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Keyhand #1 Posted 23 November 2017 - 03:53 PM

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Hey Guys!

 

Since the rules and regulations for the next campaign are out a few days now, I wanted to open a thread where maybe even some ppl with connections to WG could hopefully drop by to answer some questions because I find the rules pretty unclear in some points.

In case I am simply too stupid to read correctly, then I offer my apologies already, please feel free to point out my stupidity by explaining to me, I would be grateful.

Do not hesitate to post questions of your own in this thread, makes sense to collect 'em all in one thread.

 

4.3.6. of the Rules and Regulations

 

Please clarify.

-Does this mean you will lock destroyed vehicles in "The tournament of challengers in a regular province of the elite front and the tournament of challengers in a landing auction on the Elite Front ?" (See 7.3 for reference)

-Do vehicles not get locked if you lose against province owners on the elite front?

-Do all vehicles (as in: even surviving tanks) get locked for 72 hours after a victorious battle with a province owner?

-What rules apply for the province owners themselves regarding tanklock after a defense of their province regardless of its outcome?

 

5.4.4.

 

Would any WG official mind giving exact data on how much the cost for the technologies may drop vary?

 

Edit: A link to the rules and regs might be useful


Edited by Keyhand, 23 November 2017 - 05:27 PM.


Kam_tu_Bunny #2 Posted 23 November 2017 - 04:32 PM

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mango91 #3 Posted 23 November 2017 - 04:43 PM

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View PostKeyhand, on 23 November 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

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4.3.6. of the Rules and Regulations

 

Please clarify.

-Does this mean you will lock destroyed vehicles in landing battles on the elite front?

-Do vehicles not get locked if you lose against province owners on the elite front?

-Do all vehicles (as in: even surviving tanks) get locked for 72 hours after a victorious battle with a province owner?

-What rules apply for the province owners themselves regarding tanklock after a defense of their province regardless of its outcome?

 

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woah, an ex -ONE- mate, nice to see you again!

 

my2cents on that point: 

 

Every landing battle (+ in-map fight) has the tank freeze. In the Elite zone, also the application tournament battles have it (and it's always 144h).

Then, if you win, your tank is gonna be frozen for 72h, otherwise 144h. Same for the owner - 72h succesful defense, 144h defeat -

 

I'll follow this topic due to my need of infos, being one of the "analysts" of my clan


Edited by mango91, 23 November 2017 - 04:57 PM.


Keyhand #4 Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:04 PM

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View Postmango91, on 23 November 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

 

woah, an ex -ONE- mate, nice to see you again!

 

my2cents on that point: 

 

Every landing battle (+ in-map fight) has the tank freeze. In the Elite zone, also the application tournament battles have it (and it's always 144h).

Then, if you win, your tank is gonna be frozen for 72h, otherwise 144h. Same for the owner - 72h succesful defense, 144h defeat -

 

Huh? I never was in Owning Noobs Everywhere?

 

Yeah and that is where I am left helpless - the room for interpretation and speculation in this particular rule unfortunately is too big for my taste.

The motivation for the tanklock could be WG wanting to force us to invest in the technology shortening the tanklock and i would understand that, however:

You could not play a full landing (cause thats basically that what it is, in the end) with one continuous team, which would be pretty annoying and also VERY uncomfortable for small clans and/or clans/players with not that many Tier X's, not to mention you will be meeting clans with an ample supply of CW tanks in those tourneys.

 

Spoiler

 



Geno1isme #5 Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:09 PM

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My interpretation would be that vehicles destroyed in any battle on the Elite front get locked for 144h, only exception if you win in a battle against province owner the duration is halfed (to help defending multiple territories in order to get the multi-province FP bonus). Wording could definitely be better though.

 

Mind that landing tournament on the elite front is only 3 rounds, so I wouldn't count on it being excluded. That area is intended for the top clans to battle each other for the 45k multi-province bonus.



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View PostKeyhand, on 23 November 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

Huh? I never was in Owning Noobs Everywhere?

 

Yeah and that is where I am left helpless - the room for interpretation and speculation in this particular rule unfortunately is too big for my taste.

The motivation for the tanklock could be WG wanting to force us to invest in the technology shortening the tanklock and i would understand that, however:

You could not play a full landing (cause thats basically that what it is, in the end) with one continuous team, which would be pretty annoying and also VERY uncomfortable for small clans and/or clans/players with not that many Tier X's, not to mention you will be meeting clans with an ample supply of CW tanks in those tourneys.

 

Spoiler

 

 

The elite front is not meant for small or semi top clans. Its only for the top of europe I would say. Clans like FAME, CSA, MVPS, GO-IN, S1MP. although FAME only has 1 team wich will be annoying if you get ridiculous long tank locks. 

