 

About 20 tanks, tier 1 and 2. Between 10 and 80 battles each, WR oscillating around 30-45%. Plus one Tier 8: Defender. ~400 battles, WR 30%.

 

Do you seriously wish for players like these in Tier 10?

 

It wont make any difference to the current game experience so Wargaming might as well sell reward/premium tier 10. Also I want the HD Waffentrager Aus Pz E100 the Chinese server has:trollface:

qpranger #18 Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:58 PM

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Tier 10 premiums are viable if sold only to players with decent stats.

If any mongoloid could purchase a tier 10 premium,

this game would die in a matter of weeks.



Balc0ra #19 Posted 22 November 2017 - 04:07 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 22 November 2017 - 11:58 AM, said:

I'd be fine with tier 9 premiums, that actually had increased credit earning potential over tier 8 premiums.

 

BUT

 

Only if done the same way as the Missouri in WOWs, in that you couldn't buy it with actual money and instead you needed around 750000 - 1 million free XP to unlock it. 

 

 

 

I could work with that. That means it's off limits to new players and alt accounts to buy their way to tier 9. Or even tier X in the first battle. And a million free XP is not something a free playing player saves up fast on a new account. Or even one that is willing to pay for it. So even alt accounts needs time to get it.

Enforcer1975 #20 Posted 22 November 2017 - 04:30 PM

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I wouldn't mind some sort of credit bonus for the best players on the losing team but it has to significant like doing damage alone what the last 10 players have combined.




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