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View PostKam_tu_Bunny, on 23 November 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Nice clan you have, and +1

 

The _meme guy will spare this topic now xD

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View PostKeyhand, on 23 November 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

Hey Guys!

 

Since the rules and regulations for the next campaign are out a few days now, I wanted to open a thread where maybe even some ppl with connections to WG could hopefully drop by to answer some questions because I find the rules pretty unclear in some points.

In case I am simply too stupid to read correctly, then I offer my apologies already, please feel free to point out my stupidity by explaining to me, I would be grateful.

Do not hesitate to post questions of your own in this thread, makes sense to collect 'em all in one thread.

 

4.3.6. of the Rules and Regulations

 

Please clarify.

-Does this mean you will lock destroyed vehicles in "The tournament of challengers in a regular province of the elite front and the tournament of challengers in a landing auction on the Elite Front ?" (See 7.3 for reference)


Yes. Destroyed vehicles will be locked in the mentioned cases

 

-Do vehicles not get locked if you lose against province owners on the elite front?

 

Yes. For 144 hours

 

-Do all vehicles (as in: even surviving tanks) get locked for 72 hours after a victorious battle with a province owner?

 

No. Surviving tanks will not be locked

 

-What rules apply for the province owners themselves regarding tanklock after a defense of their province regardless of its outcome?

 

As far as I remember, for Province owner all destroyed vehicles will be locked for 72 hours (in case of victory) or for 144 hours (in case of defeat). Not a 100% sure on this one.

 

 

5.4.4.

 

Would any WG official mind giving exact data on how much the cost for the technologies may drop vary?

 

Discount may vary from 0% to 5-6% (amount of discount depends on number of Clans that bought it)

 

Edit: A link to the rules and regs might be useful

 



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A WG Staff member answering CW-relared questions in time?

 

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Keyhand #10 Posted 24 November 2017 - 11:23 AM

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Do the bonuses for landings ont the Advanced Front which you receive by capturing provinces stack?

(As in: If you hold one of these for 3 days and have not applied to to the Advanced Front within the first two, do you have three availiable on the third day?)

 

Edit:

Does the technology which increases bonuses from provinces (this bonus will stack up to 2200% if you purchase it all) apply to these Landingbonuses as well?

That would mean capturing one of the Landingbonus-Provinces would give you up to 22 Landings availiable on the Advanced Front.


Edited by Keyhand, 24 November 2017 - 11:27 AM.


Ph3lan #11 Posted 24 November 2017 - 03:04 PM

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View PostKeyhand, on 24 November 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

Do the bonuses for landings ont the Advanced Front which you receive by capturing provinces stack?

(As in: If you hold one of these for 3 days and have not applied to to the Advanced Front within the first two, do you have three availiable on the third day?)

 

No, bonuses received via capturing provinces do not stack. In the described situation you will still have only one available application

 

Edit:

Does the technology which increases bonuses from provinces (this bonus will stack up to 2200% if you purchase it all) apply to these Landingbonuses as well?

That would mean capturing one of the Landingbonus-Provinces would give you up to 22 Landings availiable on the Advanced Front.

 

Yes. You are correct. It will give you up to 22 Landings available one the Advanced Front per day.

 



Haaky #12 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:01 PM

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Thanks for answering this helps a lot :D

this leads to another question:

 

If you have a province which gives you +1 advanced Front Landing token per day and u decide to invest your fame points; when will this token expire?

say: you conquer this province, the next day afternoon u have this token and you decide to invest; will you lose the token immediately(since you lose the province) or will you lose it later and can use it to land on the advanced front ?

 

as well it would be good to know if the +1 advanced/elite Front Landing technology stack and doesn't get removed

say: you get +2 advanced front landing tokens per day and you don't use them for like 3 days, do you have 6 ? And stay they if you invest; means in this example: you invest and after that you have 6 tokens you can use that evening ?

 

edit:

another point: we missed two battles because of the bug and then having all battles at once and got for these 2 battles already the penalty(max 5 landings, -10% Fame Points) (these two are the only penaltys). According to the table in point 9.2. there shouldn't be a penalty for 2 missed and the penalty we got is listed for 4 no shows. Is this a bug or is the table wrong ?

 


Edited by Haaky, 25 November 2017 - 11:57 AM.


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5.4.1. A Technology is purchased once per stage, and is active for the entire duration of the stage.

 

Are the tecnologies purchased actives in next stages or reseteds? thanks.



Keyhand #14 Posted 25 November 2017 - 04:25 AM

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View Postkebote, on 25 November 2017 - 03:08 AM, said:

5.4.1. A Technology is purchased once per stage, and is active for the entire duration of the stage.

 

Are the tecnologies purchased actives in next stages or reseteds? thanks.

 

My guess is that it is only active for the the stage and will be reset afte.

Anyones guess is it however wether you get refunded the research points



WochyCZ #15 Posted 25 November 2017 - 10:47 AM

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What about these compensation for friday blackout on global map? We cant plan our batles,they were late and finaly we cant go on landings on 21:00 cause of it.

So will there be any compensation ?

 



Ember_Prime #16 Posted 25 November 2017 - 02:29 PM

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Wtf My Clan was take off from province and todays landings. Locked all divisions and not in a list.

I cant go back on global map today. WHY???????



FidelisRaven #17 Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:01 AM

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Ok, this is a real issue. My clan just lost a almost 1k fame points because we were reading the rules about missing battles. And the rules say this: 

http://i65.tinypic.com/11772j4.jpg

 

However, rules on the global map page(penalty log) say DIFFERENTLY then in rules and regulations that were published: 
http://i64.tinypic.com/speja8.png

 

and this

http://i68.tinypic.com/10ru613.png

Also, one of those penalties was due to server starting all battles 10 minutes late. So wtf? I read the rules & regulations multiple times, very carefully, saw the table with penalties (1st pic) and figured we can take a bit more risk since first 3 penalties don't punish you! And then things go not the way they were planned, we have too manybattles and take fame point hits?? Only the 3rd penalty was 600+ famepoints, not to mention 50% loss of applications! So yea, wtf is going on?


Edited by FidelisRaven, 26 November 2017 - 12:06 AM.


Keyhand #18 Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:41 AM

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View PostFidelisRaven, on 26 November 2017 - 12:01 AM, said:

Ok, this is a real issue. My clan just lost a almost 1k fame points because we were reading the rules about missing battles. And the rules say this: 

http://i65.tinypic.com/11772j4.jpg

 

However, rules on the global map page(penalty log) say DIFFERENTLY then in rules and regulations that were published: 
http://i64.tinypic.com/speja8.png

 

and this

http://i68.tinypic.com/10ru613.png

Also, one of those penalties was due to server starting all battles 10 minutes late. So wtf? I read the rules & regulations multiple times, very carefully, saw the table with penalties (1st pic) and figured we can take a bit more risk since first 3 penalties don't punish you! And then things go not the way they were planned, we have too manybattles and take fame point hits?? Only the 3rd penalty was 600+ famepoints, not to mention 50% loss of applications! So yea, wtf is going on?

 

The same was true for out clan, we opened support ticket and we were told the issue was forwarded to the CW specialist of the Support center.

 

Also, In the rules it says, that the first stage will take place until the 26th of this month, does that mean there will be CWs tomorrow?



FidelisRaven #19 Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:24 PM

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Since they said there is 1 day break between stages, that has to be 27th. So we're on today. As for support ticket... it's in queue... 

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View PostHaaky, on 24 November 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

Thanks for answering this helps a lot :D

this leads to another question:

 

If you have a province which gives you +1 advanced Front Landing token per day and u decide to invest your fame points; when will this token expire?

say: you conquer this province, the next day afternoon u have this token and you decide to invest; will you lose the token immediately(since you lose the province) or will you lose it later and can use it to land on the advanced front ?

 

as well it would be good to know if the +1 advanced/elite Front Landing technology stack and doesn't get removed

say: you get +2 advanced front landing tokens per day and you don't use them for like 3 days, do you have 6 ? And stay they if you invest; means in this example: you invest and after that you have 6 tokens you can use that evening ?

 

edit:

another point: we missed two battles because of the bug and then having all battles at once and got for these 2 battles already the penalty(max 5 landings, -10% Fame Points) (these two are the only penaltys). According to the table in point 9.2. there shouldn't be a penalty for 2 missed and the penalty we got is listed for 4 no shows. Is this a bug or is the table wrong ?

 

 

Hey!

 

1. Once when you capture a Province with +1 token on it, you may use it immediately. Moreover, while you have a free (not used) token, you cannot make a bid with Fame points on the appropriate Front. You can use the token at any time while you own the Province. Once you lose the Province, your Clan will not get a free token for the next play day, but the System doesn't remove already made Auction applications even if the Clan applied for Auction via token usage.

 

2. All technologies bought in the Laboratory are stacked, but in a different way. If you already have one +1 token for Advanced front technology and then you buy another one, then you will get 2 tokens for the Advanced front, regardless if you use them or not. So there is no reason to not use the available tokens, because it won't give you any advantage for the next day.

 

3. I'm currently looking into this and I'll come back to it.






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